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Old 02-07-2008, 08:07 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Modern Performance should dyno an SRT-4 with each brand of plug wire to see which set works best on the srt-4. Mopar, Granatelli, Taylor, MSD, and Magnecore.
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Old 02-09-2008, 04:55 PM   #32 (permalink)
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thats not a bad idea^^^^
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Old 02-09-2008, 05:29 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by SRT-4_2-25-03 View Post
MPG Plus will be correcting the problem. This is just the fix for someone that had my situation. I am glad to know how to correct it. All parties involved were unaware of the problem with the fitment to the SRT-4 and it was something that just cropped up. No big deal now.

Not meant to be a "Put Down" at all, but what ever happened to "Quality Control" with product launches nowadays... this is exactly what seems to be the norm nowadays.
I had every intention on getting a set of these,I am seriously reconsidering that idea.
This sort of thing is happening with all kinds of products, case in point:
I work for a ultra high end carpeting store,let's just say the cheapest product line we carry is around $90.00, and I mean cheap!
Just last week we picked up this order to be installed in a multi $$$ million dollar estate; the product in question is Belgian( one of the best name in the industry) at an insane $320/Page Ranking yd....now get this, it has a "knuckle weave" and it is sold as a wall to wall product, BUT I found out that they omitted to add a normal "bead line low to high" feature that allows us to create near invisible seams...
I brought it to the attention of the big boss and showed him samples I prepared for him in both cross and length seams....Christ, Ray Charles would see these seams, needless to say the entire order was cancelled( after the customer had to wait for over 3 months for this shit to be manufactured) and sent back to Belgium...
Inside every cut roll( 18 in total) there were paper notices about the ultimate quality of the product and inspected by so & so, and yet there you have it,just the typical rush to market!!!!!!!!
Just sick of this shit happening....of course the customer is pissed at me for making the call to NOT proceed with the install, so I am the bad guy, go figure!!!!
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i know how you feel ive been in QC, QA my whole adult career and the guys i supervise just dont get it sometimes. they say ahh this looks good, customer wont see that. And then i can them. HEHEHEHEHe
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Did they ever fix the problem with them not clicking onto the spark plug?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Rugger View Post
Not meant to be a "Put Down" at all, but what ever happened to "Quality Control" with product launches nowadays... this is exactly what seems to be the norm nowadays.
I had every intention on getting a set of these,I am seriously reconsidering that idea.
This sort of thing is happening with all kinds of products, case in point:
I work for a ultra high end carpeting store,let's just say the cheapest product line we carry is around $90.00, and I mean cheap!
Just last week we picked up this order to be installed in a multi $$$ million dollar estate; the product in question is Belgian( one of the best name in the industry) at an insane $320/Page Ranking yd....now get this, it has a "knuckle weave" and it is sold as a wall to wall product, BUT I found out that they omitted to add a normal "bead line low to high" feature that allows us to create near invisible seams...
I brought it to the attention of the big boss and showed him samples I prepared for him in both cross and length seams....Christ, Ray Charles would see these seams, needless to say the entire order was cancelled( after the customer had to wait for over 3 months for this shit to be manufactured) and sent back to Belgium...
Inside every cut roll( 18 in total) there were paper notices about the ultimate quality of the product and inspected by so & so, and yet there you have it,just the typical rush to market!!!!!!!!
Just sick of this shit happening....of course the customer is pissed at me for making the call to NOT proceed with the install, so I am the bad guy, go figure!!!!


Finally someone gets what I was saying!!!
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Old 02-11-2008, 08:00 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Did they ever fix the problem with them not clicking onto the spark plug?


They are better. Talk to Chris at Modern Performance. He actaully checked mine before shipping them! The Granatelli wires are awesome. I love them. If you do talk to Chris tell him to dyno a few brands of spark plug wires already.
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Ok guys, to this date, the only wires we have had issues with is a small batch of 90 degree boot wires that were sent out. These 90 degree boot wires were a little short in length and therefore, we have switched back to the original straight boot wires.

The ones we have been selling, and list on our website, are straight boot wires which are fitting fine and we have NO reported problems with.

If anyone has any problems with these wires, which you WONT, MP can mail you a prepaid call tag label which will ship the wires back to MP at no cost to you and we'll get you a replacement, or refund.
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Old 02-13-2008, 06:11 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Cory Haines, I would like for you all to do a Dyno test using the same spark plug wires you all did the OHM test on. Please use and SRT-4.

Is this possible for Modern Performance to do?
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Old 02-19-2008, 06:47 PM   #40 (permalink)
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got my set today with new plugs... ive been having the typical missfiring under accelration problem that people sometimes get... will post results tomorrow.
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got my set today with new plugs... ive been having the typical missfiring under accelration problem that people sometimes get... will post results tomorrow.

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Old 02-21-2008, 06:21 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Installed my set of Granatelli wires + new champion platinum plugs yesterday... Seriously the whole thing took a half hour at MOST.
This resolved my misfiring under boost problem 100%. I cannot say whether the problem was plugs or wires. I can say the wires are all slightly longer than the stockers. They "feel" like higher quality wires than the stockers. This means higher gauge wire/silicon boots/etc all feel nice. There is also enough Diaelectric grease included with the wires for the install.
My problem is fixed so i'm a happy camper.
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^^^^ champions are the worst plugs for our cars
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Old 02-21-2008, 12:01 PM   #44 (permalink)
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No they're not. While the Champion's are far from the best quality automotive spark plug on the market, some cars, especially rich S2 cars, will get hiccups and ignition stumbles when running the only other copper plug available for our application (the NGK 4306). In those cases the Champion 570's at .040 work extremely well just like they do on most stock turbo SRT-4's. The overall construction quality of the NGK's is slightly nicer in my opinion and if your car runs well on them that's what I'd recommend for most people (especially big turbo owners or someone running a small shot of nitrous) since there seems to be less of a chance they'll fall apart under heavy detonation (which you do not want happening in the first place). If you gap the Champion's carefully and don't damage them prior/during install (which goes for all plugs) they shouldn't cause any problems. They're also inexpensive to keep a fresh set in the engine so you can monitor for changes in engine health and the tune.

All the platinum plugs should be avoided due to their extremely small and fouling-prone center electrodes. The first platinum plugs on the market many years ago from Bosch also had a habit of the ceramic breaking up under the higher cylinder pressures in turbocharged vehicles which is another reason they sometimes get a bad rap. A good quality platinum plug will work but won't last longer than a copper plug with how most people run (i.e. rich). That leaves you with expensive iridium plugs. They're pretty much one of the only options if you have a heavily modified car and need a diverse heat range to choose from. They work okay although they're still more prone to fouling than the copper plugs and the ground electrodes are the same as a copper plug and will still wear down at a similar rate.
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:53 PM   #45 (permalink)
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^^ what he said.. Im on stock turbo. These plugs will work fine and if they spoil quick they cost me ten bucks.
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