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nsrt4 · 12-04-2012, 06:26 PM

why does this guys 2 step sound crazy loud? Its almost like its not cutting fuel?

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**underSRTarmor** · 12-04-2012, 06:35 PM

Yes he has it wired to cut spark only.

nsrt4 · 12-04-2012, 06:36 PM

I might do this to mine.. What wire would I have to cut?

tunerlover3 · 12-04-2012, 06:37 PM

Thats not the N2MB wot box. He has the NDE traction control system.

**underSRTarmor** · 12-04-2012, 06:38 PM

Not 100% but I think u cut the green wire going to the coil.

benspilk09 · 12-04-2012, 06:43 PM

I wasn't aware the N2MB box did either, I wired mine up and didn't think any of the wires went to the fuel system. It still blows loads of black smoke out too so its definitely still getting fuel. I was under impression that the green wire to the coil wires were to cut ignition, the cam sensor wire to sense RPMs, and the TPS sensor wire to sense WOT, and of course the power/ground/clutch sensor wires are obvious.

tunerlover3 · 12-04-2012, 06:45 PM

To wire the N2MB wot box to just cut spark, the wires you use for the C101 connector need to go to the coil pack instead.

benspilk09 · 12-04-2012, 06:48 PM

I guess I assumed wrong, what does the wire on the C101 connector go to then? Does it cut fuel and spark when its grounded/disconnected?

tunerlover3 · 12-04-2012, 06:54 PM

There is a black and red wire on the N2MB that gets wired into the C101 connector. It controls coil power and the fuel injectors.

*ALEX* · 12-04-2012, 07:22 PM

their you go you ricer

all blacked out · 12-04-2012, 07:28 PM

Is it bad to just cut the spark? What would be the difference in cutting just spark and cutting both?

**underSRTarmor** · 12-04-2012, 07:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by all blacked out

Is it bad to just cut the spark? What would be the difference in cutting just spark and cutting both?

Cutting just spark u get alot of unburned fuel. Hence the pop bang pop pop bang.
The fuel injectors and the coil pack are controlled by the neg.(-). With ignition on there is a pos (+) supply on them as all times. The green/orange wire.

*ALEX* · 12-04-2012, 07:31 PM

no damage if you dont do them for extended periods of time (from N2MB ) ...... the only difference is Ricer and not Ricer

tunerlover3 · 12-04-2012, 07:33 PM

There is damage.

N2MB doesnt recommend it for people running E85.

Even if you wire it the normal way you will still get flames.

*ALEX* · 12-04-2012, 07:38 PM

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Quote: Originally Posted by phrozen

we do recommend the fuel and ignition cut on the srt.

However, we do ignition cut only on all other vehicles, with thousands of wot boxes installed and no problems to report.

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12-04-2012, 06:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
underSRTarmor Premium Member (Lifetime) SRT of the Month Join Date: Aug 2005 Member Number: 32888 Location: N. La/ E. Tx Posts: 7,682	Yes he has it wired to cut spark only. __________________ • MyBuild Thread • Duster360 Track Times List • PTE 5831 info • MAP Sensor info TUNED by DUSTER360 PTE 5831 11.19 @125.65 1.64 60ft 27 psi ^^^all clickable

12-04-2012, 06:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
tunerlover3 Fresh Meat Moderator Join Date: Dec 2009 Member Number: 76568 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,617	Thats not the N2MB wot box. He has the NDE traction control system. __________________ Diablo CMR tuner ~Dan~ 2004 Black Neon SRT4: E85 stock turbo SOLD 310HP 436TQ 2004 Eblue Neon SRT4: E85 5558 XXXHP XXXTQ

12-04-2012, 06:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
underSRTarmor Premium Member (Lifetime) SRT of the Month Join Date: Aug 2005 Member Number: 32888 Location: N. La/ E. Tx Posts: 7,682	Not 100% but I think u cut the green wire going to the coil. __________________ • MyBuild Thread • Duster360 Track Times List • PTE 5831 info • MAP Sensor info TUNED by DUSTER360 PTE 5831 11.19 @125.65 1.64 60ft 27 psi ^^^all clickable

12-04-2012, 06:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
benspilk09 SRTforums Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Member Number: 88421 Location: Missouri Posts: 580	I wasn't aware the N2MB box did either, I wired mine up and didn't think any of the wires went to the fuel system. It still blows loads of black smoke out too so its definitely still getting fuel. I was under impression that the green wire to the coil wires were to cut ignition, the cam sensor wire to sense RPMs, and the TPS sensor wire to sense WOT, and of course the power/ground/clutch sensor wires are obvious. __________________ Last edited by benspilk09; 12-04-2012 at 06:46 PM.

12-04-2012, 06:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
tunerlover3 Fresh Meat Moderator Join Date: Dec 2009 Member Number: 76568 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,617	To wire the N2MB wot box to just cut spark, the wires you use for the C101 connector need to go to the coil pack instead. __________________ Diablo CMR tuner ~Dan~ 2004 Black Neon SRT4: E85 stock turbo SOLD 310HP 436TQ 2004 Eblue Neon SRT4: E85 5558 XXXHP XXXTQ

12-04-2012, 06:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
nsrt4 SRTforums Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Member Number: 82349 Location: NY Posts: 551	I might do this to mine.. What wire would I have to cut?

12-04-2012, 06:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
benspilk09 SRTforums Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Member Number: 88421 Location: Missouri Posts: 580	I guess I assumed wrong, what does the wire on the C101 connector go to then? Does it cut fuel and spark when its grounded/disconnected? __________________

12-04-2012, 06:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
tunerlover3 Fresh Meat Moderator Join Date: Dec 2009 Member Number: 76568 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,617	There is a black and red wire on the N2MB that gets wired into the C101 connector. It controls coil power and the fuel injectors. __________________ Diablo CMR tuner ~Dan~ 2004 Black Neon SRT4: E85 stock turbo SOLD 310HP 436TQ 2004 Eblue Neon SRT4: E85 5558 XXXHP XXXTQ

12-04-2012, 07:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
ALEX SRTforums Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Member Number: 79647 Location: gh illinois Posts: 1,203	their you go you ricer __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by lVlemphizStylez When I open my hood people think the car is on all kinds of steroids

12-04-2012, 07:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
all blacked out SRTforums Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Member Number: 83410 Location: northern ky Posts: 187	Is it bad to just cut the spark? What would be the difference in cutting just spark and cutting both?

12-04-2012, 07:30 PM	#12 (permalink)
underSRTarmor Premium Member (Lifetime) SRT of the Month Join Date: Aug 2005 Member Number: 32888 Location: N. La/ E. Tx Posts: 7,682	Quote: Originally Posted by all blacked out Is it bad to just cut the spark? What would be the difference in cutting just spark and cutting both? Cutting just spark u get alot of unburned fuel. Hence the pop bang pop pop bang. The fuel injectors and the coil pack are controlled by the neg.(-). With ignition on there is a pos (+) supply on them as all times. The green/orange wire. __________________ • MyBuild Thread • Duster360 Track Times List • PTE 5831 info • MAP Sensor info TUNED by DUSTER360 PTE 5831 11.19 @125.65 1.64 60ft 27 psi ^^^all clickable Last edited by underSRTarmor; 12-04-2012 at 07:33 PM.

12-04-2012, 07:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
ALEX SRTforums Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Member Number: 79647 Location: gh illinois Posts: 1,203	no damage if you dont do them for extended periods of time (from N2MB ) ...... the only difference is Ricer and not Ricer __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by lVlemphizStylez When I open my hood people think the car is on all kinds of steroids

12-04-2012, 07:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
tunerlover3 Fresh Meat Moderator Join Date: Dec 2009 Member Number: 76568 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,617	There is damage. N2MB doesnt recommend it for people running E85. Even if you wire it the normal way you will still get flames. __________________ Diablo CMR tuner ~Dan~ 2004 Black Neon SRT4: E85 stock turbo SOLD 310HP 436TQ 2004 Eblue Neon SRT4: E85 5558 XXXHP XXXTQ

12-04-2012, 07:38 PM	#15 (permalink)
ALEX SRTforums Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Member Number: 79647 Location: gh illinois Posts: 1,203	.... .. Quote: Originally Posted by phrozen we do recommend the fuel and ignition cut on the srt. However, we do ignition cut only on all other vehicles, with thousands of wot boxes installed and no problems to report. . __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by lVlemphizStylez When I open my hood people think the car is on all kinds of steroids

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