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jimbean5006 · 02-14-2013, 12:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by n_charpy89

My goals for the car is to have a reliable, and all around fun car that I can use as a daily driver and take to the track a couple times a year.

Thats where im at with my car. Im looking into a bws 18g from mole possibly. but i cant find much info or a price

Ridin59vette · 02-14-2013, 12:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by jimbean5006

Thats where im at with my car. Im looking into a bws 18g from mole possibly. but i cant find much info or a price

Pm Him. Last time I knew they were around $500

jimbean5006 · 02-14-2013, 12:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ridin59vette

Pm Him. Last time I knew they were around $500

whats the capability of the 18g, anybody know? gotta be close or over 400hp right?
mole's sig says 16g and its over 400hp

Ridin59vette · 02-14-2013, 12:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by jimbean5006

whats the capability of the 18g, anybody know? gotta be close or over 400hp right?

With the tune set to kill maybe. Closer to 360 If you want it to last. That's assuming racegas/E85

Ridin59vette · 02-14-2013, 12:29 PM

I dont think mole made 400. I think it was high 380's. With the tq in the 400's

jimbean5006 · 02-14-2013, 12:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ridin59vette

With the tune set to kill maybe. Closer to 360 If you want it to last. That's assuming racegas/E85

well id like 350whp on pump and room to grow so maybe 20g wheel it is lol

Ridin59vette · 02-14-2013, 12:31 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by jimbean5006

well id like 350whp on pump and room to grow so maybe 20g wheel it is lol

Find a Stage 3 or go big turbo.

jimbean5006 · 02-14-2013, 12:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Ridin59vette

Find a Stage 3 or go big turbo.

20g is close or at stg no?

Ridin59vette · 02-14-2013, 12:39 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by jimbean5006

20g is close or at stg no?

Do you mean the hahn 20G Kit or a BWS with a 20G wheel? Because they are completely different animals

enginjoe · 02-14-2013, 01:03 PM

From everything he has said, he needs a stage 3, hahn 20g, or big turbo kit. I would pick stage 3 if you could find one reasonably priced, but if you can't wait, big turbo is great.

n_charpy89 · 02-14-2013, 01:14 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by daredevil5692

Check this place out, I think you can save some money buying this and still getting your power needs in
Hahn Racecraft - Automotive Turbosystems

Also, you don't need that six puck if you're going to be limited by the engine itself. Our engines can only handle around 425 whp max. Some people go over, but without a rebuild, it's a gamble.
I would recommend these clutches, they are not any stiffer than stock, but they have incredible hold and have intermediate torque levels.
For example, the spec clutch stage 2+ holds 450 lb ft of torque and is sub $500s. It is a crazy deal. Also it comes with a flywheel since it is a modular clutch. Also no chatter like with the ACTs.

03-05 SRT-4 SPEC Staged Clutch & Flywheel Kits: JSC Speed

But what are your goals? Just fast drag car or autocross or just an awesome car?

I looked at those links, I think I will stick with the ACT clutch, but I'm going to go with the Street disc, and I don't know a lot about the Hahn Racecraft turbos, Is the 20g capable of more than the 425 hp mark?

Eventually I plan to build up the engine more, just not for a few years, I won't be driving the car every day.

Ridin59vette · 02-14-2013, 01:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by n_charpy89

I looked at those links, I think I will stick with the ACT clutch, but I'm going to go with the Street disc, and I don't know a lot about the Hahn Racecraft turbos, Is the 20g capable of more than the 425 hp mark?

Eventually I plan to build up the engine more, just not for a few years, I won't be driving the car every day.

They can get there. The problem with the hahn kits are they are internally gated and have a tiny 02 housing. If you plan on building the motor go with a Pte 5431 Or a similar kit that you can expand when you want to turn the wick up.

n_charpy89 · 02-14-2013, 01:30 PM

That's basically what I'm looking for, to get to the 400 hp mark, and still have room to grow without buying a new turbo all the time.

Ridin59vette · 02-14-2013, 01:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by n_charpy89

That's basically what I'm looking for, to get to the 400 hp mark, and still have room to grow without buying a new turbo all the time.

Get something bigger then the Hahn kit then.

jimbean5006 · 02-14-2013, 01:39 PM

i think 20g + meth would get it

02-14-2013, 12:21 PM	#47 (permalink)
Ridin59vette SRTforums Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Member Number: 86347 Location: Albany Posts: 1,091	Quote: Originally Posted by jimbean5006 Thats where im at with my car. Im looking into a bws 18g from mole possibly. but i cant find much info or a price Pm Him. Last time I knew they were around $500 __________________ 04 SRT-4: Under Construction 99 9-3: Daily Driver FS Thread: http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f416...5/#post9777568

02-14-2013, 12:25 PM	#48 (permalink)
jimbean5006 SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Member Number: 92096 Location: alabama Posts: 91	Quote: Originally Posted by Ridin59vette Pm Him. Last time I knew they were around $500 whats the capability of the 18g, anybody know? gotta be close or over 400hp right? mole's sig says 16g and its over 400hp Last edited by jimbean5006; 02-14-2013 at 12:27 PM.

02-14-2013, 12:26 PM	#49 (permalink)
Ridin59vette SRTforums Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Member Number: 86347 Location: Albany Posts: 1,091	Quote: Originally Posted by jimbean5006 whats the capability of the 18g, anybody know? gotta be close or over 400hp right? With the tune set to kill maybe. Closer to 360 If you want it to last. That's assuming racegas/E85 __________________ 04 SRT-4: Under Construction 99 9-3: Daily Driver FS Thread: http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f416...5/#post9777568

02-14-2013, 12:29 PM	#50 (permalink)
Ridin59vette SRTforums Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Member Number: 86347 Location: Albany Posts: 1,091	I dont think mole made 400. I think it was high 380's. With the tq in the 400's __________________ 04 SRT-4: Under Construction 99 9-3: Daily Driver FS Thread: http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f416...5/#post9777568

02-14-2013, 12:31 PM	#52 (permalink)
Ridin59vette SRTforums Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Member Number: 86347 Location: Albany Posts: 1,091	Quote: Originally Posted by jimbean5006 well id like 350whp on pump and room to grow so maybe 20g wheel it is lol Find a Stage 3 or go big turbo. __________________ 04 SRT-4: Under Construction 99 9-3: Daily Driver FS Thread: http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f416...5/#post9777568

02-14-2013, 12:18 PM	#46 (permalink)
jimbean5006 SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Member Number: 92096 Location: alabama Posts: 91	Quote: Originally Posted by n_charpy89 My goals for the car is to have a reliable, and all around fun car that I can use as a daily driver and take to the track a couple times a year. Thats where im at with my car. Im looking into a bws 18g from mole possibly. but i cant find much info or a price

02-14-2013, 12:29 PM	#51 (permalink)
jimbean5006 SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Member Number: 92096 Location: alabama Posts: 91	Quote: Originally Posted by Ridin59vette With the tune set to kill maybe. Closer to 360 If you want it to last. That's assuming racegas/E85 well id like 350whp on pump and room to grow so maybe 20g wheel it is lol

02-14-2013, 12:35 PM	#53 (permalink)
jimbean5006 SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Member Number: 92096 Location: alabama Posts: 91	Quote: Originally Posted by Ridin59vette Find a Stage 3 or go big turbo. 20g is close or at stg no?

02-14-2013, 12:39 PM	#54 (permalink)
Ridin59vette SRTforums Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Member Number: 86347 Location: Albany Posts: 1,091	Quote: Originally Posted by jimbean5006 20g is close or at stg no? Do you mean the hahn 20G Kit or a BWS with a 20G wheel? Because they are completely different animals __________________ 04 SRT-4: Under Construction 99 9-3: Daily Driver FS Thread: http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f416...5/#post9777568

02-14-2013, 01:03 PM	#55 (permalink)
enginjoe SRTforums Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Member Number: 3797 Location: Tucson Posts: 5,047	From everything he has said, he needs a stage 3, hahn 20g, or big turbo kit. I would pick stage 3 if you could find one reasonably priced, but if you can't wait, big turbo is great. __________________ 2003 SRT-4 Silver, AGP GT3076R on E85 DD! Was 478hp/508tq ----> Now ??? 2002 Camaro SS M6, going N/A...

02-14-2013, 01:14 PM	#56 (permalink)
n_charpy89 SRTforums Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Member Number: 82114 Location: New Prague, MN Posts: 269	Quote: Originally Posted by daredevil5692 Check this place out, I think you can save some money buying this and still getting your power needs in Hahn Racecraft - Automotive Turbosystems Also, you don't need that six puck if you're going to be limited by the engine itself. Our engines can only handle around 425 whp max. Some people go over, but without a rebuild, it's a gamble. I would recommend these clutches, they are not any stiffer than stock, but they have incredible hold and have intermediate torque levels. For example, the spec clutch stage 2+ holds 450 lb ft of torque and is sub $500s. It is a crazy deal. Also it comes with a flywheel since it is a modular clutch. Also no chatter like with the ACTs. 03-05 SRT-4 SPEC Staged Clutch & Flywheel Kits: JSC Speed But what are your goals? Just fast drag car or autocross or just an awesome car? I looked at those links, I think I will stick with the ACT clutch, but I'm going to go with the Street disc, and I don't know a lot about the Hahn Racecraft turbos, Is the 20g capable of more than the 425 hp mark? Eventually I plan to build up the engine more, just not for a few years, I won't be driving the car every day.

02-14-2013, 01:17 PM	#57 (permalink)
Ridin59vette SRTforums Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Member Number: 86347 Location: Albany Posts: 1,091	Quote: Originally Posted by n_charpy89 I looked at those links, I think I will stick with the ACT clutch, but I'm going to go with the Street disc, and I don't know a lot about the Hahn Racecraft turbos, Is the 20g capable of more than the 425 hp mark? Eventually I plan to build up the engine more, just not for a few years, I won't be driving the car every day. They can get there. The problem with the hahn kits are they are internally gated and have a tiny 02 housing. If you plan on building the motor go with a Pte 5431 Or a similar kit that you can expand when you want to turn the wick up. __________________ 04 SRT-4: Under Construction 99 9-3: Daily Driver FS Thread: http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f416...5/#post9777568

02-14-2013, 01:30 PM	#58 (permalink)
n_charpy89 SRTforums Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Member Number: 82114 Location: New Prague, MN Posts: 269	That's basically what I'm looking for, to get to the 400 hp mark, and still have room to grow without buying a new turbo all the time.

02-14-2013, 01:36 PM	#59 (permalink)
Ridin59vette SRTforums Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Member Number: 86347 Location: Albany Posts: 1,091	Quote: Originally Posted by n_charpy89 That's basically what I'm looking for, to get to the 400 hp mark, and still have room to grow without buying a new turbo all the time. Get something bigger then the Hahn kit then. __________________ 04 SRT-4: Under Construction 99 9-3: Daily Driver FS Thread: http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f416...5/#post9777568

02-14-2013, 01:39 PM	#60 (permalink)
jimbean5006 SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Member Number: 92096 Location: alabama Posts: 91	i think 20g + meth would get it

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