I belive the DRB/Starscan tool can "unlock" the module, if, that is, you can get the PIN number from the donor car. But it might be that that wont work. Worth a shot.
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I used to own one of the first SRT-4s sold, bought it new in Feb 2003, sold it Nov 2006 with 75K and Stage 3. Now I drive a 2006 SRT-8 Charger.
The dealership used the DBRIII tool to get the VIN out of the computer, programed the new skim module, and programed a new key for me, turns out the idiot that sold me the engine sent me the wrong key... Got it started now, just can't seem to change gears now...
Ok I have a question for anyone who has an idea how to fix this we've tried everything we could think of and nothing has worked so far. My car is set up with Stage 2 and just other basic mods when i bought the car it was already like this. My car held 17 psi fine when i bought it than had a boost leak in the hot pipe, which we fixed. Once we did that there was a new problem when my car was getting boost again. Whenever my car tried to push over 13-15 psi it kind of sputters...like its trying to go past it but for some reason it wont and I have no idea why. It has no problems getting up to boost or holding like 10 psi but if i give it full throttle it'll sputter and drop in and out of boost. If anyone has any idea why this is and how to fix it please help me out.
Check your spark plug gap (.045 max, .040-.035 better), plugs, plug wires. Look for carbon tracking (black arc streaks) down the porcelain. If you have carbon tracking, you need to replace the plugs AND wires.
Mopar Speed Control Systems are designed to maximize your driving comfort, especially on long trips. Easy-to-use push-button resume, acceleration, set and coast controls. Identical to O.E. systems.
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82208100AB For 2.0-liter engines, complete kit $235.00 This says for 2.0, but I heard it fits our cars
(1)Servo Connecter is not on vehicles built between 3/20/2003 and 3/12/2004. Check for presence of servo connector before ordering or installing. Do not attempt to install on vehicles built without it.
According to that my car does not have the Servo Connector and I'm not to install that cruise with out it... So this does me no justice... It also doesn't answer the question as to why they didn't put it on the car, let alone even make it an option.
When PVO originally designed the SRT line, they designed it with one purpose in mind, to create an exciting mind-one with machine experience in a car made for the driving enthusiast. They believed that adding cruise control would take away from this "driving experience" and that kind of person that would want to buy these cars would not only enjoy it more, but would rather drive the car themselves, rather then having a computer be in control.
Also, I imagine that adding it would only increase the price as well as problems. Having cruise control as an option on a manual transmission is difficult enough, let alone cruise control on a turboed manual (since the ecu cannot control gear shifts.)
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Why is the turbo in the back of the engine bay? I hate it there...
Dodge actually did this, not only on our SRT but on all of the Neons to improve performance and lower heat, especially around the radiator (and with lower heat comes less problems and better reliabilty.) On most import cars, the exhaust manifold is right in the front, right behind the radiator. Well, all the heat from the exhaust is going to directly heat the air in and around the radiator, causing it to become hotter then it would already be (exhaust manifolds usually run between 500F and possibly even 1000F) and hindering engine performance. Well, on a turboed motor that's mounted like this, the heat would double as turbo housings tend to heat up to between 1500F and 2000F depending on the size of the turbo and how hard you were pushing it. Now, with temperatures like that, your radiator would not only be affected but your intercooler as well. Also, with all the heat starting in the front, it has nowhere to go but back over the motor, making everything under the hood even hotter, where as with our setup, the heat only has to travel down the firewall and out the bottom of the car. So for everyone who bitches about the motor being mounted this way, just think, you'll ALWAYS have the temperature and performance upside when compaired to most and maybe all FWD imports.
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Street racing, why,
For what, you wanna feel like you can fly?
Feel the rush when the pedal hits the floor?
No, you won't feel the rush,
You'll feel nothing, after they pull your body out through the window of your crumpled-up door,
But everyone else feels nothing-but pain and suffering,
And for what, some stupid street race?
You're looking back now, but it's too late,
"No one wins here, ever", you think, staring death straight in the face.
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When PVO originally designed the SRT line, they designed it with one purpose in mind, to create an exciting mind-one with machine experience in a car made for the driving enthusiast. They believed that adding cruise control would take away from this "driving experience" and that kind of person that would want to buy these cars would not only enjoy it more, but would rather drive the car themselves, rather then having a computer be in control.
You can't be serious. You're telling me that the rest of the SRT line doesn't have cruise control? BS! Heck, you can't even get an SRT-8 with a manual transmission, but you're gonna tell me with a straight face that "cruise control would take away from the driving experience"?
The industry has had cruise control on manual trans cars for years. Chrysler included. It is no more difficult to engineer for a manual trans car or an automatic car. The only difference would be the addition of a clutch interrupt switch.
This was a cost-cutting measure, plain and simple. The same reason that the SRT-4 didn't come with the 19mm rear sway bar from the factory. They saved $6 per car doing so.
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2004 Neon SRT-4
S2/E1, Mopar Turbo-Back
Times to come.
1986 Plymouth Horizon "GLMF"
2.2 SOHC 8-Valve, Super-50 trim, Spearco, Menegon head.
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NEW BEST MPH: 127mph
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Why is the turbo in the back of the engine bay? I hate it there...
Dodge actually did this, not only on our SRT but on all of the Neons to improve performance and lower heat, especially around the radiator (and with lower heat comes less problems and better reliabilty.) On most import cars, the exhaust manifold is right in the front, right behind the radiator. Well, all the heat from the exhaust is going to directly heat the air in and around the radiator, causing it to become hotter then it would already be (exhaust manifolds usually run between 500F and possibly even 1000F) and hindering engine performance. Well, on a turboed motor that's mounted like this, the heat would double as turbo housings tend to heat up to between 1500F and 2000F depending on the size of the turbo and how hard you were pushing it. Now, with temperatures like that, your radiator would not only be affected but your intercooler as well. Also, with all the heat starting in the front, it has nowhere to go but back over the motor, making everything under the hood even hotter, where as with our setup, the heat only has to travel down the firewall and out the bottom of the car. So for everyone who bitches about the motor being mounted this way, just think, you'll ALWAYS have the temperature and performance upside when compaired to most and maybe all FWD imports.
But of course, the DCR car uses the 420A Avenger/Eclipse head. Guess where the exhaust is on that? Any takers?
When PVO originally designed the SRT line, they designed it with one purpose in mind, to create an exciting mind-one with machine experience in a car made for the driving enthusiast. They believed that adding cruise control would take away from this "driving experience" and that kind of person that would want to buy these cars would not only enjoy it more, but would rather drive the car themselves, rather then having a computer be in control.
You can't be serious. You're telling me that the rest of the SRT line doesn't have cruise control? BS! Heck, you can't even get an SRT-8 with a manual transmission, but you're gonna tell me with a straight face that "cruise control would take away from the driving experience"?
The industry has had cruise control on manual trans cars for years. Chrysler included. It is no more difficult to engineer for a manual trans car or an automatic car. The only difference would be the addition of a clutch interrupt switch.
This was a cost-cutting measure, plain and simple. The same reason that the SRT-4 didn't come with the 19mm rear sway bar from the factory. They saved $6 per car doing so.
That, and with a normal Neon with cruise, the vacuum actuator is located above the exhaust manifold. Not quite practical with our car..
That, and with a normal Neon with cruise, the vacuum actuator is located above the exhaust manifold. Not quite practical with our car..
Exactly. It would cost money, a minimal amount, to engineer new bracketry and cables to put cruise in the SRT-4. When you consider pretty much everything else in the SRT-4 is a bolt on item borrowed from the PT cruiser or Sebring parts bin, it would have been a considerable amount.
Why is the turbo in the back of the engine bay? I hate it there...
Dodge actually did this, not only on our SRT but on all of the Neons to improve performance and lower heat, especially around the radiator (and with lower heat comes less problems and better reliabilty.) On most import cars, the exhaust manifold is right in the front, right behind the radiator. Well, all the heat from the exhaust is going to directly heat the air in and around the radiator, causing it to become hotter then it would already be (exhaust manifolds usually run at least between 500F and possibly even 1000F) and hindering engine performance. Well, on a turboed motor that's mounted like this, the heat would double as turbo housings tend to heat up to between 1500F and 2000F depending on the size of the turbo and how hard you were pushing it. Now, with temperatures like that, your radiator would not only be affected but your intercooler as well. Also, with all the heat starting in the front, it has nowhere to go but back over the motor, making everything under the hood even hotter, where as with our setup, the heat only has to travel down the firewall and out the bottom of the car. So for everyone who bitches about the motor being mounted this way, just think, you'll ALWAYS have the temperature and performance upside when compaired to most and maybe all FWD imports.
But of course, the DCR car uses the 420A Avenger/Eclipse head. Guess where the exhaust is on that? Any takers?
seems to me i remember the exaust ports on the front side of the head... weird
and it has nothing to do with import or domestic as was implied, as many (if not all) car makers in the last 5 years have switched to rear facing exhaust ports honda, toyota, even the now estranged mitsu... there are many reasons behind it, but under-hood temps are awfully low on the list.
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