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Old 12-01-2005, 07:20 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by ruffian
With a big turbo you can always just run lower boost for daily driving and then just turn it up at the track. I was on the fence about the stg3 vs. big turbo. I was a little turned off by the wait on the stg3, but I'm sure it's really nice. I finally just decided on the big turbo. I like tinkering with stuff..can't wait for it to show up!

What kit, how much boost do you run at the track and what are your mods?
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:33 PM   #77 (permalink)
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High boost on pump gas = blown engine. ( unless you have fully built engine that can handle pump gas with higher boost)
Race gas - c16 + high boost =

That A1000 Aeromotive pump on startup sounds like when an airplane moving its flaps/brakes. I like.
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Quote: Originally Posted by brady
This is where I got the injector size.

http://www.iroczone.com/calcs/injectorsize.htm

I'm not sure on how it takes the boost made into account. My concern is that I get the proper size injectors for the application I am using.

How did you decide on 750's?

Sticky this would be great, I know the stage 3 guys have a sticky....

THey are the biggest avalible
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Old 12-04-2005, 08:12 AM   #79 (permalink)
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THey are the biggest avalible

You mean the 750cc injectors are the biggest "plug and play" available right?
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I ran a GT40 @ 26psi for about three months. I liked the hell out of it. Power band was more 'Supra*ish' than what it should have been.<---Meaning the car pulled like a mutha Fuxzor on the highway. Hard. Traction issues at 65+mph. 160+mph was something that could be done with ease(its was kinda cool to berry the needle) I was running the HP racing manifold and a 3in custom downpipe, with 750cc injectors and a walbro, controled with a SAFC II. I was running plenty rich. 11.1's across the rpm band. I would start to spool around 2500rpms and hit full boost right around 3700rpms, and when that happened it felt like all of hell was breaking lose. . I ended up hurting the motor tho after about 3 months. I cracked three of the four piston rings lands. So I'm now finishing up my second rebuild of the motor.(first one had some issues). My motor is 'fully built' now. Lots o DCR sh!t. PnP Head, cams and the whole nine. All in all tho I loved the way the car felt then, but I recently just bought a stock turbo replacement from a member here on the forums. I'm done with all those high hp numbers on a FWD car. Don't get me wrong neons, and all fwd cars for that matter have always been my thing, but I no longer wish to have a car that is fwd with that much powa. Just not usable and fun. If I coult start over again I would def. go with stage3R just for its simplicity. That and that only. 'Big turbo kits' are the way to go in my opinion if you want 'tunability' of your car versus bolt on and go. All in all....its really up to 'you' and what 'you' want.

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why did the motor blow need details, was it because u didnt remove b/s ass. or detonation, what was it? need to knowgoing on big boy boost in a week.


does anyone know where is this guy so he can answer my question.
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Old 12-05-2005, 09:21 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Sounds like he cracked the ring lands on 3 out of 4 pistons. Ring Lands - The ridge between ring grooves.

Cracking # 2 = no fun

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Fuel your brain with 8th grade and injectors...

http://www.rceng.com/technical.htm
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I have the gt 40 in a 1st gen, agp manifold, wastegate just dumped! I have a video of some pulls in the video section... if you want to hear what it sounds like when boostin.. the pulls were on 15psi.. a.f starts out at 10.6 when you intially get on it then at redline comes to about 11.3! I have the stock 04 injectors, and the fuel pressure is at about 75 right now?? But when the boost kicks in hold on! can be lots of fun! But its not my daily driver... could be if I wanted it to be! Suspension is just way to stiff!

If you want to know about the daily drivin ability of the setup on this car, if glen reads this post maybe he will tell you! The only difference is he was runnin the 750's and the safc.. at the time he had a 20psi boost gauge and said he burried it quick.. he figured he was runnin 20-22psi on 93 shell gas! very awesome and I cant wait till I get em back in the car!
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I called AGP today, with the intentions of buying a Mopar stage 3 kit later this week. I was going to give the guys at AGP the opportunity to change my mind. Holy Moly. Did they change my mind!?!?!? They told me about their stage 4 kit that came with everything, including a bolt on kitchen sink (okay FMIC). I want to know if this kit is everything they say it is. I am leaving my buying decisions to guys in this case. I have looked around, compared notes (my own), and almost decided that the AGP kit is the way to go. I get substantially more horsepower, even on low boost settings, a new intercooler, a new air intake, and more power for only a few hundred more than I would pay for the Mopar kit. I dont see where I could go wrong. CanI run this kit at 20lbs of boost as a daily driver? Can it be installed by three car guys with no turbo experience (one is a real life mechanic)? Is the intercooler a good intercooler? I am trusting you guys with my happiness. Is there anything I should know about this kit that they aren't going to tell me?

Thank you for your help. I hope to be big turbo'ed soon.
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Quote: Originally Posted by bluert
High boost on pump gas = blown engine. ( unless you have fully built engine that can handle pump gas with higher boost)
Race gas - c16 + high boost =

That A1000 Aeromotive pump on startup sounds like when an airplane moving its flaps/brakes. I like.

hmmm got a video?

also wheredo they sell this pump?

lots of great info in this thread.. ia gre make it a sticky.
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I called AGP today, with the intentions of buying a Mopar stage 3 kit later this week. I was going to give the guys at AGP the opportunity to change my mind. Holy Moly. Did they change my mind!?!?!? They told me about their stage 4 kit that came with everything, including a bolt on kitchen sink (okay FMIC). I want to know if this kit is everything they say it is. I am leaving my buying decisions to guys in this case. I have looked around, compared notes (my own), and almost decided that the AGP kit is the way to go. I get substantially more horsepower, even on low boost settings, a new intercooler, a new air intake, and more power for only a few hundred more than I would pay for the Mopar kit. I dont see where I could go wrong. CanI run this kit at 20lbs of boost as a daily driver? Can it be installed by three car guys with no turbo experience (one is a real life mechanic)? Is the intercooler a good intercooler? I am trusting you guys with my happiness. Is there anything I should know about this kit that they aren't going to tell me?

Thank you for your help. I hope to be big turbo'ed soon.

Did it come with a standalone - with a good base map, not that piggyback shit? If not, might as well wait or ignore it.

Really big turbo's are not at their full potential right now due to the lack of a proper standalone. Super Steve learned from his mistakes..
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Did it come with a standalone - with a good base map, not that piggyback shit? If not, might as well wait or ignore it.

Really big turbo's are not at their full potential right now due to the lack of a proper standalone. Super Steve learned from his mistakes..

I agree that they can produce more power and become easier to drive for day to day living with a standalone, but the piggybacks that are available are not "shit". Tuning has everything to do with good results.

What do you mean by "really big turbos"?
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Quote: Originally Posted by robbycee
I called AGP today, with the intentions of buying a Mopar stage 3 kit later this week. I was going to give the guys at AGP the opportunity to change my mind. Holy Moly. Did they change my mind!?!?!? They told me about their stage 4 kit that came with everything, including a bolt on kitchen sink (okay FMIC). I want to know if this kit is everything they say it is. I am leaving my buying decisions to guys in this case. I have looked around, compared notes (my own), and almost decided that the AGP kit is the way to go. I get substantially more horsepower, even on low boost settings, a new intercooler, a new air intake, and more power for only a few hundred more than I would pay for the Mopar kit. I dont see where I could go wrong. CanI run this kit at 20lbs of boost as a daily driver? Can it be installed by three car guys with no turbo experience (one is a real life mechanic)? Is the intercooler a good intercooler? I am trusting you guys with my happiness. Is there anything I should know about this kit that they aren't going to tell me?

Thank you for your help. I hope to be big turbo'ed soon.

The agp kit's are great, and include everything you could need. They even include anti-seze for the bolts. Now that's attention to detail. You should have no problems running 20 psi on a daily driver. Many have even gone up to like 22+. When it warms up a bit I'll start tweaking my set up, witch once straight I plan on running 24-25 psi on pump gas with w/i as a daily driver. Should be fun.

Oh and my kit was installed by me and jakencub, it's really easy to do.
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I agree that they can produce more power and become easier to drive for day to day living with a standalone, but the piggybacks that are available are not "shit". Tuning has everything to do with good results.

What do you mean by "really big turbos"?

I would assume that by really big he would mean like GT40's and bigger running like 30+ psi of boost. You shouldn't really NEED a standalone on most of the "big" turbo meaning like 50 trims etc. At least not for a street car. Many people have made 4-500 whp with piggy backs, so why spend the extra if that's all your looking to do?
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Piggybacks are just that, a bandaid.

Do it right and you'll notice a difference. No shit bro.

Hydra here, works well (I say that with out getting into the nitty gritty), will try the AEM next.
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