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Old 01-05-2008, 02:00 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by vschaos View Post
since nobody else offers a setup like this


I really don't think you can say that... we've already delivered a couple of kits.. We we just waiting to have them for all the turbos out there and tested before we released them ..
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Old 01-05-2008, 02:06 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I really don't think you can say that... we've already delivered a couple of kits.. We we just waiting to have them for all the turbos out there and tested before we released them ..
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So show them like people have been asking you to do??? I have the first pictures up of what we feel is going to work. If you want one for "your" specific turbo great, how many options are you going to have??? I can think of 40 different flanges for turbo outlets right off the top of my head. That is going to take a while. Looks like the bully of the neihborhood has just come into our section, welcome.
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Old 01-05-2008, 10:26 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Was just correcting you.. was'nt starting a pissing match.. We have installed 4 local and shipped out one to NJ... and we have most of the popular flanges covered.. I'll leave you alone now..
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So show them like people have been asking you to do??? I have the first pictures up of what we feel is going to work. If you want one for "your" specific turbo great, how many options are you going to have??? I can think of 40 different flanges for turbo outlets right off the top of my head. That is going to take a while. Looks like the bully of the neihborhood has just come into our section, welcome.

I'll have pics up of the turbo kit tomorrow just so you know. Hope you enjoy the pics. Later dude.
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There is going to be a huge gain from the o2 housing as well. The sharp bend is gone right after the turbo and we open up to 3" right away. The manifold will add the 20 or 30 for sure but the O2 will be good for yet another 20 WHP easy.

My suggestion... You should probably get some real numbers first before you go slinging around power gain estimates. This wouldn't be the first time something gets overhyped. Among professionals, backpeddling and making excuses about why something doesn't deliver the expected gains makes you look FAR worse than experiencing gains that are above expectation. Maybe that's why you have so many professionals gunning at you. I don't know why you keep putting yourself in the same awkward position by going out on limbs, telling people they can expect big gains here and big gains there. It might work on gullible newbies who are starving for attention and excitement, but seasoned pros don't fall for the hype, and it can look extremely foolish. Based on 15+ years of fabrication experience, I think it's possible for a person to see gains like that, but I don't have the recklessness to go leading people to expect gains like that unless they were already making 500-550hp with a log manifold. Maybe less, but I wouldn't go telling people to expect it.
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My suggestion... You should probably get some real numbers first before you go slinging around power gain estimates. This wouldn't be the first time something gets overhyped. Among professionals, backpeddling and making excuses about why something doesn't deliver the expected gains makes you look FAR worse than experiencing gains that are above expectation. Maybe that's why you have so many professionals gunning at you. I don't know why you keep putting yourself in the same awkward position by going out on limbs, telling people they can expect big gains here and big gains there. It might work on gullible newbies who are starving for attention and excitement, but seasoned pros don't fall for the hype, and it can look extremely foolish. Based on 15+ years of fabrication experience, I think it's possible for a person to see gains like that, but I don't have the recklessness to go leading people to expect gains like that unless they were already making 500-550hp with a log manifold. Maybe less, but I wouldn't go telling people to expect it.

I think as I mentioned before that he is referring to my car making 450-500...not being the first car to do it. We all know others have already hit those marks.
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Yes this is your set up Kevin.

These are just prototypes for fitment but I should have a set installed on a car in the next 2 weeks with some dyno results to back up the gains (Kevin are you game for this?). With a stock block and stock head we hope to see well over 450 WHP and very close to 500 WHP on race gas.

He mentioned my name about getting dyno results and I will have them with my stock head and block.
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Old 01-08-2008, 06:55 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by phubarr View Post
My suggestion... You should probably get some real numbers first before you go slinging around power gain estimates. This wouldn't be the first time something gets overhyped. Among professionals, backpeddling and making excuses about why something doesn't deliver the expected gains makes you look FAR worse than experiencing gains that are above expectation. Maybe that's why you have so many professionals gunning at you. I don't know why you keep putting yourself in the same awkward position by going out on limbs, telling people they can expect big gains here and big gains there. It might work on gullible newbies who are starving for attention and excitement, but seasoned pros don't fall for the hype, and it can look extremely foolish. Based on 15+ years of fabrication experience, I think it's possible for a person to see gains like that, but I don't have the recklessness to go leading people to expect gains like that unless they were already making 500-550hp with a log manifold. Maybe less, but I wouldn't go telling people to expect it.


Not slinging anything, the manifold has already shown gains of 20 WHP up top. A smoother flowing elbow out of the turbo has already shown gains of 15 WHP (another member on here did that work for me already). I am not telling anyone to "expect" anything. It will come down to the tune and over all health of the motor that will deppend on the additional gains you get out of this system. I mean hell I can say that we got 100 additional WHP with this set up but we installed a built motor during the swap, would that be fair? No it wouldn't so I am not going to say it. People want results and I am hear building the part that they are asking for, I will get the results when we have the time to. I will stand by my gains in my first post, till proven other wise hype or not.
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I'll have pics up of the turbo kit tomorrow just so you know. Hope you enjoy the pics. Later dude.

Looked for the pictures didn't find any???? Link if you have it, thanks.
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I think as I mentioned before that he is referring to my car making 450-500...not being the first car to do it. We all know others have already hit those marks. He mentioned my name about getting dyno results and I will have them with my stock head and block.

Yes you were the one I was reffering to, thanks for keeping that straight.
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Was just correcting you.. was'nt starting a pissing match.. We have installed 4 local and shipped out one to NJ... and we have most of the popular flanges covered.. I'll leave you alone now..

Correcting me, when do I go into your section and correct you? I didn't want to start a pissing match but look at how you worded it and I can say that we have done it before you because we have pictures up of it. People have been asking for pictures or updates for over 4 weeks and still nothing then you come in here stating that you have done it already, show me??? I have been waiting for you to get this done so I can see what my competition is going to offer but nothing so I decided to get something out there for others to "see" and a price so they can start buying them.

Thats how you correct someone, thanks.
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i was looking for this........
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i was looking for this........

I received the parts and put them on the next day to check fitment. There were some minor adjustments that needed to be made so I took lots of pictures and sent it all back to john just a little bit before xmas. I spoke to him last week and he was working on finishing it up to send out this week to me, but havent heard anything yet. I myself am busy....was told I had to go on travel and well....here I am posting from a hotel Everything should be done hopefully so when it all comes in I will be putting it on.
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I received the parts and put them on the next day to check fitment. There were some minor adjustments that needed to be made so I took lots of pictures and sent it all back to john just a little bit before xmas. I spoke to him last week and he was working on finishing it up to send out this week to me, but havent heard anything yet. I myself am busy....was told I had to go on travel and well....here I am posting from a hotel Everything should be done hopefully so when it all comes in I will be putting it on.


a local might be getting this setup with the S60
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a local might be getting this setup with the S60

Sweet sounds good. I spoke to john today briefly and he is busy. Nothing has been shipped yet so wont see any pictures up this week. Should have it done soon though.
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Sweet sounds good. I spoke to john today briefly and he is busy. Nothing has been shipped yet so wont see any pictures up this week. Should have it done soon though.

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