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Old 07-29-2009, 07:10 AM   #556 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by allaboutboost View Post
I just happen to check the forums and lookey what I found.. I assume this is just a screen shot of what the newer software will look like? Spring pressure huh? When will we be able to download the finished version? Looks good though..

No, that's it. You are running it.

It's not final, because there is a lot of stuff that needs to be enabled in the windows software, but the general control is there.

Quick tuning guide:

- Setup your MAP sensor type. For now, the TIP sensor must be of the same type
- Set your overboost pressure (max boost allowed)
- Set your gear targets
- Start control (PSI) - The pressure at which the boost control starts. Set this below your spring pressure. 1 psi is probably good for this. Set it higher to try and reduce PTB. Set it lower if you want to build boost faster.
- Spring pressure (PSI) - This is your spring pressure, i.e. the pressure your car makes on spring control alone. If you don't know this for sure, you can take a guess, because it will be learned for you. But, AIM HIGH. Higher spring pressure = lower boost, lower spring pressure = higher boost. If you are way off on the boost, adjust this accordingly until the boost is close.
- Learning range (psi) - When your boost is within this number of psi of the target pressure, the learning is enabled. This will make small adjustments to the boost and spring pressure to learn and stabilize the boost. Increase this range to allow more learning over a wider range, decrease this range to decrease overshoot. 3 psi is probably a good value here. Maybe 5 psi at most.

- Ki - Gain. This controls how fast the boost responds to changes. It doesn't change the spool rate much, but it controls the boost adjustment that prevents the boost from falling off at redline, for example. It also controls how fast the spring pressure is learned. LARGER numbers are LOWER gain. SMALLER numbers are HIGHER gain. Decrease this number if your boost isn't responding fast enough or if it is failing off at redline. Increase this number if the boost starts to oscillate.
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Old 07-29-2009, 07:50 AM   #557 (permalink)
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Q?

What line has to go to the tip sensor?
I'm running solenoid less right now. No vac lines, no nothing.
Where do I need to splice the Tip sensor into???
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Sorry, our guy who did the awesome vacuum diagrams is away this week. I'll have him make new diagrams when he gets back. For now I'll whip up a quick diagram. brb.
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Does this make it as clear as mud?

Stock vacuum routing:
http://www.npcompleteperformance.com...um_routing.jpg

New vacuum routing:
http://www.npcompleteperformance.com...um_diagram.pdf

External gate guys, you've got a different story.... more on that later.
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You may be able to run the line directly from the TIP sensor to the WGA, but it might trip a TIP sensor code. I left mine running through the TIP solenoid so that the PCM can still measure atmospheric pressure when it wants to. I'm not sure if it is really used in the fueling calculation or just in the boost control, but it is probably a good idea to keep it around.
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Made a new thread here to summarize all the stuff for the new software.

http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f245...ftware-525964/
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So wiring in a stock tip or map will work if I'm running an aem 3.5 bar map?
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Quote: Originally Posted by phrozen View Post

Quick tuning guide:

- Setup your MAP sensor type. For now, the TIP sensor must be of the same type

looks like you need to have the same bar sensor for both map and tip...that'll get changed in later software most likely.
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Quote: Originally Posted by ToMuchBoost View Post
So wiring in a stock tip or map will work if I'm running an aem 3.5 bar map?

That will work for sure in the next release. I need to add the multiply by factor to scale for a different sensor.

Oh, I guess I need to add the AEM 3.5 bar sensor as well. I forgot about that one. Do you know where there is calibration data for that sensor and the AEM 5 bar?
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I have a 3 bar map do I have to get 3 bar tip?? I'm still running stock ecu and don't want to get and overboost code
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Quote: Originally Posted by Turbolag87 View Post
I have a 3 bar map do I have to get 3 bar tip?? I'm still running stock ecu and don't want to get and overboost code

No, you shouldn't need a 3 bar TIP. The pressure on the TIP won't go that high.
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I cant seem to get my computer to detect the boxes.. any tricks?
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I cant seem to get my computer to detect the boxes.. any tricks?

Make sure you have installed the usb to serial driver from this website:

N2MB Racing - WOT Box Software

The LED has to be on for you to be able to connect to the box. For the wOT Box, that means the car must be running. The Boost Box can be connected while the key is on, but engine not running.
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You guys still doing both boxes for $330?
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