Horsepower gains~Race Fuel vs. E85 vs. W/M injection - Page 11 - SRT Forums

duster360 · 01-01-2013, 02:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by viper gts

After alot of searching I havn't been able to find WHP on E1s on E85 other than T3s...Thinking an FM manifold or SDK for good measure with the E85 switch

numbers should be similar to other BWS. ~360-380whp.

enginjoe · 01-01-2013, 02:38 PM

Well, if you try to calculate hp by ET and MPH, my numbers vary greatly. With the SSTv3 (similar BWS turbo), my best was a 12.7 @ 116mph on E85. Crappy 60ft, spun in 1st and 2nd. So, with a weight of 3175 with me in it you get 306whp by ET and 407hp by mph. It's somewhere in the middle there because those calculators don't take into account loss of traction and the equations break down. Those numbers would be a safe boundary of the high a low possiblities. I actually trapped 120 once, but the run was a joke spinning into third. I ran a bunch of high 12s/low 13s at around ~118mph to back it up. I was on DRs and could never get better than a 1.95 60ft. If I had gotten slicks and hooked decent, I could have easily gotten a low 12/high 11.

**viper gts** · 01-01-2013, 03:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by duster360

numbers should be similar to other BWS. ~360-380whp.

Wow! Do you think a ported exhaust manifold is a worth while add on at this point?

tunerlover3 · 01-01-2013, 03:05 PM

For your E1, yes.

**viper gts** · 01-01-2013, 03:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3

I never dynoed with the E1 and E85.

My numbers in the sig are for stock turbo.

Lookin' forward to seeing your E1~E85 numbers...Plus being on a Mustang dyno

tunerlover3 · 01-01-2013, 03:20 PM

I sold my E1 and Im selling my car lol

Look forward to my 5431 on E85 numbers

**viper gts** · 01-01-2013, 03:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3

I sold my E1 and Im selling my car lol

Look forward to my 5431 on E85 numbers

Wish I could go bigger turbo...I'll suffer with my E85 drinking little guy turbo

**Zenkat** · 01-01-2013, 11:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by viper gts

Wish I could go bigger turbo...I'll suffer with my E85 drinking little guy turbo

You can surprise a lot of people going that direction. People just dont expect that kind of power when they hear stock turbo.

**viper gts** · 01-02-2013, 09:53 AM

Ya' I know its gay having a little turbo

, but Im setup for it and when I decide to go big turbo, I'm gonna just sell my car and buy a faster ride instead!

Donnie · 01-02-2013, 11:10 AM

I love my gay little MHI Turbo, thank you.

**viper gts** · 01-02-2013, 11:59 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Donnie

I love my gay little MHI Turbo, thank you.

ME TOO

**viper gts** · 01-03-2013, 09:47 AM

I think Im going to do the E85 with Dusters Injectors and custom CMR tune now...My manifold was lightly ported by FM already...I can always add one later...The jump to E85 is going to be an awesome gain in power anyways!

Ridin59vette · 01-03-2013, 10:01 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by viper gts

I think Im going to do the E85 with Dusters Injectors and custom CMR tune now...My manifold was lightly ported by FM already...I can always add one later...The jump to E85 is going to be an awesome gain in power anyways!

I'd Just get moles' manifold with the raceport and elbow mod. If you really wanna max out the E1

**Zenkat** · 01-03-2013, 11:21 AM

If you wanna keep it stealthy, just use a port/polish internally gated manifold. I've never seen data saying if the elbow mod even helps, so i wouldnt bother with it.

**viper gts** · 01-03-2013, 03:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ridin59vette

I'd Just get moles' manifold with the raceport and elbow mod. If you really wanna max out the E1

Quote: Originally Posted by Zenkat

If you wanna keep it stealthy, just use a port/polish internally gated manifold. I've never seen data saying if the elbow mod even helps, so i wouldnt bother with it.

conflicting opinions

I'll go with Zenkats suggestion because he has more posts

Im ordering Duster's injectors tomorrow do the switch to E85 and get it tuned and dynoed and see where Im at...If Im anywhere from 330~360 I will be happy as a pig in shit

01-01-2013, 02:21 PM	#151 (permalink)
duster360 Supporting Vendor (Gold) Join Date: Aug 2006 Member Number: 45182 Location: Central IL Posts: 9,318	Quote: Originally Posted by viper gts After alot of searching I havn't been able to find WHP on E1s on E85 other than T3s...Thinking an FM manifold or SDK for good measure with the E85 switch numbers should be similar to other BWS. ~360-380whp. __________________ 1025cc Injectors+ E85/GAS Base tunes =$359 ADD Boost By Gear to ANY PCM boost control tune $75 E85+Gas Base tune Combo $150[Only available for 1025cc Siemens/FIC1100&2150/AGP1200/All ID] PLEASE USE EMAIL!!dave at needlesstorque dot com

01-01-2013, 02:38 PM	#152 (permalink)
enginjoe SRTforums Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Member Number: 3797 Location: Tucson Posts: 5,044	Well, if you try to calculate hp by ET and MPH, my numbers vary greatly. With the SSTv3 (similar BWS turbo), my best was a 12.7 @ 116mph on E85. Crappy 60ft, spun in 1st and 2nd. So, with a weight of 3175 with me in it you get 306whp by ET and 407hp by mph. It's somewhere in the middle there because those calculators don't take into account loss of traction and the equations break down. Those numbers would be a safe boundary of the high a low possiblities. I actually trapped 120 once, but the run was a joke spinning into third. I ran a bunch of high 12s/low 13s at around ~118mph to back it up. I was on DRs and could never get better than a 1.95 60ft. If I had gotten slicks and hooked decent, I could have easily gotten a low 12/high 11. __________________ 2003 SRT-4 Silver, AGP GT3076R on E85 DD! Was 478hp/508tq ----> Now ??? 2002 Camaro SS M6, going N/A...

01-01-2013, 03:05 PM	#154 (permalink)
tunerlover3 Fresh Meat Moderator Join Date: Dec 2009 Member Number: 76568 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,617	For your E1, yes. __________________ Diablo CMR tuner ~Dan~ 2004 Black Neon SRT4: E85 stock turbo SOLD 310HP 436TQ 2004 Eblue Neon SRT4: E85 5558 XXXHP XXXTQ

01-01-2013, 03:20 PM	#156 (permalink)
tunerlover3 Fresh Meat Moderator Join Date: Dec 2009 Member Number: 76568 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,617	I sold my E1 and Im selling my car lol Look forward to my 5431 on E85 numbers __________________ Diablo CMR tuner ~Dan~ 2004 Black Neon SRT4: E85 stock turbo SOLD 310HP 436TQ 2004 Eblue Neon SRT4: E85 5558 XXXHP XXXTQ

01-01-2013, 11:46 PM	#158 (permalink)
Zenkat Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Apr 2004 Member Number: 10522 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,052	Quote: Originally Posted by viper gts Wish I could go bigger turbo...I'll suffer with my E85 drinking little guy turbo You can surprise a lot of people going that direction. People just dont expect that kind of power when they hear stock turbo. __________________ 11.21@127.88

01-01-2013, 03:01 PM	#153 (permalink)
viper gts Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Apr 2011 Member Number: 83983 Location: vernon ct Posts: 633	Quote: Originally Posted by duster360 numbers should be similar to other BWS. ~360-380whp. Wow! Do you think a ported exhaust manifold is a worth while add on at this point?

01-01-2013, 03:09 PM	#155 (permalink)
viper gts Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Apr 2011 Member Number: 83983 Location: vernon ct Posts: 633	Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3 I never dynoed with the E1 and E85. My numbers in the sig are for stock turbo. Lookin' forward to seeing your E1~E85 numbers...Plus being on a Mustang dyno

01-01-2013, 03:29 PM	#157 (permalink)
viper gts Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Apr 2011 Member Number: 83983 Location: vernon ct Posts: 633	Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3 I sold my E1 and Im selling my car lol Look forward to my 5431 on E85 numbers Wish I could go bigger turbo...I'll suffer with my E85 drinking little guy turbo

01-02-2013, 09:53 AM	#159 (permalink)
viper gts Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Apr 2011 Member Number: 83983 Location: vernon ct Posts: 633	Ya' I know its gay having a little turbo, but Im setup for it and when I decide to go big turbo, I'm gonna just sell my car and buy a faster ride instead!

01-02-2013, 11:10 AM	#160 (permalink)
Donnie SRTforums Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Member Number: 86947 Location: Chicago. Posts: 253	I love my gay little MHI Turbo, thank you. __________________ The stupid Daily: MHI S3r, E85 and much more.

01-02-2013, 11:59 AM	#161 (permalink)
viper gts Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Apr 2011 Member Number: 83983 Location: vernon ct Posts: 633	Quote: Originally Posted by Donnie I love my gay little MHI Turbo, thank you. ME TOO

01-03-2013, 09:47 AM	#162 (permalink)
viper gts Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Apr 2011 Member Number: 83983 Location: vernon ct Posts: 633	I think Im going to do the E85 with Dusters Injectors and custom CMR tune now...My manifold was lightly ported by FM already...I can always add one later...The jump to E85 is going to be an awesome gain in power anyways!

01-03-2013, 10:01 AM	#163 (permalink)
Ridin59vette SRTforums Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Member Number: 86347 Location: Albany Posts: 1,090	Quote: Originally Posted by viper gts I think Im going to do the E85 with Dusters Injectors and custom CMR tune now...My manifold was lightly ported by FM already...I can always add one later...The jump to E85 is going to be an awesome gain in power anyways! I'd Just get moles' manifold with the raceport and elbow mod. If you really wanna max out the E1 __________________ 04 SRT-4: Under Construction 99 9-3: Daily Driver FS Thread: http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f416...5/#post9777568

01-03-2013, 11:21 AM	#164 (permalink)
Zenkat Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Apr 2004 Member Number: 10522 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,052	If you wanna keep it stealthy, just use a port/polish internally gated manifold. I've never seen data saying if the elbow mod even helps, so i wouldnt bother with it. __________________ 11.21@127.88

01-03-2013, 03:34 PM	#165 (permalink)
viper gts Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Apr 2011 Member Number: 83983 Location: vernon ct Posts: 633	Quote: Originally Posted by Ridin59vette I'd Just get moles' manifold with the raceport and elbow mod. If you really wanna max out the E1 Quote: Originally Posted by Zenkat If you wanna keep it stealthy, just use a port/polish internally gated manifold. I've never seen data saying if the elbow mod even helps, so i wouldnt bother with it. conflicting opinionsI'll go with Zenkats suggestion because he has more postsIm ordering Duster's injectors tomorrow do the switch to E85 and get it tuned and dynoed and see where Im at...If Im anywhere from 330~360 I will be happy as a pig in shit Last edited by viper gts; 01-03-2013 at 03:40 PM.

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