Stage 3 now only 306 HP 329 tqr - SRT Forums

triangles · 09-28-2012, 02:47 PM

Just had it dynoed. On a dynojet. So disappointed I only made 306.

Any ideas something I am missing it held at 21 psi all the to red line. On 91 gas?

**Zenkat** · 09-28-2012, 02:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by triangles

Just had it dynoed. On a dynojet. So disappointed I only made 306.

Any ideas something I am missing it held at 21 psi all the to red line. On 91 gas?

Yeah, you're on 91 and low boost/timing. Thats actually pretty normal. Get a 2nd tune for e85, another 4-5lbs of boost, more timing, and you'll probably see about 60-70whp more.

triangles · 09-28-2012, 03:36 PM

Just did one last run 320.08 HP and 330.07 got a print out. Car was at 135 in 4th gear

triangles · 09-28-2012, 03:38 PM

Pic of the 4 runs. first set was 3rd gear it was spinning tires whole way

dabezt1 · 09-28-2012, 03:54 PM

Seems about right for 91oct. Did you happen to take a log of the car during the dyno pulls? Like Zenkat said you cant expect to have much timing on pump gas. Also where was your AF ratio?

The type of dyno impacts your numbers alot too.

**Zenkat** · 09-28-2012, 03:55 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by triangles

Pic of the 4 runs. first set was 3rd gear it was spinning tires whole way

Dont put so much emphasis on tiny number changes. Doesnt look like smoothing is turned on which can inflate your peak number. Bottomline, you need more octane, more boost, more timing. Then your car will impress you.

Advans · 09-28-2012, 04:03 PM

What's A/F's like?

triangles · 09-28-2012, 04:11 PM

No I'm not good with the loging yet still trying to learn it. My air fuel was 11.5.-11.6 at redline the shop owner said the car has an extream amount of growth to play with as far as tunning goes. The dyno was a dynojet 4800 with 8000 lbs rollers.
The shop is just for Honda's and acuras he said he will start with my car on performance upgrades. Hoping he will give me a good deal maybe even start getting in some races

**Zenkat** · 09-28-2012, 04:13 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by triangles

No I'm not good with the loging yet still trying to learn it. My air fuel was 11.5.-11.6 at redline the shop owner said the car has an extream amount of growth to play with as far as tunning goes. The dyno was a dynojet 4800 with 8000 lbs rollers.
The shop is just for Honda's and acuras he said he will start with my car on performance upgrades. Hoping he will give me a good deal maybe even start getting in some races

Duuuuuuude. Start listening to what people in this forum are trying to say to you before you go and waste a shitload of money on a 'honda' tuner.

You have a tune from Duster dont you? Talk to him more, ask him advice on your situation. You seem to have a lot to learn.

triangles · 09-28-2012, 04:48 PM

Yea I know I have alot to learn just wish I had someone infront of me to talk to ill email duster right now

comatoast · 09-28-2012, 04:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by triangles

Just had it dynoed. On a dynojet. So disappointed I only made 306.

Any ideas something I am missing it held at 21 psi all the to red line. On 91 gas?

I had a thread like this too.. Disappointed in #s, on the same boost level.. Mine was 387/421 on a Mustang, but yet trap pretty high.. i would upgrade the fuel system and run e85 if I were you .. Solved alot of issues with pump gas

comatoast · 09-28-2012, 04:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by triangles

Yea I know I have alot to learn just wish I had someone infront of me to talk to ill email duster right now

Oh.. He knows his shit!!!!!

triangles · 09-28-2012, 05:35 PM

Car accelerates fast and is quick I know there more I can going to put e85 with my base tune tonight and try it out see How I like it

Rhunter · 09-28-2012, 05:49 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by triangles

Car accelerates fast and is quick I know there more I can going to put e85 with my base tune tonight and try it out see How I like it

- You cannot just drop e85 in the tank and hope to see gigantic gains. If you do that would mean you were having knock issues and now you are on e85 they are gone.

- Did you say they dyno'd the car in 3rd? those numbers are as useless as tits on a hog. Dyno in 4th for something closer to what you will use on the streets.

mole' · 09-28-2012, 06:02 PM

I did 294hp and 297tq with a 19psi spike on cali 91 with my stock s3. Car was mostly stock. No tune or tuner on the car. You were there for this dyno day Ralph @ ST.

09-28-2012, 02:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
triangles SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Member Number: 80981 Location: riverbank ca Posts: 594	Stage 3 now only 306 HP 329 tqr Just had it dynoed. On a dynojet. So disappointed I only made 306. Any ideas something I am missing it held at 21 psi all the to red line. On 91 gas? Attached Thumbnails __________________ 05 flame red bw Stage 3 47lb 20g By Mole' *daily driven* E85

09-28-2012, 02:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
Zenkat Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Apr 2004 Member Number: 10522 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,053	Quote: Originally Posted by triangles Just had it dynoed. On a dynojet. So disappointed I only made 306. Any ideas something I am missing it held at 21 psi all the to red line. On 91 gas? Yeah, you're on 91 and low boost/timing. Thats actually pretty normal. Get a 2nd tune for e85, another 4-5lbs of boost, more timing, and you'll probably see about 60-70whp more. __________________ 11.21@127.88

09-28-2012, 03:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
triangles SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Member Number: 80981 Location: riverbank ca Posts: 594	Just did one last run 320.08 HP and 330.07 got a print out. Car was at 135 in 4th gear __________________ 05 flame red bw Stage 3 47lb 20g By Mole' *daily driven* E85

09-28-2012, 03:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
triangles SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Member Number: 80981 Location: riverbank ca Posts: 594	Pic of the 4 runs. first set was 3rd gear it was spinning tires whole way Attached Thumbnails __________________ 05 flame red bw Stage 3 47lb 20g By Mole' *daily driven* E85

09-28-2012, 03:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
dabezt1 SRTforums Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Member Number: 52541 Location: USA Posts: 567	Seems about right for 91oct. Did you happen to take a log of the car during the dyno pulls? Like Zenkat said you cant expect to have much timing on pump gas. Also where was your AF ratio? The type of dyno impacts your numbers alot too. __________________ 2004 Black Srt4 - 12.6 @ 123mph - 2.1 60' Last edited by dabezt1; 09-28-2012 at 03:56 PM.

09-28-2012, 03:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
Zenkat Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Apr 2004 Member Number: 10522 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,053	Quote: Originally Posted by triangles Pic of the 4 runs. first set was 3rd gear it was spinning tires whole way Dont put so much emphasis on tiny number changes. Doesnt look like smoothing is turned on which can inflate your peak number. Bottomline, you need more octane, more boost, more timing. Then your car will impress you. __________________ 11.21@127.88

09-28-2012, 04:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
Advans *SRTFORUM Moderator* Join Date: Jun 2004 Member Number: 12791 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 22,469	What's A/F's like? __________________

09-28-2012, 04:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
triangles SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Member Number: 80981 Location: riverbank ca Posts: 594	No I'm not good with the loging yet still trying to learn it. My air fuel was 11.5.-11.6 at redline the shop owner said the car has an extream amount of growth to play with as far as tunning goes. The dyno was a dynojet 4800 with 8000 lbs rollers. The shop is just for Honda's and acuras he said he will start with my car on performance upgrades. Hoping he will give me a good deal maybe even start getting in some races __________________ 05 flame red bw Stage 3 47lb 20g By Mole' *daily driven* E85

09-28-2012, 04:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
Zenkat Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Apr 2004 Member Number: 10522 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,053	Quote: Originally Posted by triangles No I'm not good with the loging yet still trying to learn it. My air fuel was 11.5.-11.6 at redline the shop owner said the car has an extream amount of growth to play with as far as tunning goes. The dyno was a dynojet 4800 with 8000 lbs rollers. The shop is just for Honda's and acuras he said he will start with my car on performance upgrades. Hoping he will give me a good deal maybe even start getting in some races Duuuuuuude. Start listening to what people in this forum are trying to say to you before you go and waste a shitload of money on a 'honda' tuner. You have a tune from Duster dont you? Talk to him more, ask him advice on your situation. You seem to have a lot to learn. __________________ 11.21@127.88

09-28-2012, 04:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
triangles SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Member Number: 80981 Location: riverbank ca Posts: 594	Yea I know I have alot to learn just wish I had someone infront of me to talk to ill email duster right now __________________ 05 flame red bw Stage 3 47lb 20g By Mole' *daily driven* E85

09-28-2012, 04:54 PM	#11 (permalink)
comatoast SRTforums Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Member Number: 85196 Location: MN Posts: 558	Quote: Originally Posted by triangles Just had it dynoed. On a dynojet. So disappointed I only made 306. Any ideas something I am missing it held at 21 psi all the to red line. On 91 gas? I had a thread like this too.. Disappointed in #s, on the same boost level.. Mine was 387/421 on a Mustang, but yet trap pretty high.. i would upgrade the fuel system and run e85 if I were you .. Solved alot of issues with pump gas __________________ Turbo / TB - AGP Zeta 3.0 / 28 psi , AGP bfmic, Boomba 70mm tb Engine - Wiseco 8.8:1 pistons .020 over , eagle h-beam rods , king main and rod bearings , DCR crank strap kit, Head - FnF race ported exh ports , +2mm rev exh valves , BC springs and Ti retianers , BC stage 4 cams (280s) , Boomba cam gears, Fuel -* , 900cc fic inj , -6an feed and return lines , fuel pump rewire , bottle neck fix , Bosch 044 intank , aeromotive rrfpr , E85..

09-28-2012, 04:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
comatoast SRTforums Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Member Number: 85196 Location: MN Posts: 558	Quote: Originally Posted by triangles Yea I know I have alot to learn just wish I had someone infront of me to talk to ill email duster right now Oh.. He knows his shit!!!!! __________________ Turbo / TB - AGP Zeta 3.0 / 28 psi , AGP bfmic, Boomba 70mm tb Engine - Wiseco 8.8:1 pistons .020 over , eagle h-beam rods , king main and rod bearings , DCR crank strap kit, Head - FnF race ported exh ports , +2mm rev exh valves , BC springs and Ti retianers , BC stage 4 cams (280s) , Boomba cam gears, Fuel -* , 900cc fic inj , -6an feed and return lines , fuel pump rewire , bottle neck fix , Bosch 044 intank , aeromotive rrfpr , E85..

09-28-2012, 05:35 PM	#13 (permalink)
triangles SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Member Number: 80981 Location: riverbank ca Posts: 594	Car accelerates fast and is quick I know there more I can going to put e85 with my base tune tonight and try it out see How I like it __________________ 05 flame red bw Stage 3 47lb 20g By Mole' *daily driven* E85

09-28-2012, 05:49 PM	#14 (permalink)
Rhunter SRTforums Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Member Number: 36794 Location: LOCASH Posts: 10,487	Quote: Originally Posted by triangles Car accelerates fast and is quick I know there more I can going to put e85 with my base tune tonight and try it out see How I like it - You cannot just drop e85 in the tank and hope to see gigantic gains. If you do that would mean you were having knock issues and now you are on e85 they are gone. - Did you say they dyno'd the car in 3rd? those numbers are as useless as tits on a hog. Dyno in 4th for something closer to what you will use on the streets. __________________ Nunca Levanta! EL RALFO RACING.COM "A Lotta turbo, Small motor, and a GO pedal!!!"

09-28-2012, 06:02 PM	#15 (permalink)
mole' Supporting Vendor (Gold) Join Date: Sep 2004 Member Number: 17477 Location: SoCal (760/661) Posts: 50,857	I did 294hp and 297tq with a 19psi spike on cali 91 with my stock s3. Car was mostly stock. No tune or tuner on the car. You were there for this dyno day Ralph @ ST. __________________ DCR spiced and Tuned by the Mad Scientist team Jay@N2MB and Nigel@BST (turbo666) Mole' (STOCK TURBO) 16g BWS setup #s 380hp+ and 444tq+ 11.7@122 1.71 60ft PM/email me for all your 16g/18g/20g BWS setup and DCR needs...... Darrell Cox Racing on facebook, 1-517-369-9636 10am-5pm est webstore... DCRSRT.com. email me at mole79@aol.com .

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