16G Big wheel stocker VS E1 Turbo - Page 24 - SRT Forums

**Zenkat** · 08-04-2012, 05:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by igotboost05

By Delta44 I was wrong..........I am talking about the BIG ass fuel pump.......Bosch???

Yeah, dont really need a bosch with modded stockers. A walbro with a rewire, returnline, 1025 injectors, bottleneck fix should supply enough fuel for 400+ on e85.

mole' · 11-21-2012, 03:19 PM

Forgot about this thread.

For anyone looking.

16g bws with upgraded thrust bearing and warranty for $550

mole' · 11-21-2012, 03:22 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by igotboost05

Could 20psi be held with..........
BWS or E1 with stock stuff(mani, inj, ect.) race fuel, rewire..........

........and BEST tight ass TUNE in the world?
Can it be done?

I got $250 for can get it done.....oh and all I have is DSP for the logs, so AFRs->camera?

I know its an old post, but just to clear it up. Your NOT gonna hold 20psi on a stock ext mani. I hold 21.8psi with my race/elbow modded mani with an AGP wga.

mole' · 11-21-2012, 03:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by igotboost05

okay, i will need 3bar to spike that high? All i have now is:

E1, rewire, FM WSG, DSP, N2MB, 3" open DP and 111 leaded.......no tune loaded yet
are 11's possible?

If i add Dave's 1025cc and tune.......are 11's possible?

Driver mod, i dunno.........check my channel igotboost05 and look for green dash in vid. that is latest.

I only know of 1 e1 turbo to run a 11sec pass. It was 93stang.

zman17 · 11-21-2012, 04:41 PM

With a e1 would it be any more beneficial to run an external wastegate or is that just. "Noise maker"?

cdd27616 · 11-21-2012, 06:31 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mole'

I know its an old post, but just to clear it up. Your NOT gonna hold 20psi on a stock ext mani. I hold 21.8psi with my race/elbow modded mani with an AGP wga.

Maybe with a little help from w/i.

tunerlover3 · 11-22-2012, 06:56 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by zman17

With a e1 would it be any more beneficial to run an external wastegate or is that just. "Noise maker"?

An EWG manifold would be good for a BWS. The more flow, the less EGT's, the better for those tiny turbos.

But I held 20 PSI on my stock manifold on a E1

zman17 · 11-22-2012, 06:59 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3

An EWG manifold would be good for a BWS. The more flow, the less EGT's, the better for those tiny turbos.

But I held 20 PSI on my stock manifold on a E1

I mean eventually(hopefully tax time) go big turbo. If I dont however this was something I debated on doing. Who makes ewg mani or are they completely custom?

tunerlover3 · 11-22-2012, 07:01 AM

They are custom and theres a few people that still make them.

DCR, FM still has the enforcer manifold I think, SDK has a few different ones, etc etc.

I will have one for sale soon.

zman17 · 11-22-2012, 07:02 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3

They are custom and theres a few people that still make them.

DCR, FM still has the enforcer manifold I think, SDK has a few different ones, etc etc.

I will have one for sale soon.

Shoot me a pm with a price when your ready to sell

chicagoskittle · 11-22-2012, 07:04 AM

I mite be selling one too with the 38mm wastegate,no dump tube..

zman17 · 11-22-2012, 07:06 AM

Agp or Tial wg?

chicagoskittle · 11-22-2012, 07:08 AM

I have a knock off and a brand new tial with 7psi,15 and 20 psi spring

zman17 · 11-22-2012, 07:17 AM

pm me and we can talk more when you are ready

**viper gts** · 11-22-2012, 09:20 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3

An EWG manifold would be good for a BWS. The more flow, the less EGT's, the better for those tiny turbos.

But I held 20 PSI on my stock manifold on a E1

My E1 holds 20 then starts to drop down towards 16 PSI in third gear as the rpms insrease. Is this a sign my stock WGA is not holding boost? (PCM)

View Poll Results: What set-up do you have?
Bone Stock Turbo	41	14.09%
Mopar Stage 1 Set-up	16	5.50%
Mopar Stage 2 Set-up	26	8.93%
Mopar Stage 3 Set-up	27	9.28%
Stock Turbo DSP with minor mods	63	21.65%
Stock Turbo DSP,Full Bolt ons,Tuned,Meth injection	25	8.59%
E1 Turbo or Big wheel stocker Set-up	47	16.15%
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08-04-2012, 05:50 PM	#346 (permalink)
Zenkat Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Apr 2004 Member Number: 10522 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 2,057	Quote: Originally Posted by igotboost05 By Delta44 I was wrong..........I am talking about the BIG ass fuel pump.......Bosch??? Yeah, dont really need a bosch with modded stockers. A walbro with a rewire, returnline, 1025 injectors, bottleneck fix should supply enough fuel for 400+ on e85. __________________ 11.21@127.88

11-21-2012, 03:19 PM	#347 (permalink)
mole' Supporting Vendor (Gold) Join Date: Sep 2004 Member Number: 17477 Location: SoCal (760/661) Posts: 50,883	Forgot about this thread. For anyone looking. 16g bws with upgraded thrust bearing and warranty for $550 __________________ DCR spiced and Tuned by the Mad Scientist team Jay@N2MB and Nigel@BST (turbo666) Mole' (STOCK TURBO) 16g BWS setup #s 380hp+ and 444tq+ 11.7@122 1.71 60ft PM/email me for all your 16g/18g/20g BWS setup and DCR needs...... Darrell Cox Racing on facebook, 1-517-369-9636 10am-5pm est webstore... DCRSRT.com. email me at mole79@aol.com .

11-21-2012, 03:22 PM	#348 (permalink)
mole' Supporting Vendor (Gold) Join Date: Sep 2004 Member Number: 17477 Location: SoCal (760/661) Posts: 50,883	Quote: Originally Posted by igotboost05 Could 20psi be held with.......... BWS or E1 with stock stuff(mani, inj, ect.) race fuel, rewire.......... ........and BEST tight ass TUNE in the world? Can it be done? I got $250 for can get it done.....oh and all I have is DSP for the logs, so AFRs->camera? I know its an old post, but just to clear it up. Your NOT gonna hold 20psi on a stock ext mani. I hold 21.8psi with my race/elbow modded mani with an AGP wga. __________________ DCR spiced and Tuned by the Mad Scientist team Jay@N2MB and Nigel@BST (turbo666) Mole' (STOCK TURBO) 16g BWS setup #s 380hp+ and 444tq+ 11.7@122 1.71 60ft PM/email me for all your 16g/18g/20g BWS setup and DCR needs...... Darrell Cox Racing on facebook, 1-517-369-9636 10am-5pm est webstore... DCRSRT.com. email me at mole79@aol.com .

11-21-2012, 03:25 PM	#349 (permalink)
mole' Supporting Vendor (Gold) Join Date: Sep 2004 Member Number: 17477 Location: SoCal (760/661) Posts: 50,883	Quote: Originally Posted by igotboost05 okay, i will need 3bar to spike that high? All i have now is: E1, rewire, FM WSG, DSP, N2MB, 3" open DP and 111 leaded.......no tune loaded yet are 11's possible? If i add Dave's 1025cc and tune.......are 11's possible? Driver mod, i dunno.........check my channel igotboost05 and look for green dash in vid. that is latest. I only know of 1 e1 turbo to run a 11sec pass. It was 93stang. __________________ DCR spiced and Tuned by the Mad Scientist team Jay@N2MB and Nigel@BST (turbo666) Mole' (STOCK TURBO) 16g BWS setup #s 380hp+ and 444tq+ 11.7@122 1.71 60ft PM/email me for all your 16g/18g/20g BWS setup and DCR needs...... Darrell Cox Racing on facebook, 1-517-369-9636 10am-5pm est webstore... DCRSRT.com. email me at mole79@aol.com .

11-21-2012, 04:41 PM	#350 (permalink)
zman17 SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Member Number: 87469 Location: springfield Il Posts: 793	With a e1 would it be any more beneficial to run an external wastegate or is that just. "Noise maker"? __________________ MODS: garret 60-1 trim kit Tial wastegate ATP o2 and manifold ,boost box,return line, AEM CAI, wally 255, innovative motor sports wideband, dusters injectors, Godspeed BFMIC, tuned by duster360 for gas and e-85

11-21-2012, 06:31 PM	#351 (permalink)
cdd27616 SRTforums Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Member Number: 57729 Location: NC Posts: 108	Quote: Originally Posted by mole' I know its an old post, but just to clear it up. Your NOT gonna hold 20psi on a stock ext mani. I hold 21.8psi with my race/elbow modded mani with an AGP wga. Maybe with a little help from w/i. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Auto \| S1 \| 16G BWS turbo \| 1025 cc injectors \| AFE Stage 2 Pro 5r \| Hexalogger \| S2 wastegate controlled by PCM \| 3"o2 \| 3"cat \| 3"DP \| 2 1/4"catback \| plastic intake \| W/I \| DSP Duster360 E85 & gas tunes \| Boomba BOV

11-22-2012, 06:56 AM	#352 (permalink)
tunerlover3 Fresh Meat Moderator Join Date: Dec 2009 Member Number: 76568 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,617	Quote: Originally Posted by zman17 With a e1 would it be any more beneficial to run an external wastegate or is that just. "Noise maker"? An EWG manifold would be good for a BWS. The more flow, the less EGT's, the better for those tiny turbos. But I held 20 PSI on my stock manifold on a E1 __________________ Diablo CMR tuner ~Dan~ 2004 Black Neon SRT4: E85 stock turbo SOLD 310HP 436TQ 2004 Eblue Neon SRT4: E85 5558 XXXHP XXXTQ

11-22-2012, 06:59 AM	#353 (permalink)
zman17 SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Member Number: 87469 Location: springfield Il Posts: 793	Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3 An EWG manifold would be good for a BWS. The more flow, the less EGT's, the better for those tiny turbos. But I held 20 PSI on my stock manifold on a E1 I mean eventually(hopefully tax time) go big turbo. If I dont however this was something I debated on doing. Who makes ewg mani or are they completely custom? __________________ MODS: garret 60-1 trim kit Tial wastegate ATP o2 and manifold ,boost box,return line, AEM CAI, wally 255, innovative motor sports wideband, dusters injectors, Godspeed BFMIC, tuned by duster360 for gas and e-85

11-22-2012, 07:01 AM	#354 (permalink)
tunerlover3 Fresh Meat Moderator Join Date: Dec 2009 Member Number: 76568 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,617	They are custom and theres a few people that still make them. DCR, FM still has the enforcer manifold I think, SDK has a few different ones, etc etc. I will have one for sale soon. __________________ Diablo CMR tuner ~Dan~ 2004 Black Neon SRT4: E85 stock turbo SOLD 310HP 436TQ 2004 Eblue Neon SRT4: E85 5558 XXXHP XXXTQ

11-22-2012, 07:02 AM	#355 (permalink)
zman17 SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Member Number: 87469 Location: springfield Il Posts: 793	Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3 They are custom and theres a few people that still make them. DCR, FM still has the enforcer manifold I think, SDK has a few different ones, etc etc. I will have one for sale soon. Shoot me a pm with a price when your ready to sell __________________ MODS: garret 60-1 trim kit Tial wastegate ATP o2 and manifold ,boost box,return line, AEM CAI, wally 255, innovative motor sports wideband, dusters injectors, Godspeed BFMIC, tuned by duster360 for gas and e-85

11-22-2012, 07:04 AM	#356 (permalink)
chicagoskittle SRTforums Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Member Number: 82263 Location: chicago Posts: 1,365	I mite be selling one too with the 38mm wastegate,no dump tube.. __________________ Tuned by Brian (Mindmelt101)

11-22-2012, 07:06 AM	#357 (permalink)
zman17 SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Member Number: 87469 Location: springfield Il Posts: 793	Agp or Tial wg? __________________ MODS: garret 60-1 trim kit Tial wastegate ATP o2 and manifold ,boost box,return line, AEM CAI, wally 255, innovative motor sports wideband, dusters injectors, Godspeed BFMIC, tuned by duster360 for gas and e-85

11-22-2012, 07:08 AM	#358 (permalink)
chicagoskittle SRTforums Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Member Number: 82263 Location: chicago Posts: 1,365	I have a knock off and a brand new tial with 7psi,15 and 20 psi spring __________________ Tuned by Brian (Mindmelt101)

11-22-2012, 07:17 AM	#359 (permalink)
zman17 SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Member Number: 87469 Location: springfield Il Posts: 793	pm me and we can talk more when you are ready __________________ MODS: garret 60-1 trim kit Tial wastegate ATP o2 and manifold ,boost box,return line, AEM CAI, wally 255, innovative motor sports wideband, dusters injectors, Godspeed BFMIC, tuned by duster360 for gas and e-85

11-22-2012, 09:20 AM	#360 (permalink)
viper gts Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Apr 2011 Member Number: 83983 Location: vernon ct Posts: 638	Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3 An EWG manifold would be good for a BWS. The more flow, the less EGT's, the better for those tiny turbos. But I held 20 PSI on my stock manifold on a E1 My E1 holds 20 then starts to drop down towards 16 PSI in third gear as the rpms insrease. Is this a sign my stock WGA is not holding boost? (PCM)

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