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Old 11-02-2012, 07:50 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by dustin.b View Post
Also I wonder if you can use the harness and o2 sensor from the normal aem wideband.....if so it would be a relatively easy install.

Was wondering the same thing.


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Yes it the the same look at the video I posted. Well the o2 sensor harness is the same.


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Old 11-02-2012, 09:25 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Yes it the the same look at the video I posted. Well the o2 sensor harness is the same.


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Old 11-02-2012, 06:04 PM   #19 (permalink)
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That would be nice if we can get the upgraded gauge and keep the o2 sensor and harness in the car, that sensors going to be a pain to get out.
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Old 11-02-2012, 06:10 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Looks to be exactly the same.




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Old 11-03-2012, 06:33 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Yeah its nice, but I dont see it really helping. I mean if you have to keep monitoring your wideband or to rely on a gauge to shut you down to make sure you are not lean, then you are running way to extreme of a tune or not trusting your tuner/set up.

A good example would be JT's car. Unfortunately the motor blew up on the dyno during Nigels FTW tuning when a injector swelled shut. BUT the wideband read rich. Never had a lean spot. So motors can still fail even with a rich AFR. Having this gauge wouldnt have helped.

Its nice. Its cool that it could help, but it may not be able to help in time is the problem.
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Yeah its nice, but I dont see it really helping. I mean if you have to keep monitoring your wideband or to rely on a gauge to shut you down to make sure you are not lean, then you are running way to extreme of a tune or not trusting your tuner/set up.

A good example would be JT's car. Unfortunately the motor blew up on the dyno during Nigels FTW tuning when a injector swelled shut. BUT the wideband read rich. Never had a lean spot. So motors can still fail even with a rich AFR. Having this gauge wouldnt have helped.

Its nice. Its cool that it could help, but it may not be able to help in time is the problem.

your wrong 100% he told on him self. he said IT KEEP GOING LEAN WE HAD TO ADD FUEL EVERY TIME....
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It did keep leaning out on us...Nigel had to add fuel all the time. On the pull where it popped af was high 10s but measuring af as a whole and not by individual cylinders prevented us from seeing the issue specifically on #3.



not runing my car lean, im actual got some good advice to tune my car at 11.9ish.. its a failsafe if jt and nigel would of set back and thought about what was going on they might could of caught this. not taking anything away from either of them, mistakes happen....

notice i didnt put tunerlover on the list...


parts fail, a bad injector or busted FPR or clogged pump all this stuff could cause issues...i rather catch it in time so it dont blow the motor. the slower your car is the more time you have to look at your gauges while racing. (not saying my car is fast) but its faster than some, i dont have time to look at attention to 10 different things.. so this guage can do it for me....
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your wrong 100% he told on him self. he said IT KEEP GOING LEAN WE HAD TO ADD FUEL EVERY TIME....



not runing my car lean, im actual got some good advice to tune my car at 11.9ish.. its a failsafe if jt and nigel would of set back and thought about what was going on they might could of caught this. not taking anything away from either of them, mistakes happen....

notice i didnt put tunerlover on the list...


parts fail, a bad injector or busted FPR or clogged pump all this stuff could cause issues...i rather catch it in time so it dont blow the motor. the slower your car is the more time you have to look at your gauges while racing. (not saying my car is fast) but its faster than some, i dont have time to look at attention to 10 different things.. so this guage can do it for me....

Youre being a dick for no fucking reason. Nothing in my post should be causing you to act like an asshole. Im trying to provide good information. "Notice I didnt put you on my list" Fuck you dude. I never did anything to you.

Yes the car kept going lean because they KNEW the FTW fuel swells the injectors. You didnt read my post. When the motor blew, the AFR was super rich when the one injector had swelled shut. IT NEVER WENT LEAN WHEN THE INJECTOR FAILED. He even says that in the post you quoted. So this gauge wouldnt have done SHIT.

I just tried providing a common example of how this gauge wouldnt have helped. Take it or leave it. Waste your money on a gauge I could care less.
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^^ and u call ur self a tuner. Haha.

It was rich bc the other 3 cyl were getting to much fuel

I wanted to see their opinion. I already got urs. (If you only new.) haha

U dont know when the injector failed. It might I'd still sprayed some just less than the others.
Could of been failing the hole time.




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^^ and u call ur self a tuner. Haha.

It was rich bc the other 3 cyl were getting to much fuel

NO SHIT SHERLOCK.

And all I did was provide an example of how this gauge WOULDNT have done anything.
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Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3 View Post
NO SHIT SHERLOCK.

And all I did was provide an example of how this gauge WOULDNT have done anything.

Only bc they kept adding fuel and adding fuel. It why it was rich when is blew


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Every dyno pull is logged. The knock sensor is still active and showed no signs of knock. The afr's where very low 11's, high 10's (as suggested). The H/G actually still looks good. But we are measuring afr's in the exhaust as a whole, so if there was a issue and no KR is evident then you are too assume everything is working properly. (I've started tuning cars before and you could tell there was a issue even though everything looked okay and backed off to trouble shoot to find a faulty injector/wiring/etc). Obviously until something happens like this. It was on less timing then when it was on C16 even. So we weren't even pushing it as hard as it had been.

It's unfortunate but things like this happen. That's a chance we all take. With the FTW swelling the injectors one could have swollen up substantially more even. It's hard to say. The injectors will be sent to FIC to be checked.

Again, youre being a dick for no reason dude. I provided a good example of how this gauge wouldnt do anything and you just blew up on me.
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^^ and u call ur self a tuner. Haha.

It was rich bc the other 3 cyl were getting to much fuel

I wanted to see their opinion. I already got urs. (If you only new.) haha

U dont know when the injector failed. It might I'd still sprayed some just less than the others.
Could of been failing the hole time.

If I only knew? umm okay bud.

They dont know when the injector failed either.

Like I said, all I did was provide an example of how this gauge wouldnt do anything to have helped saved this motor. It was an opinion you didnt want to hear and you jumped down my throat for no reason.
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Ok tuner!

I did put lol 5 times after. U got bent. I don't dislike you.




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