First off, its easy enough to do on your own but there are some things that seem to be getting missed on these installs, like...
When you pull the BS out of the car do you put bolts back into the holes that are missing them? If not, why? They help hold the bed plate (part that holds the crank in the motor) in place. How about a tap and small plug for the oil feed hole, do you guys have that readily avaliable?
If I were to make a kit for you would you like it to have the oil and filter with it? Full pictures would be included with the kit so it would be very simple, hell we will even take the time to find the best way to break the chain with a screw driver if need be to make the kit super simple. Let me know if you guys would like to see something like this, thanks.
I took my balance shafts out when I disassembled the engine. The chain I cut with a set of bolt cutters, took 3 seconds. The 4 bolts torqued to 40ft\lbs of torque that hold the balance shafts & bedplate together. There's 20 total bolts that hold the bedplate to the block, + the 4 for the BS. The BS out, there should only be 4 shorter bolts, with a special fitting to block the oil passage feeding the BS assembly. Then you'll need some sort of windage tray to keep oil under control. I personally cut the chain, and just plan on reinstalling the BS. No chain, windage not a problem, and no oil control problems. With all the benefits. But if you got something better on the table get on it SON!!! Me about to go off deepend.
I took my balance shafts out when I disassembled the engine. The chain I cut with a set of bolt cutters, took 3 seconds. The 4 bolts torqued to 40ft\lbs of torque that hold the balance shafts & bedplate together. There's 20 total bolts that hold the bedplate to the block, + the 4 for the BS. The BS out, there should only be 4 shorter bolts, with a special fitting to block the oil passage feeding the BS assembly. Then you'll need some sort of windage tray to keep oil under control. I personally cut the chain, and just plan on reinstalling the BS. No chain, windage not a problem, and no oil control problems. With all the benefits. But if you got something better on the table get on it SON!!! Me about to go off deepend.
That is what I was getting at, a kit to do the install. There are not a lot of people that have access to bolts or things readily there for them. So I was figuring that a kit with 4 studs, nuts and the tap and plug needed to plug the feed hole would be about it. Then a through write up on how to do it, hell you could do a big filter kit then as well. Just look at some ideas to make things easier for members here on the forums.
Well I guess I could come up with a windage tray that bolts down to those holes, make it a windage tray crank scraper type of deal that eliminates the BS assembly? Would that work better for you?
If you've ever pulled one off, the oil passage is not that big, or far off from the bolt hole. I personally think, someone should use a strong aluminum casting the same size as the stock balance shaft assembly. The only machine work would be the stack height, 4bolt holes and the mating surfaces. Where the bedplate meets the shaft assembly. 4 new factory bolts, and your could rebolt on, and with some red anarobic sealer on the one feed foot, should seal & be money. The reason I say a cast aluminum, 2 reasons weight & the fact you have a big, light, strong, cast aluminum stud griddle, to retain the strenght factor. That's the best option out there, and the easiest way to do it, just like the factory. Let me know what you think of my idea.
Don't forget the clearence on the dipstick when making the casting.
Well I guess I could come up with a windage tray that bolts down to those holes, make it a windage tray crank scraper type of deal that eliminates the BS assembly? Would that work better for you?
This is your chance....
Jump all over it! I would be interested!
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I think it would be a good idea. I went with the Kevin Johnson windage tray/crank scraper since it looked way better than the DCR one. And besides those two, I cant think of anyone else that sells them
Are you talking about a kit to just remove the chain or to remove the whole assembly and thus also save the extra weight? If you are talking about one to actually remove the assembly I say get on it asap. I have read trhough almost every post on this and none of them have come to one consensus, so a kit that would eliminate any guessing would be great. Even if the kit was just an easy to follow and proven method that removes all the guess work I say go for it.
i removed my balance shaft assy then tapped the oil feed and put a set screw in it. i bought the ishiara johnson crank scraper with the baffle kit. i want to put a bigger pick up but that crank scraper was a bitch to get in. i do need to get with you ptp and get that piece you fabbed up for the big filter kit. i have the two gaskets, but not your center third piece. and do you reroute the coolant from the feedline to the drain that once was the oil cooler system or plug it off?
so i was thinking the kit would include the
ptp big filter kit
custom baffle/scraper kit
1/4 -20 tap
1/4-20 3/8 long set screw
the 4 bolts that bolt back up to the bedplate inplace of the balance shaft. possible high strength bolts. at least grade 8-10 same as stock main bolts. to also maintain the clearance for the scraper/baffle kit.
so is that kinda what your looking at piecing together? i do like the idea on crankscrapers.com with the trap doors prevent sloshing with hard braking and accelerating and the side doors prevent hard cornering. the only thing is thiers is pretty stong but not cast aluminum so the weight reduction is not completly there but still a hell of alot lighter than the stock balance shaft.
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I ordered mine so that it was modded for the DCR bigger pickup tube.
i might just mod it my self for the bigger pick up when i order it. its not that hard. i had to also grind down where the scraper scraped against the counter weights because i put it on bolted the oil pan to the block attemted to turn the crank to make sure it works and it was hitting the scraper. so i had to grind it down a little bit.
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Would you like a BS delete kit?
But if you got something better on the table get on it SON!!! Me about to go off deepend.
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