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Old 05-26-2007, 03:58 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by turbojack
Does this work with Nemo's clutch pivot?
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it will work if its on there but it has no bearing on our setup
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Old 05-26-2007, 04:00 PM   #62 (permalink)
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i removed that clutch pivot piece as it didn't let me adj. the clutch pedal travel far enough to engage/disengage the clutch enough and i grinded every shift when shifting slightly faster than normal....I removed it and went back to the stock piece. I don't know why I was having so many problems w/it as I followed the directions and tried to modify it to allow more travel...sorry to thread hi-jack
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Quote: Originally Posted by malokite
sounds good I hope you guys come out with a basic version of it I am not complaining about the price I am well cheap I will admit it just cant afford ATM but its on my wish list at the very top too!!!!!!!

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Old 05-27-2007, 07:38 PM   #64 (permalink)
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payment sent via paypal...what # am I and if you guys decide to lower the price and/or come out w/a "lite" version will I be eligible for a credit?
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Yes. We would definitely offer you a credit. We did that for the code scrubber.
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so how many cars have you been able to test on the track and see how much time it has saved. this is just curiosity here.
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Quote: Originally Posted by never2muchboost
we are going to take into consideration leaving out some options and make a base model for the srt4. to shine a little light on the subject in the past year i have rebuilt about 10 t-850 trannys and replaced about a half dozen shift forks and countless number of shifter assembly pins.the average cost of rebuilding a trans can range from 1k to about 1600..by using a wot box your chances of missing a wot shift are significantly reduced.

using electronic devices to control ignition at the shift point have been a trade secret for years and in most cases require expensive peripherals.i have seen guys spend thousands of dollars to pick up a few tenths.

the whole purpose of the design and production of the wot box is to offer racers the ability to go faster and stay in boost.we are not saying that every neon in existence should have one either.if you dont race your car often then chances are that you really dont need it but if you are serious about your e.t. then this is for you.

im sure that most big turbo neons will all agree that this will be an integral part of their setup.the ability to stay in boost and bang through gears to most is priceless

so then you would say that this will definatly help reduce the amount of broken shift forks that pop up during WOT shifting
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since it is in MS I would assume that if you set it up for the max time and shift faster than that, it will not let enough fule through to end up having an anti-lag effect like to much gas getting to the turbo and heating it up to the point of dmg right?
I am trying to think of questions to ask that might come up latter to save yall time :-D
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Humm.. I just need to fix my clutch first...
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Quote: Originally Posted by Caric
so how many cars have you been able to test on the track and see how much time it has saved. this is just curiosity here.

We currently have protos on a stock turbo SRT and an EVO. The evo had a bad day at the track last week, so we don't have any numbers from it. We've got two more units going onto some big turbo cars, so more numbers will be posted soon.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Caric
since it is in MS I would assume that if you set it up for the max time and shift faster than that, it will not let enough fule through to end up having an anti-lag effect like to much gas getting to the turbo and heating it up to the point of dmg right?
I am trying to think of questions to ask that might come up latter to save yall time :-D

In MS?

I think the Windows software will be very helpful with setting up the exact right cut time for your shift speed. Just set it at some default value and then do a few WOT shifts. The windows software will tell you how fast your previous WOT shifts were.
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have you had a chance to test this on a stage 3 car yet
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Quote: Originally Posted by phrozen
Quote: Originally Posted by Caric
since it is in MS I would assume that if you set it up for the max time and shift faster than that, it will not let enough fule through to end up having an anti-lag effect like to much gas getting to the turbo and heating it up to the point of dmg right?
I am trying to think of questions to ask that might come up latter to save yall time :-D

In MS?

I think the Windows software will be very helpful with setting up the exact right cut time for your shift speed. Just set it at some default value and then do a few WOT shifts. The windows software will tell you how fast your previous WOT shifts were.


im pretty sure he was refferring to milliseconds.
no it wont have the same result as antilag.were not throwing any extra fuel at the turbine other than the unburnt fuel charge.the other difference is the throttle plate remains open and air is still moving through the head.i havent tested the difference in egt's but i would bank on the change is irrellevant and we are not fixing timing either.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Caric
Quote: Originally Posted by never2muchboost
we are going to take into consideration leaving out some options and make a base model for the srt4. to shine a little light on the subject in the past year i have rebuilt about 10 t-850 trannys and replaced about a half dozen shift forks and countless number of shifter assembly pins.the average cost of rebuilding a trans can range from 1k to about 1600..by using a wot box your chances of missing a wot shift are significantly reduced.

using electronic devices to control ignition at the shift point have been a trade secret for years and in most cases require expensive peripherals.i have seen guys spend thousands of dollars to pick up a few tenths.

the whole purpose of the design and production of the wot box is to offer racers the ability to go faster and stay in boost.we are not saying that every neon in existence should have one either.if you dont race your car often then chances are that you really dont need it but if you are serious about your e.t. then this is for you.

im sure that most big turbo neons will all agree that this will be an integral part of their setup.the ability to stay in boost and bang through gears to most is priceless

so then you would say that this will definatly help reduce the amount of broken shift forks that pop up during WOT shifting

absolutely!! not only that but when you miss there is a ton of force put on the snap ring that holds the 3/4 synch.if that snap ring breaks in most cases it cracks the caged needle bearing that supports 4th gear which ultimately results in the bearing needles shifting sideways and locking the gear up.most times it will lock up in 3rd gear and if you try to apply 3rd and 4th gear ratios through a single shaft absolute destruction will follow.the shift assembly does not have positive lockouts so you can over extend it easily by hitting it like it was your enemy.

in short the gearbox feels like butter so there is no need to have to tense up and throw a shift like a cage fighter,you can remain relaxed and concentrate on your run and let the car do the work for you
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Quote: Originally Posted by boostjunky
have you had a chance to test this on a stage 3 car yet

eventually we will have it on all kinds of makes and models with an endless combination of setups.it will work great on a s3 setup.the stock turbo srt has been running it for about a month and he absolutely loves it!

we dont have track results yet on the evo but i can tell you this much...on the street, the car never comes out of boost and it has a 60-1 on it.
this week we will be testing it on a big turbo srt and a twin turbo srt
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