Differnce with a 50trim kit & hahn 20g - SRT Forums

Dusty · 01-21-2007, 07:43 PM

Looks like these two turbos are making about the same power (50 trim a little more), just woundering why the hahn 20G is cheaper in price?

FSRbikr98 · 01-21-2007, 07:55 PM

i believe its because the 20 g is a less expensive turbo, and if i remember correctly it is internally gated.

Dusty · 01-21-2007, 08:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by FSRbikr98

i believe its because the 20 g is a less expensive turbo

That was an easy answer, I just cant decide the way to go 50trim or 20g

**jts323** · 01-21-2007, 08:13 PM

go with a dbb from agp and you will never look back plus make more power then the 20g

FSRbikr98 · 01-22-2007, 07:48 PM

i agree with the above poster, in engine/turbo/ignition section srt4btu i believe his sn is just maxed his 20g out at the ragged edge and got 425. A dbb 50 trim could do that barely breaking a sweat.

irishred · 01-23-2007, 12:49 AM

i was goin to go 20g but after researching i couldnt find many if any over 400hp (what i wanted at least) so i went 50 trim and i couldnt be happier!! (well maybe if i had DBB 50 trim) i might upgrade to that

bnice01 · 03-04-2007, 09:52 PM

20g will flow 46lbs/min

50 trim will flow 49lbs/min

since we a short revved try to get a turbo that will take advantage of our powerband. this is another reason why dbb 50trims and gt series make more power and have a stronger powerband.

Silverbullet99 · 03-04-2007, 10:59 PM

unless you plan on building your motor get the hahns 20g. You get great power and you dnt have to worry about getting into trouble with your engine falling apart.

Dusty · 03-04-2007, 11:04 PM

I know that the hahn turbos are both oil and water cooled, not sure if the 50trims are?

david2345 · 03-04-2007, 11:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Dusty

I know that the hahn turbos are both oil and water cooled, not sure if the 50trims are?

standard 50 trims are oil cooled and all GT series and DBB 50 trims are water and oil cooled.

Nasty_NAS · 03-05-2007, 12:04 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Silverbullet99

unless you plan on building your motor get the hahns 20g. You get great power and you dnt have to worry about getting into trouble with your engine falling apart.

this statement is dumb don't listen to this.. look if you want more power go with the 50.. true if you want to max out the 50 you need a bottom end but if ever want to you don't have to buy a new turbo. the hahn is great too but it is all on you

bnice01 · 03-05-2007, 09:55 AM

I have the 20g and its not to bad. like nasty nas said it all on you. I mean there are many 300hp srt's in the 11's. I know I am @ least close to 400 or a tab bit over. Another thing that plays a big factor is the tune. There are some 50trims out there that only put down little over 400 @ 25 lbs. There are some 20g's @ the same boost right there behind them or above. Do the research and determine what you want.

My opinion if I had the money @ the time when i bought the 20g I would went dbb 50trim or gt-3076r FTW

sundstrum · 03-05-2007, 10:03 AM

im gunna go with the gt3076r

onthedwnlow · 03-05-2007, 03:24 PM

the 20g is a older model less effective 50 trim
the highest power 20g barely made over 400 and most 50 trims will make 400 on pump gas
the 20g spools slower
the 20g will still use factory intakes
the 50 trim will need a clutch, 20g you could leave the boost alittle lower and keep the clutch

all personal wants

bnice01 · 03-05-2007, 05:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by onthedwnlow

the 20g is a older model less effective 50 trim
the highest power 20g barely made over 400 and most 50 trims will make 400 on pump gas
the 20g spools slower
the 20g will still use factory intakes
the 50 trim will need a clutch, 20g you could leave the boost alittle lower and keep the clutch

all personal wants

-20g will slip your stock clutch trust me @ 17lbs with a nice tune (Hell I seen stock turbo slip clutches)
-20g has made close to 440
-show me a 450+ dyno of a 50trim on pump gas with stock bottom end??
-funny I can reach full boost @ 3300-3500 with my ebc with little to no surge

again how much power do you kids need. look @ my sign that was on 21-22 lbs on 205 street tires. trap speed is good enough for 11's on day. Now I will take off 3-5 mph for dr's or slicks. speed still enough for 11's. now I am @ 25ish spinning to the top of third. Here is a vid to prove it:

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0...ca0175b549.htm

for the price IMO best bang for the buck. the only reason why I got the 20g is to be different everybody and there mom has a 50trim maybe there little brother too

no hard feelings and I hope no one takes this to heart

01-21-2007, 07:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dusty SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Member Number: 32662 Location: Washington Posts: 385	Differnce with a 50trim kit & hahn 20g Looks like these two turbos are making about the same power (50 trim a little more), just woundering why the hahn 20G is cheaper in price? __________________ s20g -> portfuel -> full supporting mods

01-21-2007, 07:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
FSRbikr98 SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Member Number: 22973 Location: Somewhere.... Posts: 802	i believe its because the 20 g is a less expensive turbo, and if i remember correctly it is internally gated. __________________ 2004 Flame Red SRT-4 Mods: Magnacore 7.5 MM plug wires - R.I.P.P. Mods Check Valve - AGP Dogbone motor mounts - AGP Transmission Mount - PT Performance wastegate - PTP 3inch Downpipe - Hallman Professional MBC - Exhaust Depot Hot side pipe - JMB UPP with HKS - CoolingMist Methanol/Water kit - SAFC II and tach driver - Hotchkis Springs - NGK AFX Wideband - 274hp/315tq @ 18psi

01-21-2007, 08:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
Dusty SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Member Number: 32662 Location: Washington Posts: 385	Quote: Originally Posted by FSRbikr98 i believe its because the 20 g is a less expensive turbo That was an easy answer, I just cant decide the way to go 50trim or 20g __________________ s20g -> portfuel -> full supporting mods Last edited by Dusty; 01-21-2007 at 08:05 PM.

01-21-2007, 08:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
jts323 Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Jul 2005 Member Number: 30793 Location: that spot,PA Posts: 444	go with a dbb from agp and you will never look back plus make more power then the 20g __________________ *ACR=A-lways C-rushin' R-ustangs* best mod in the car "driver" lol canon 50d,50mm 1.8,17-40L,28-135is

01-22-2007, 07:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
FSRbikr98 SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Member Number: 22973 Location: Somewhere.... Posts: 802	i agree with the above poster, in engine/turbo/ignition section srt4btu i believe his sn is just maxed his 20g out at the ragged edge and got 425. A dbb 50 trim could do that barely breaking a sweat. __________________ 2004 Flame Red SRT-4 Mods: Magnacore 7.5 MM plug wires - R.I.P.P. Mods Check Valve - AGP Dogbone motor mounts - AGP Transmission Mount - PT Performance wastegate - PTP 3inch Downpipe - Hallman Professional MBC - Exhaust Depot Hot side pipe - JMB UPP with HKS - CoolingMist Methanol/Water kit - SAFC II and tach driver - Hotchkis Springs - NGK AFX Wideband - 274hp/315tq @ 18psi

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01-23-2007, 12:49 AM	#6 (permalink)
irishred SRTforums Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Member Number: 35996 Location: St. Cloud, MN Posts: 646	i was goin to go 20g but after researching i couldnt find many if any over 400hp (what i wanted at least) so i went 50 trim and i couldnt be happier!! (well maybe if i had DBB 50 trim) i might upgrade to that

03-04-2007, 09:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
bnice01 SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Member Number: 34888 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 1,062	20g will flow 46lbs/min 50 trim will flow 49lbs/min since we a short revved try to get a turbo that will take advantage of our powerband. this is another reason why dbb 50trims and gt series make more power and have a stronger powerband. __________________ Garage Self Tuner Est. HP 400+

03-04-2007, 10:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
Silverbullet99 SRTforums Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Member Number: 36487 Location: COLORADO Posts: 712	unless you plan on building your motor get the hahns 20g. You get great power and you dnt have to worry about getting into trouble with your engine falling apart. __________________ 400 WHP or bust

03-04-2007, 11:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
Dusty SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Member Number: 32662 Location: Washington Posts: 385	I know that the hahn turbos are both oil and water cooled, not sure if the 50trims are? __________________ s20g -> portfuel -> full supporting mods

03-04-2007, 11:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
david2345 SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Member Number: 31840 Location: San Bernardino Posts: 627	Quote: Originally Posted by Dusty I know that the hahn turbos are both oil and water cooled, not sure if the 50trims are? standard 50 trims are oil cooled and all GT series and DBB 50 trims are water and oil cooled.

03-05-2007, 12:04 AM	#11 (permalink)
Nasty_NAS SRTforums Member Join Date: May 2004 Member Number: 11197 Location: ohio Posts: 1,610	Quote: Originally Posted by Silverbullet99 unless you plan on building your motor get the hahns 20g. You get great power and you dnt have to worry about getting into trouble with your engine falling apart. this statement is dumb don't listen to this.. look if you want more power go with the 50.. true if you want to max out the 50 you need a bottom end but if ever want to you don't have to buy a new turbo. the hahn is great too but it is all on you __________________ Agp dbb 50, Agp race fmic, Agp lhp, Dtec, rc 750s, Crane fire wires, screamin demon coil, jmb uhp & 3" cai, Tial bov, Twm sts w/stainless knob, DC strut tower bar, Injen turboback Lca Bushings w/ Rage Delrine, Cooling Mist stage 2 Inovative wideband w/xd-16 guage, Greddy TT Stewart Warner guages (Boost, EGT & Oil Pressure) Blue guages w/red line, Megan coilovers, Dcr Bottom end, dcr head comming soon

03-05-2007, 09:55 AM	#12 (permalink)
bnice01 SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Member Number: 34888 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 1,062	I have the 20g and its not to bad. like nasty nas said it all on you. I mean there are many 300hp srt's in the 11's. I know I am @ least close to 400 or a tab bit over. Another thing that plays a big factor is the tune. There are some 50trims out there that only put down little over 400 @ 25 lbs. There are some 20g's @ the same boost right there behind them or above. Do the research and determine what you want. My opinion if I had the money @ the time when i bought the 20g I would went dbb 50trim or gt-3076r FTW __________________ Garage Self Tuner Est. HP 400+

03-05-2007, 10:03 AM	#13 (permalink)
sundstrum SRTforums Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Member Number: 48899 Location: hauppauge Posts: 35	im gunna go with the gt3076r

03-05-2007, 03:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
onthedwnlow *Scammer* Join Date: Apr 2005 Member Number: 27125 Location: Brunswick,MD Posts: 6,520	the 20g is a older model less effective 50 trim the highest power 20g barely made over 400 and most 50 trims will make 400 on pump gas the 20g spools slower the 20g will still use factory intakes the 50 trim will need a clutch, 20g you could leave the boost alittle lower and keep the clutch all personal wants

03-05-2007, 05:16 PM	#15 (permalink)
bnice01 SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Member Number: 34888 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 1,062	Quote: Originally Posted by onthedwnlow the 20g is a older model less effective 50 trim the highest power 20g barely made over 400 and most 50 trims will make 400 on pump gas the 20g spools slower the 20g will still use factory intakes the 50 trim will need a clutch, 20g you could leave the boost alittle lower and keep the clutch all personal wants -20g will slip your stock clutch trust me @ 17lbs with a nice tune (Hell I seen stock turbo slip clutches) -20g has made close to 440 -show me a 450+ dyno of a 50trim on pump gas with stock bottom end?? -funny I can reach full boost @ 3300-3500 with my ebc with little to no surge again how much power do you kids need. look @ my sign that was on 21-22 lbs on 205 street tires. trap speed is good enough for 11's on day. Now I will take off 3-5 mph for dr's or slicks. speed still enough for 11's. now I am @ 25ish spinning to the top of third. Here is a vid to prove it: http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0...ca0175b549.htm for the price IMO best bang for the buck. the only reason why I got the 20g is to be different everybody and there mom has a 50trim maybe there little brother too no hard feelings and I hope no one takes this to heart __________________ Garage Self Tuner Est. HP 400+ Last edited by bnice01; 03-05-2007 at 05:18 PM.

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