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Lets say with stock turbo with bolt ons, and a BWS or big turbo with bolt ons and supporting mods, all with appropriate tuning. Not considering the plus and minus of each, or whats available in your area, price, safety, or anything else. Just the dirt on actual HP gains with each of these formats...The more I research I cant make heads or tails of which setup is the king POWER WISE ONLY...
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Didnt you already create a thread on this?
Race gas or E85 is going to be the best for power. There are too many variables to tell you a HP gain.
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Devils own claims 10~15% increase. I have researched here race fuel around 10% increase. E85 is all over the map...I thought meth was the least, and if you actually get 15% that would beat race fuel. E85 who knows there are some outlandish HP numbers being posted in various threads here...So not so much about how much HP you will gain, but the % increase over whatever mods and HP you have!
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Still there are too many variables even if you think of a percentage.
What kind of race gas, what mixture of water to meth, race grade or standard E85? Too many variables. Every setup is different and will react differently to you. Find what suits your needs.
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are you looking for what will make the most power on any set up?
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I understand...Lets use my car as an example then 'cause I am trying to acheive the best results for my setup! 03 PT GT...E1...3 bars, 650CC injectors...Stage 1 PCM...DSP...PCM control...Duster tune...3 inch catless...Ported exhaust manifold...CAI...Plan on running 20 PSI...Now either 100 octane Turbo Blue with tune...Devil's own 3 bar progressive and tune...E85 with larger injectors and tune...I know there are still a few more variables but take a stab on the most power for my situation...I appreciate your expert opinion Tuner everytime you reply!
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e85 would be best cuz u can daily drive with it. race gas is expensive too expensive for a daily driver. i have had friends with meth and big turbos etc and once e85 was available in the area they switch to it and made more power than wen they were on 93 and meth
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e85 would be best cuz u can daily drive with it. race gas is expensive too expensive for a daily driver. i have had friends with meth and big turbos etc and once e85 was available in the area they switch to it and made more power than wen they were on 93 and meth
I am not concerned with any variables, price, availability, or problematic issues just what will make the most POWER!
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If E85 is available, use E85.
If E85 is not available, either you w/i or race gas. That simple. All your thinking about is power. If you really just want to make the most power then just buy drums of Q16 and end this thread.
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If E85 is available, use E85.
If E85 is not available, either you w/i or race gas. That simple. All your thinking about is power. If you really just want to make the most power then just buy drums of Q16 and end this thread. ^^^^this
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Not Q16 it wont.
Your using the term "race gas" too loosely.
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Every car responds different...
I personally switched to e85 from C16 for cost reasons and don't regret it at all, but you also have to have the fuel system for it. Also, remember that Q16 is MUCH more corrosive than C16.
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