Big wheel stage 3 dyno on e85 - Page 3 - SRT Forums

a853rox · 02-14-2013, 08:34 AM

When does it hit 20PSI? 3600-3700ish?

bratz_729 · 02-14-2013, 09:20 AM

I bet it's a blast on the street. I was toying around the idea of swapping to a big wheel s3 with my new motor

_Nick_ · 02-14-2013, 12:02 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor

I counldnt agree more. But 99% peeps get wrapped around. "Gotta make 400hp"

Like who?

Quote: Originally Posted by a853rox

When does it hit 20PSI? 3600-3700ish?

It should hit 20psi before 3K. But if the dyno operator isn't going WOT until 3K we won't know how fast the boost comes on. triangles, post up the graph(s)!

Is this in a base tune or full tune? What air intake?

Rhunter · 02-14-2013, 12:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor

I counldnt agree more. But 99% peeps get wrapped around. "Gotta make 400hp"

Yup.

I bet the power band on this thing is freaking sick!!! What's probably holding things up is the stock long block. Our heads suck arse!!.

Rhunter · 02-14-2013, 12:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by triangles

I do think there is something wrong with my car. But haven't nailed it down. My numbers on a stock s3 on pump were low but I belive that to be the fins that were chipped. I'm leaning towards compression or possible head problems

320 on pump is not low. That's actually a touch above average for a stock S3 turbofold.

tunerlover3 · 02-14-2013, 01:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by _Nick_

It should hit 20psi before 3K. But if the dyno operator isn't going WOT until 3K we won't know how fast the boost comes on. triangles, post up the graph(s)!

Is this in a base tune or full tune? What air intake?

A BW stage 3 making 20 PSI before 3 grand? Are you high nick? lol

triangles · 02-14-2013, 02:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by csufdrew

Would love a ride in it...where you located?

modesto ca anytime you want come on over and come for a ride

Quote: Originally Posted by SIX-SIX-SIX'ONE'NINE

Nice! It woulda been nice for you too swap out to a larger turbine like i said when you posted about your turbine wheel being chipped. Then, retune on the 4bars and youd have more leg room too let the turbo shine some more. I too run a 20g wheel along with a td06sl2r turbine like those found in the ef2/hta fpgreens and damn did changing from the stock td05hr clipped turbine too this larger turbine really make a difference. The 20g wheel i run is like that of what toofast82 is talking about with a smaller hub area, meaning more blade area between the circumfrence on the compressor wheel, and having extended tips. Its a kinugawa/kamak compressor wheel along with their "green" turbine wheel. I made 534/510@36-37psi. I have had my 40psi boost gauge pegged before but was lean but im sure the power was maybe 550. Great turbos. I substituted the mopar s3 for an evo9 turbo. But, nonetheless, despit my turbo having a larger comp cover, you should be able too make bigger numbers. Keep on the lookout for my build. Got something coming together in a couple months with a bigger turbo. Gotta love the different variances between the mopar s3/evo8&9 turbochargers.

i just want to stop at 450 that's what I keep telling my self

Quote: Originally Posted by a853rox

When does it hit 20PSI? 3600-3700ish?

yea about that the boost box seems to drag it out alittle bit but its full boost by 4100

Quote: Originally Posted by bratz_729

I bet it's a blast on the street. I was toying around the idea of swapping to a big wheel s3 with my new motor

do it crazy fun just take a look at suspension that is what's kills me

Quote: Originally Posted by _Nick_

Like who?

It should hit 20psi before 3K. But if the dyno operator isn't going WOT until 3K we won't know how fast the boost comes on. triangles, post up the graph(s)!

Is this in a base tune or full tune? What air intake?

yea 3k then wot. Is what he does .

Quote: Originally Posted by Rhunter

Yup.

I bet the power band on this thing is freaking sick!!! What's probably holding things up is the stock long block. Our heads suck arse!!.

yea I agree no mods done to long block yet

Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3

A BW stage 3 making 20 PSI before 3 grand? Are you high nick? lol

The intake I use is 3inch custom I did out of mandrel bend tubeing I have.

The app on my phone won't let me load the picsure it I can txt it to some some they can up load if they want to for me.

mole' · 02-14-2013, 05:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by triangles

No stock s3
47lbs 20g full pnp by Mole'

Quote: Originally Posted by toofast82

Nice numbers!
Billet compressor?
Do you have bnf done?

It's a cast 20g TD05 dual 6 blade comp wheel.

Curtis did say that out of the 3 dyno runs they could only get 1 full pass. Something was nothing right with the car. Car has much more in it tho.

triangles · 02-14-2013, 05:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mole'

It's a cast 20g TD05 dual 6 blade comp wheel.

Curtis did say that out of the 3 dyno runs they could only get 1 full pass. Something was nothing right with the car. Car has much more in it tho.

Yea this was only 1 run other 3 the boost box cut the boost cause of over spike
I'm going back Friday or Saturday. For another run hopefully with a 60mm throttle body and 4 bar sensor

_Nick_ · 02-14-2013, 06:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3

A BW stage 3 making 20 PSI before 3 grand? Are you high nick? lol

I may have been high...... I was wrong, I was thinking of my graph, but I was not far off. Only ~300 rpm's off. I made 20psi at 3200 RPM's

csufdrew · 02-14-2013, 06:54 PM

Nick what are your fuel mods?

SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using AutoGuide.C

TRPKelly · 02-14-2013, 07:18 PM

Here is a video from inside triangles'car before he turned up the boost, sorry for the camera bouncing, was a bumpy road lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu5c...e_gdata_player

Rhunter · 02-14-2013, 07:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by _Nick_

I may have been high...... I was wrong, I was thinking of my graph, but I was not far off. Only ~300 rpm's off. I made 20psi at 3200 RPM's

But Nick! That's not a good thing! That fast spool is most likely a bi-product of back pressure from a crappy manifold design. Hitting boost that quick IS costing you!

No free lunch my friend.

mole' · 02-14-2013, 08:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by triangles

Yea this was only 1 run other 3 the boost box cut the boost cause of over spike
I'm going back Friday or Saturday. For another run hopefully with a 60mm throttle body and 4 bar sensor

Do s datalog before then and send it to duster

Rhunter · 02-14-2013, 08:24 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by triangles

Yea this was only 1 run other 3 the boost box cut the boost cause of over spike
I'm going back Friday or Saturday. For another run hopefully with a 60mm throttle body and 4 bar sensor

The TB will not help much if any. The stock head is still a major restriction.

02-14-2013, 09:20 AM	#32 (permalink)
bratz_729 SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Member Number: 75591 Location: unionville,mo Posts: 798	Re: Big wheel stage 3 dyno on e85 I bet it's a blast on the street. I was toying around the idea of swapping to a big wheel s3 with my new motor __________________ Built Engine: Eagle/ Arias 8.75:1, Dcr strapped, Ported head w/ Crane 18's and Fidanza Gears. Turbo/Fuel: PTE 6262, DCR dual 044s, -8/-6 line Mindmelt 101 tuning Build Thread: http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f451...-build-617761/

02-14-2013, 12:02 PM	#33 (permalink)
_Nick_ Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Member Number: 8941 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 7,089	Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor I counldnt agree more. But 99% peeps get wrapped around. "Gotta make 400hp" Like who? Quote: Originally Posted by a853rox When does it hit 20PSI? 3600-3700ish? It should hit 20psi before 3K. But if the dyno operator isn't going WOT until 3K we won't know how fast the boost comes on. triangles, post up the graph(s)! Is this in a base tune or full tune? What air intake? __________________ 20G Stage 3 on E85: New data:384 hp 411 tq "Maybe I should just stick to bolt-ons." -Hitler I don't really want to wrench anymore. I'd rather detail.

02-14-2013, 12:05 PM	#34 (permalink)
Rhunter SRTforums Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Member Number: 36794 Location: LOCASH Posts: 10,487	Quote: Originally Posted by underSRTarmor I counldnt agree more. But 99% peeps get wrapped around. "Gotta make 400hp" Yup. I bet the power band on this thing is freaking sick!!! What's probably holding things up is the stock long block. Our heads suck arse!!. __________________ Nunca Levanta! EL RALFO RACING.COM "A Lotta turbo, Small motor, and a GO pedal!!!"

02-14-2013, 12:08 PM	#35 (permalink)
Rhunter SRTforums Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Member Number: 36794 Location: LOCASH Posts: 10,487	Quote: Originally Posted by triangles I do think there is something wrong with my car. But haven't nailed it down. My numbers on a stock s3 on pump were low but I belive that to be the fins that were chipped. I'm leaning towards compression or possible head problems 320 on pump is not low. That's actually a touch above average for a stock S3 turbofold. __________________ Nunca Levanta! EL RALFO RACING.COM "A Lotta turbo, Small motor, and a GO pedal!!!"

02-14-2013, 01:33 PM	#36 (permalink)
tunerlover3 Fresh Meat Moderator Join Date: Dec 2009 Member Number: 76568 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,617	Quote: Originally Posted by _Nick_ It should hit 20psi before 3K. But if the dyno operator isn't going WOT until 3K we won't know how fast the boost comes on. triangles, post up the graph(s)! Is this in a base tune or full tune? What air intake? A BW stage 3 making 20 PSI before 3 grand? Are you high nick? lol __________________ Diablo CMR tuner ~Dan~ 2004 Black Neon SRT4: E85 stock turbo SOLD 310HP 436TQ 2004 Eblue Neon SRT4: E85 5558 XXXHP XXXTQ

02-14-2013, 08:34 AM	#31 (permalink)
a853rox SRTforums Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Member Number: 1907 Location: In the shop! Posts: 3,583	When does it hit 20PSI? 3600-3700ish?

02-14-2013, 02:36 PM	#37 (permalink)
triangles SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Member Number: 80981 Location: riverbank ca Posts: 594	Re: Big wheel stage 3 dyno on e85 Quote: Originally Posted by csufdrew Would love a ride in it...where you located? modesto ca anytime you want come on over and come for a ride Quote: Originally Posted by SIX-SIX-SIX'ONE'NINE Nice! It woulda been nice for you too swap out to a larger turbine like i said when you posted about your turbine wheel being chipped. Then, retune on the 4bars and youd have more leg room too let the turbo shine some more. I too run a 20g wheel along with a td06sl2r turbine like those found in the ef2/hta fpgreens and damn did changing from the stock td05hr clipped turbine too this larger turbine really make a difference. The 20g wheel i run is like that of what toofast82 is talking about with a smaller hub area, meaning more blade area between the circumfrence on the compressor wheel, and having extended tips. Its a kinugawa/kamak compressor wheel along with their "green" turbine wheel. I made 534/510@36-37psi. I have had my 40psi boost gauge pegged before but was lean but im sure the power was maybe 550. Great turbos. I substituted the mopar s3 for an evo9 turbo. But, nonetheless, despit my turbo having a larger comp cover, you should be able too make bigger numbers. Keep on the lookout for my build. Got something coming together in a couple months with a bigger turbo. Gotta love the different variances between the mopar s3/evo8&9 turbochargers. i just want to stop at 450 that's what I keep telling my self Quote: Originally Posted by a853rox When does it hit 20PSI? 3600-3700ish? yea about that the boost box seems to drag it out alittle bit but its full boost by 4100 Quote: Originally Posted by bratz_729 I bet it's a blast on the street. I was toying around the idea of swapping to a big wheel s3 with my new motor do it crazy fun just take a look at suspension that is what's kills me Quote: Originally Posted by _Nick_ Like who? It should hit 20psi before 3K. But if the dyno operator isn't going WOT until 3K we won't know how fast the boost comes on. triangles, post up the graph(s)! Is this in a base tune or full tune? What air intake? yea 3k then wot. Is what he does . Quote: Originally Posted by Rhunter Yup. I bet the power band on this thing is freaking sick!!! What's probably holding things up is the stock long block. Our heads suck arse!!. yea I agree no mods done to long block yet Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3 A BW stage 3 making 20 PSI before 3 grand? Are you high nick? lol The intake I use is 3inch custom I did out of mandrel bend tubeing I have. The app on my phone won't let me load the picsure it I can txt it to some some they can up load if they want to for me. __________________ 05 flame red bw Stage 3 47lb 20g By Mole' *daily driven* E85

02-14-2013, 05:01 PM	#38 (permalink)
mole' Supporting Vendor (Gold) Join Date: Sep 2004 Member Number: 17477 Location: SoCal (760/661) Posts: 50,841	Quote: Originally Posted by triangles No stock s3 47lbs 20g full pnp by Mole' Quote: Originally Posted by toofast82 Nice numbers! Billet compressor? Do you have bnf done? It's a cast 20g TD05 dual 6 blade comp wheel. Curtis did say that out of the 3 dyno runs they could only get 1 full pass. Something was nothing right with the car. Car has much more in it tho. __________________ DCR spiced and Tuned by the Mad Scientist team Jay@N2MB and Nigel@BST (turbo666) Mole' (STOCK TURBO) 16g BWS setup #s 380hp+ and 444tq+ 11.7@122 1.71 60ft PM/email me for all your 16g/18g/20g BWS setup and DCR needs...... Darrell Cox Racing on facebook, 1-517-369-9636 10am-5pm est webstore... DCRSRT.com. email me at mole79@aol.com .

02-14-2013, 05:21 PM	#39 (permalink)
triangles SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Member Number: 80981 Location: riverbank ca Posts: 594	Re: Big wheel stage 3 dyno on e85 Quote: Originally Posted by mole' It's a cast 20g TD05 dual 6 blade comp wheel. Curtis did say that out of the 3 dyno runs they could only get 1 full pass. Something was nothing right with the car. Car has much more in it tho. Yea this was only 1 run other 3 the boost box cut the boost cause of over spike I'm going back Friday or Saturday. For another run hopefully with a 60mm throttle body and 4 bar sensor __________________ 05 flame red bw Stage 3 47lb 20g By Mole' *daily driven* E85

02-14-2013, 06:51 PM	#40 (permalink)
_Nick_ Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Member Number: 8941 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 7,089	Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3 A BW stage 3 making 20 PSI before 3 grand? Are you high nick? lol I may have been high...... I was wrong, I was thinking of my graph, but I was not far off. Only ~300 rpm's off. I made 20psi at 3200 RPM's __________________ 20G Stage 3 on E85: New data:384 hp 411 tq "Maybe I should just stick to bolt-ons." -Hitler I don't really want to wrench anymore. I'd rather detail.

02-14-2013, 06:54 PM	#41 (permalink)
csufdrew SRTforums Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Member Number: 1843 Location: CA Posts: 1,909	Re: Big wheel stage 3 dyno on e85 Nick what are your fuel mods? SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using AutoGuide.C __________________ Stage 3 turbo / E85 / SCT PRP 12.133 @ 120.490 MPH

02-14-2013, 07:18 PM	#42 (permalink)
TRPKelly SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Member Number: 90192 Location: Oakdale, CA Posts: 161	Re: Big wheel stage 3 dyno on e85 Here is a video from inside triangles'car before he turned up the boost, sorry for the camera bouncing, was a bumpy road lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu5c...e_gdata_player

02-14-2013, 07:54 PM	#43 (permalink)
Rhunter SRTforums Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Member Number: 36794 Location: LOCASH Posts: 10,487	Quote: Originally Posted by _Nick_ I may have been high...... I was wrong, I was thinking of my graph, but I was not far off. Only ~300 rpm's off. I made 20psi at 3200 RPM's But Nick! That's not a good thing! That fast spool is most likely a bi-product of back pressure from a crappy manifold design. Hitting boost that quick IS costing you! No free lunch my friend. __________________ Nunca Levanta! EL RALFO RACING.COM "A Lotta turbo, Small motor, and a GO pedal!!!"

02-14-2013, 08:17 PM	#44 (permalink)
mole' Supporting Vendor (Gold) Join Date: Sep 2004 Member Number: 17477 Location: SoCal (760/661) Posts: 50,841	Quote: Originally Posted by triangles Yea this was only 1 run other 3 the boost box cut the boost cause of over spike I'm going back Friday or Saturday. For another run hopefully with a 60mm throttle body and 4 bar sensor Do s datalog before then and send it to duster __________________ DCR spiced and Tuned by the Mad Scientist team Jay@N2MB and Nigel@BST (turbo666) Mole' (STOCK TURBO) 16g BWS setup #s 380hp+ and 444tq+ 11.7@122 1.71 60ft PM/email me for all your 16g/18g/20g BWS setup and DCR needs...... Darrell Cox Racing on facebook, 1-517-369-9636 10am-5pm est webstore... DCRSRT.com. email me at mole79@aol.com .

02-14-2013, 08:24 PM	#45 (permalink)
Rhunter SRTforums Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Member Number: 36794 Location: LOCASH Posts: 10,487	Quote: Originally Posted by triangles Yea this was only 1 run other 3 the boost box cut the boost cause of over spike I'm going back Friday or Saturday. For another run hopefully with a 60mm throttle body and 4 bar sensor The TB will not help much if any. The stock head is still a major restriction. __________________ Nunca Levanta! EL RALFO RACING.COM "A Lotta turbo, Small motor, and a GO pedal!!!"

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