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Old 10-08-2007, 09:13 PM   #106 (permalink)
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This looks awesome! I feel great about getting the Stage 3 upgrade kit for my stage 2 w/o toys setup in spring! I will definately be adding this to the list.

I have been following this product for a while. Your research and testing are much appreciated!!
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:18 PM   #107 (permalink)
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We've taken Toys to a new level. We've got features that Mopar doesn't have. I like it so much that I'm going to keep it hooked up, even though I already have the Mopar Toys. I have the Mopar toys controlling the IC sprayer, but the Toybox 2.0 has control over DAB and HOM.
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:29 PM   #108 (permalink)
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I got your PM about the upgrades that will be shipping.

Does it mean I'll unscrew my toybox 1 and apply the wiring to it? or.. splicing is involved?
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:39 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Canuck_2k
I got your PM about the upgrades that will be shipping.

Does it mean I'll unscrew my toybox 1 and apply the wiring to it? or.. splicing is involved?

The wiring harness you have now will be cut and either spliced into a new one or attached to a connector that plugs into the Toybox 2.0.
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I'll talk to Jay and see what he thinks about the pin crimping. If he thinks its easy enough (or you feel comfortable in your ability to crimp and solder some pins and insert them into a connector) then that will be the cleanest way to go. You'll end up with the current wiring you have just get a few inches shorter and a nice clean termination into the new connector on the Toybox 2.0.

Otherwise, we can send out a unit with a short wiring harness that you can splice in and heat shrink / tape.
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I'd be extremely happy if I can extend the toybox by another 12 inches so it'd go right in the cup holder. It sits inside the armest for now...

Im ok w/ soldering, I didnt really have any issues w/ soldering I just hate having to slice and tap into the current wiring cuz im very messy when it comes to that.

Do I need to tap into any existing wiring for the speed sensor??
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Old 10-09-2007, 08:42 PM   #112 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Canuck_2k
I'd be extremely happy if I can extend the toybox by another 12 inches so it'd go right in the cup holder. It sits inside the armest for now...

Im ok w/ soldering, I didnt really have any issues w/ soldering I just hate having to slice and tap into the current wiring cuz im very messy when it comes to that.

Do I need to tap into any existing wiring for the speed sensor??

Ok, for this you'll just cut off the whole Toybox and individually join the wires up with the corresponding wires in the new Toybox harness. We'll send you a few feet of wire so you can do it.

If you want the speed dependent DAB, you'll need to move the white wire from the 5v sensor power to the PCI bus. It is in the same PCM connector. It will involve the same kind of splice you did to connect it the first time.
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:50 PM   #113 (permalink)
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whats max timing S3 w/toybox will go up to?
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You'll get HOM, the same as the Mopar Toys. I believe the max timing for HOM is somewhere around 40-50 degrees. It's a lot of timing advance and it's a lot of fun on 100 octane gas or 93 + W/I....
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holy shnikees....that is alot.......how the hell does that box tell the pCm to do that much timing? I think the most i see now is like a little over 30
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It just activates the programming that already exists for high octane mode. It's the same as flipping the HOM switch on the Mopar toys. We don't control the amount of timing at all.

But, yeah, it's a lot of timing. That's how they can get an extra 40-50 HP.
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i didn't take the time to read all of the thread, but what are the features of the toys box 2.0 vs the 1? thanks.
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bah

too many bills to pay..

i feel i ll miss out on the intro
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Quote: Originally Posted by Canuck_2k
bah

too many bills to pay..

i feel i ll miss out on the intro

Don't worry about it. We've got 100 of them and 200 more ready to be made. We'll have them for a while.
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Quote: Originally Posted by foxracing12002
i didn't take the time to read all of the thread, but what are the features of the toys box 2.0 vs the 1? thanks.

^^^ did you miss my question?
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