Can't go wrong Dave! As long as he stays working on one vehicle at a time
Yeah that was me, I'll back up for some other stuff a bit later, without the additional 115 miles I drove to get it flashed in Concord and then to Modesto for install.
What's everyone here running as far as HP's goes on stock S3 WGA PCM controlled Hybrid S3 Turbofold on S1 PCM and S2 INJ/Walbro/re-wiring. Just bolt ons, TBE/INT/FMIC/TB, NO W/I or Meth. I'm only at 308 according to the Scangauge. spiking to 22 and droping to 15/16. I'm hoping pump that shit up to 330 once the PTP wga gets to me.
What's everyone here running as far as HP's goes on stock S3 WGA PCM controlled Hybrid S3 Turbofold on S1 PCM and S2 INJ/Walbro/re-wiring. Just bolt ons, TBE/INT/FMIC/TB, NO W/I or Meth. I'm only at 308 according to the Scangauge. spiking to 22 and droping to 15/16. I'm hoping pump that shit up to 330 once the PTP wga gets to me.
Yup Im wondering what everyone is making just with the stage 3 alone without all the crazy shit on it just stage 3.
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Yup Im wondering what everyone is making just with the stage 3 alone without all the crazy shit on it just stage 3.
Huh?
You guys really are new aren't you or don't use the site very well.
There was a S3R feedback thread before this one and it started shortly after the kits became available and started shipping, circa 2004.
Most of the questions you have asked about output are located there, the system does close to or about rated power with the recommended Mopar Cat-Back or equivalent exhaust upgrade.
You pick up a bit more with Mopar's cat-delete.
That's HOM, no HOM, DAB3 or No Toys cars all included...
You can also check the Stage 3R dyno thread for more information.
Power numbers are not nearly as impressive has how FAST the car becomes!
BTW hybrid setups get S3R no Toys numbers (around 300hp)
ive seen 400+ come outta S3 hydrids. Im actually selling my S3 ecu and putting in a S2 w/toys.
That may be the case (I am sure Aaron@RealTune has) and this is really not a discussions of how to short-cut Mopar and get more power for less, in a much less sophisticated manner as well.
What advantage is there to using a S2 with Toys, IF you have an S3 with Toys PCM????
Just pulled the arm out enough to meet the flapper door and the "hook" is all the way back to the adjustment locking nut, I have no more threads showing.
Jumped on it bit -
10-12psi in 2nd
18-19psi in 3rd, had to jump on the brakes
DAB2
I guess I can get a bit more by removing the locking nut which would give me about 4 threads and then I can adjust back for 2 threads showing and that should give me 20-22psi spike, 18-19psi hold at redline.
Might spike slightly higher in 4th and 5th of course, but I think I'm on the right track.
That may be the case (I am sure Aaron@RealTune has) and this is really not a discussions of how to short-cut Mopar and get more power for less, in a much less sophisticated manner as well.
What advantage is there to using a S2 with Toys, IF you have an S3 with Toys PCM????
that advantage is the 400 dollar difference in my pocket
S3= $700
S2= $300
Ill just tune the difference. Otherwise yes, the S3 is a lil more aggressive PCM.
That extra timing makes a big difference. Although I will admit I have never tried S2 ECU with S3 turbo. Let us know.
DJ, keep in mind S3 will give you more & more power as it tunes itself. Right out of the box it starts mello, then adds timing as it feels comfortable. Just stay out of knock. It classifies knock 2 ways. Short term & long term. Short term it just pulls timing till it sees no knock for a little bit. Long term it will basicaly go back to original timing or worse & will wait a long time to watch your good behavior before it gives your timing back.
As far as boost goes, give it a chance to get to 20-21psi. THat has been pretty normal. Also remember S3 is not looking for a boost level, the ECU is looking for a calculated power level. If you can hit that power level at 19psi, then it is only going to give you 19psi. THe bottom line is you need to give it some time to see what the ECU is going to do. before you should start monkying with it. Most guys that have turned up the WGA on S3 get lowered back down by the ECU. It will literally vent more boost on its own to get teh PSI back down. Give it time.
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11.5@114 with a good driver
That extra timing makes a big difference. Although I will admit I have never tried S2 ECU with S3 turbo. Let us know.
DJ, keep in mind S3 will give you more & more power as it tunes itself. Right out of the box it starts mello, then adds timing as it feels comfortable. Just stay out of knock. It classifies knock 2 ways. Short term & long term. Short term it just pulls timing till it sees no knock for a little bit. Long term it will basicaly go back to original timing or worse & will wait a long time to watch your good behavior before it gives your timing back.
As far as boost goes, give it a chance to get to 20-21psi. THat has been pretty normal. Also remember S3 is not looking for a boost level, the ECU is looking for a calculated power level. If you can hit that power level at 19psi, then it is only going to give you 19psi. THe bottom line is you need to give it some time to see what the ECU is going to do. before you should start monkying with it. Most guys that have turned up the WGA on S3 get lowered back down by the ECU. It will literally vent more boost on its own to get teh PSI back down. Give it time.
I had a stg2 pcm on with stg3 and holy sh!t. It was a night and day difference from the stg2 to stg3 pcm. I don't care what anyone says, you will have more fun on the stg3 pcm.
I've been running my stock turbo for over six months ever since my s3 self destructed Anyways I am getting my s3 installed as I write this I had it rebuilt with the 51 lbs hi flow wheel, external wg, ramp mod, 3 inch inlet. I can't wait to get her on the road again. So, I can feel the s3 powa once again!!!
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I've been running my stock turbo for over six months ever since my s3 self destructed Anyways I am getting my s3 installed as I write this I had it rebuilt with the 51 lbs hi flow wheel, external wg, ramp mod, 3 inch inlet. I can't wait to get her on the road again. So, I can feel the s3 powa once again!!!
Didn't you used to have a built up S3 from F&F? I'm guessing you're going with DCR based upon your description?
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Didn't you used to have a built up S3 from F&F? I'm guessing you're going with DCR based upon your description?
I had deadbolt do the mods on my s3. Unfortunately I ran into a problem with it. So I sent in out to DCR to get rebuilt etc. I drove the car home, however, I have not gotten on it yet. I want to break it in slowly but the turbo does make an awesome sound as it get closer to 0 psi from - vac.
You guys really are new aren't you or don't use the site very well.
There was a S3R feedback thread before this one and it started shortly after the kits became available and started shipping, circa 2004.
Most of the questions you have asked about output are located there, the system does close to or about rated power with the recommended Mopar Cat-Back or equivalent exhaust upgrade.
You pick up a bit more with Mopar's cat-delete.
That's HOM, no HOM, DAB3 or No Toys cars all included...
You can also check the Stage 3R dyno thread for more information.
Power numbers are not nearly as impressive has how FAST the car becomes!
BTW hybrid setups get S3R no Toys numbers (around 300hp)
Yo Hommie! Thanks for the info but there's no need for SHIT TALKING at the beginning of the thread. I've been around for a good minute and know how to navigate, just that I was looking for a specific HYBRID setup. But thanks for the info nevertheless.
That extra timing makes a big difference. Although I will admit I have never tried S2 ECU with S3 turbo. Let us know.
DJ, keep in mind S3 will give you more & more power as it tunes itself. Right out of the box it starts mello, then adds timing as it feels comfortable. Just stay out of knock. It classifies knock 2 ways. Short term & long term. Short term it just pulls timing till it sees no knock for a little bit. Long term it will basicaly go back to original timing or worse & will wait a long time to watch your good behavior before it gives your timing back.
As far as boost goes, give it a chance to get to 20-21psi. THat has been pretty normal. Also remember S3 is not looking for a boost level, the ECU is looking for a calculated power level. If you can hit that power level at 19psi, then it is only going to give you 19psi. THe bottom line is you need to give it some time to see what the ECU is going to do. before you should start monkying with it. Most guys that have turned up the WGA on S3 get lowered back down by the ECU. It will literally vent more boost on its own to get the PSI back down. Give it time.
Who's playing with it?
I only had 8psi, less than stock, less than before and the lowest EVER even with leaks when I first got the car.
That was DAB0,1,2 or 3
All I did was pull the arm out 4mm and took up the threads on the adjustment
Now I have 18-19psi, 10-12psi DAB1-2 and I think 8-9 in DAB0 but I haven't had it back in 0 since I have been home.
I haven't really given it the BEANS yet, just a flash of WOT from 1st to 3rd before I had to jump all over the brakes... DAB 2 less than 1/8th of a mile slightly downhill - 92mph
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Anyways I am getting my s3 installed as I write this 
I had it rebuilt with the 51 lbs hi flow wheel, external wg, ramp mod, 3 inch inlet. I can't wait to get her on the road again. So, I can feel the s3 powa once again!!!
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