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Old 10-25-2009, 08:57 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by turbojonsrt4 View Post
oh goodness

Ditch that clutch, and if you plan on making real power and actually beating on the car, think about beefing up the tranny.


Then elaborate, which clutch should I buy.

Right now, my car pulls 350 whp easy with the OEM clutch, which does not slip at all. I chose SPEC, because they were highly recommended, the only argument I had was someone trying to sell from his vendors. I picked the Stage 3+ because it holds 60-80 ft/lbs beyond a stage 4 but without the rough engagement.

If you have a better idea, let me hear it.
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That OEM clutch will last a while, as long as you drive the car like a little old lady 95% of the time. 5 or 6 passes down the strip though, and I bet you'll start getting slip.

I have an SBC non-modular clutch. Love it so far. S3RS will hold over 500 tq.

Whatever brand you get, go non-modular. It's more expensive, but well worth it. Modular clutches have a FAR higher fail rate.
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Old 10-25-2009, 09:10 AM   #33 (permalink)
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That OEM clutch will last a while, as long as you drive the car like a little old lady 95% of the time. 5 or 6 passes down the strip though, and I bet you'll start getting slip.

I have an SBC non-modular clutch. Love it so far. S3RS will hold over 500 tq.

Whatever brand you get, go non-modular. It's more expensive, but well worth it. Modular clutches have a FAR higher fail rate.

I did not know they made non-modular clutches. Honestly, if it wasn't for necessity, I would leave the OEM in. However, I tried to get it ready to push 500 ft/lbs with some overage. I purchased a SPEC Stage 3+

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Quote: Originally Posted by Fastredcar4 View Post
I did not know they made non-modular clutches. Honestly, if it wasn't for necessity, I would leave the OEM in. However, I tried to get it ready to push 500 ft/lbs with some overage. I purchased a SPEC Stage 3+

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@ bold statement! It's all good, I think I get the gist of what you're saying anyways.

But yeah, the non-mod is really the only way to go for high hp setups on the SRT
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Quote: Originally Posted by wiggyx View Post
@ bold statement! It's all good, I think I get the gist of what you're saying anyways.

But yeah, the non-mod is really the only way to go for high hp setups on the SRT

I'll look into that, but I'm not going to sent the one I bought back before I've got a feel for it.

Are they strictly for high torque ranges, like the twin disks? Or just a likely alternative?
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They're better because they don't have the insane fail rate that modular clutches do. Their are plenty of modular clutches that will hold tons of torque, but I still wouldn't bother. Less expensive in the short run will end up being more expensive in the long run.
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When I went home on R&R, I completely took my car apart. I removed the pistons, head, pan, bumper and most of the fuel system.

My garage is filled with parts, some cleaned, some replacement and a few upgrades.

I have to finish the fuel system, redo all the hoses, resecure all the wires, add a third gauge, reinstall the NO2 system, reinstall the tanks, clean my exhaust pipes, get more welding done, reinstall the bearings, pistons and rods. I also have to put the intake and head back together, set the gears and then tune it.

I imagine this will take a few weeks.

Because I knew this would be super involved, I decided to rebuild the entire motor. It will be awesome, like frankenstein's red monster.
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Quote: Originally Posted by wiggyx View Post
They're better because they don't have the insane fail rate that modular clutches do. Their are plenty of modular clutches that will hold tons of torque, but I still wouldn't bother. Less expensive in the short run will end up being more expensive in the long run.

Any websites come to mind, so I can check them out?
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Look up South Bend Clutch (SBC). Their website is terrible, but at least you can see some if the pricing.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Fastredcar4 View Post
Very good comment. I have been teaching him everything I know and as much as I woulf love to hand over the keys in three years, I would also like to have him around in five.

With the modularized system, I can pull the second turbo out, drop the boost, set the gears back to street, pull the plugs on the 2nd fuel pump, larger injectors and exhaust cutout. Then I load a simpler, less aggressive AEM calibration and he has an A-B car. All this without taking anything away.

I figured he can prove himself and earn the HP back.
If that's not bad enough, my 8 year old is saving his allowance for a GTR?!

haha good stuff man well im definatley wating for the profress, and you have some good kids lol i hope mine are into cars when i have them.
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haha good stuff man well im definatley wating for the profress, and you have some good kids lol i hope mine are into cars when i have them.

My children take after me. I have 4 boys: 2, 6, 8 and 13. My 13 year old is technically my stepson (for those critics out there). Even though he is not genetically mapped to be super awesome, he really believes in me and what I do.

I grew up the son of a muscle car enthusiest. My father and I built a 71 GTO together. He killed himself a while back and now it is my turn. I always start with the basics and am good at teaching children to understand. They need priorities.

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are we ever gonna see pics of this thing?
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get rid of that spec clutch or be prepared for problems. why twin turbos anyways, such a waste of money. go with a delta hta 60
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A lot of folks seem to be going that route as of late. I don't really see the advantage either, unless they were run sequentially, which I have not heard of anybody doing yet. Seems like a lot of headache for what amounts to any other single turbo setup
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