Wheel bearing...and the HUB? - SRT Forums

s3*ps2 · 05-20-2008, 09:36 AM

Does the hub need to be replaced with the wheel bearing? Is it a good idea to do so and make the job easier? I say this because I noticed wheel bearing play in my drivers side. It hasn't made any noises yet but it will eventually come to that point and I want to get it fixed here in a bit.

Just for reference....

Front wheel bearing at the dealership is $75. Part number 5272448AA
S&P sells them for $55.57

Front wheel hub is $60 at the dealership. Part number 4670292AF
S&P sells them for $43.86

NogaBlitz · 05-20-2008, 09:56 AM

Also would like to know the answer to this.

Fischy · 05-20-2008, 10:19 AM

The hub won't need to be replaced, unless it was damaged during the bearing pull process.
I just had some autozone timkin ($31 each) bearings installed in my knuckles / hubs for $35 per side. The hubs feel nice and slightly snug when rotated.

FYI my front left bearing went at 95,000 miles, which includes a lot of mountain driving.

Steve

boost_SRT4 · 05-20-2008, 10:41 AM

i would go ahead an replace both i just ran into 1000 dollars worth of suspension repair because of these issues. my exhaust was too loud to hear the noise, then it was too late

**Monster** · 05-20-2008, 10:51 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by boost_SRT4

i would go ahead an replace both i just ran into 1000 dollars worth of suspension repair because of these issues. my exhaust was too loud to hear the noise, then it was too late

Care to elaborate? Ive needed bearings for awhile i suspect some play and Im a little lost as to how that can happen

**1LAPSRT** · 05-20-2008, 10:51 AM

I would go ahead and spend the extra $90 and get two new front hubs as well. If you are doing all the work and then something goes wrong with the old hub, you have to do all the work again and buy another bearing. And don't forget you get all new wheel studs already installed in the hubs when you buy them!

I replace all four hubs/bearings at least twice a year, but my car is mostly just for track use.

**1LAPSRT** · 05-20-2008, 10:52 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MonsterLemon

Care to elaborate? Ive needed bearings for awhile i suspect some play and Im a little lost as to how that can happen

I suppose that if the rear's were bad, he could have chewed up the spindle assembly(s)? Other than that, I can't imagine what would cause $1,000 damage due to a worn bearing.

dodgetech81 · 05-20-2008, 10:56 AM

when you press the hub out of the bearing the outter bearing race is going to still be pressed to the hub.you need a special tool to catch the edge of the race and press it off the hub.or you can cut most the way through the race and crack it with a chisel.it can pose to be a pain in the ass if you dont have the right tools.so if this is a driveway job id just save yourself the agrivation and buy new hubs also.

**1LAPSRT** · 05-20-2008, 11:07 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by dodgetech81

when you press the hub out of the bearing the outter bearing race is going to still be pressed to the hub.you need a special tool to catch the edge of the race and press it off the hub.or you can cut most the way through the race and crack it with a chisel.it can pose to be a pain in the ass if you dont have the right tools.so if this is a driveway job id just save yourself the agrivation and buy new hubs also.

I wouldn't even attempt the bearing removal without a press. If you don't have one (and some bearing press tools) I would take the whole knuckle to a machine shop and have them do the work for you. Just bring the new hub and bearing and it should take them about 15 minutes, assuming they know what they are doing.

s3*ps2 · 05-20-2008, 02:07 PM

I don't plan on doing it. I plan on having a local shop do it. So would it be more in labor for them to replace the hub with the bearing? And No I don't want to replace something that doesn't need to be replaced. (The right side) Once it starts getting play I will replace that side.

I also read they upgraded from a tappered roller bearing to a ball bearing. Could be the other way around.

My buddy only had 28k on his and both of them went out! FYI.

My car is a daily driver too BTW, not a track car.

Quote:

I just had some autozone timkin ($31 each) bearings installed in my knuckles / hubs for $35 per side. The hubs feel nice and slightly snug when rotated.

They only charged you $35 to install a bearing!@?!?!?

**1LAPSRT** · 05-20-2008, 02:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by raul-01

I don't plan on doing it. I plan on having a local shop do it. So would it be more in labor for them to replace the hub with the bearing? And No I don't want to replace something that doesn't need to be replaced. (The right side) Once it starts getting play I will replace that side.

I also read they upgraded from a tappered roller bearing to a ball bearing. Could be the other way around.

My buddy only had 28k on his and both of them went out! FYI.

My car is a daily driver too BTW, not a track car.

They only charged you $35 to install a bearing!@?!?!?

You have to remove the hub from the spindle and press off the bearing (or at least half) to replace the bearing, so in all reality, it is less labor if you replace the hub as well, since they don't have to worry about removing the bearing from the hub, just the spindle housing.

I paid $30 to install both bearing and both hubs in my knuckles. Of course I carried the spindle to a machine shop after I removed them from the car and reinstalled them later myself as well. It took the machine shop 10, maybe 15 minutes to do all the work.

fivetoez · 05-20-2008, 04:37 PM

I just changed my L.F. wheel bearing, & YES! i HAD to replace the hub...... because the inner section of the hub,where the inner bearing race sits,was worn badly.

Fischy · 05-20-2008, 04:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by raul-01

I don't plan on doing it. I plan on having a local shop do it. So would it be more in labor for them to replace the hub with the bearing? And No I don't want to replace something that doesn't need to be replaced. (The right side) Once it starts getting play I will replace that side.

I also read they upgraded from a tappered roller bearing to a ball bearing. Could be the other way around.

My buddy only had 28k on his and both of them went out! FYI.

My car is a daily driver too BTW, not a track car.

They only charged you $35 to install a bearing!@?!?!?

Yes, I brought in two stock knuckle assemblies and two new timkin bearings. One hour later my knuckles / hubs have the fresh bearings installed for $70 total cost.
Just a local automotive machine shop.

Steve

s3*ps2 · 05-20-2008, 10:52 PM

Ahhh okay! I thought you brought your car in there and they took it apart and put it back together for $35 a side. I shall order the hub too.

stranacksrt4 · 02-26-2010, 11:55 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by s3*ps2

Ahhh okay! I thought you brought your car in there and they took it apart and put it back together for $35 a side. I shall order the hub too.

where are you ordering the bearing and hub from i need one aswell. thanks

05-20-2008, 09:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
s3ps2 SRTforums Member* Join Date: Jul 2005 Member Number: 31038 Location: Gardner, KS Posts: 5,033	Wheel bearing...and the HUB? Does the hub need to be replaced with the wheel bearing? Is it a good idea to do so and make the job easier? I say this because I noticed wheel bearing play in my drivers side. It hasn't made any noises yet but it will eventually come to that point and I want to get it fixed here in a bit. Just for reference.... Front wheel bearing at the dealership is $75. Part number 5272448AA S&P sells them for $55.57 Front wheel hub is $60 at the dealership. Part number 4670292AF S&P sells them for $43.86 __________________ 04 Neon SRT-4 Mopar S3, DSP, 888cc injectors, Dusters tune, Walbro 255 w/ S3 fuel system. NO rewire. e70 397whp/398tq 128k miles 99 Neon Highline Coupe MPG Daily 2.0 DOHC, 5spd

05-20-2008, 09:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
NogaBlitz SRTforums Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Member Number: 6194 Location: Cali Posts: 2,990	Also would like to know the answer to this. __________________ -Stand tall and shake the heavens.

05-20-2008, 10:19 AM	#3 (permalink)
Fischy SRTforums Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Member Number: 20133 Location: Kali Posts: 1,088	The hub won't need to be replaced, unless it was damaged during the bearing pull process. I just had some autozone timkin ($31 each) bearings installed in my knuckles / hubs for $35 per side. The hubs feel nice and slightly snug when rotated. FYI my front left bearing went at 95,000 miles, which includes a lot of mountain driving. Steve __________________ LCR GreenSpec S3, Everything Ported, DSP & CM W/M injection.

05-20-2008, 10:41 AM	#4 (permalink)
boost_SRT4 SRTforums Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Member Number: 3514 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 776	i would go ahead an replace both i just ran into 1000 dollars worth of suspension repair because of these issues. my exhaust was too loud to hear the noise, then it was too late __________________ 04 E Blue SRT4 BDJ's 3in dump(no cat) / AGP wastegate spike 19hold 17 / MM inserts / magnacore 8.5mm wires / gunmetal 18x8 Exel Ennios w/235/40/18 / K&N CAI / CCA FMIC / d-tec / aeroforce scan guage / AEM UGEO / Stg.2 inj.

05-20-2008, 10:51 AM	#5 (permalink)
Monster Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Dec 2006 Member Number: 48761 Location: Inland Empire Posts: 11,498	Quote: Originally Posted by boost_SRT4 i would go ahead an replace both i just ran into 1000 dollars worth of suspension repair because of these issues. my exhaust was too loud to hear the noise, then it was too late Care to elaborate? Ive needed bearings for awhile i suspect some play and Im a little lost as to how that can happen __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by Turbolag87 ur all idiots and noobs. Stop giving out retarded information

05-20-2008, 10:51 AM	#6 (permalink)
1LAPSRT Premium Member (Lifetime) SRT of the Month 2011 Calendar Car Join Date: Feb 2006 Member Number: 38267 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 8,689	I would go ahead and spend the extra $90 and get two new front hubs as well. If you are doing all the work and then something goes wrong with the old hub, you have to do all the work again and buy another bearing. And don't forget you get all new wheel studs already installed in the hubs when you buy them! I replace all four hubs/bearings at least twice a year, but my car is mostly just for track use. __________________ *** Modern Performance SRT4 - Dominating the road race community for over 5 years! 2012 MPx SRT4 Racing and Event schedule: http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f77/...2012-a-627265/ Get your fix of SRT-4 racing here : www.WindspeedMotorsports.com Last edited by 1LAPSRT; 05-20-2008 at 11:03 AM. Reason: Fixed pricing info....

05-20-2008, 10:52 AM	#7 (permalink)
1LAPSRT Premium Member (Lifetime) SRT of the Month 2011 Calendar Car Join Date: Feb 2006 Member Number: 38267 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 8,689	Quote: Originally Posted by MonsterLemon Care to elaborate? Ive needed bearings for awhile i suspect some play and Im a little lost as to how that can happen I suppose that if the rear's were bad, he could have chewed up the spindle assembly(s)? Other than that, I can't imagine what would cause $1,000 damage due to a worn bearing. __________________ *** Modern Performance SRT4 - Dominating the road race community for over 5 years! 2012 MPx SRT4 Racing and Event schedule: http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f77/...2012-a-627265/ Get your fix of SRT-4 racing here : www.WindspeedMotorsports.com

05-20-2008, 10:56 AM	#8 (permalink)
dodgetech81 SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Member Number: 58416 Location: rhode island Posts: 83	when you press the hub out of the bearing the outter bearing race is going to still be pressed to the hub.you need a special tool to catch the edge of the race and press it off the hub.or you can cut most the way through the race and crack it with a chisel.it can pose to be a pain in the ass if you dont have the right tools.so if this is a driveway job id just save yourself the agrivation and buy new hubs also.

05-20-2008, 11:07 AM	#9 (permalink)
1LAPSRT Premium Member (Lifetime) SRT of the Month 2011 Calendar Car Join Date: Feb 2006 Member Number: 38267 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 8,689	Quote: Originally Posted by dodgetech81 when you press the hub out of the bearing the outter bearing race is going to still be pressed to the hub.you need a special tool to catch the edge of the race and press it off the hub.or you can cut most the way through the race and crack it with a chisel.it can pose to be a pain in the ass if you dont have the right tools.so if this is a driveway job id just save yourself the agrivation and buy new hubs also. I wouldn't even attempt the bearing removal without a press. If you don't have one (and some bearing press tools) I would take the whole knuckle to a machine shop and have them do the work for you. Just bring the new hub and bearing and it should take them about 15 minutes, assuming they know what they are doing. __________________ *** Modern Performance SRT4 - Dominating the road race community for over 5 years! 2012 MPx SRT4 Racing and Event schedule: http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f77/...2012-a-627265/ Get your fix of SRT-4 racing here : www.WindspeedMotorsports.com

05-20-2008, 02:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
s3ps2 SRTforums Member* Join Date: Jul 2005 Member Number: 31038 Location: Gardner, KS Posts: 5,033	I don't plan on doing it. I plan on having a local shop do it. So would it be more in labor for them to replace the hub with the bearing? And No I don't want to replace something that doesn't need to be replaced. (The right side) Once it starts getting play I will replace that side. I also read they upgraded from a tappered roller bearing to a ball bearing. Could be the other way around. My buddy only had 28k on his and both of them went out! FYI. My car is a daily driver too BTW, not a track car. Quote: I just had some autozone timkin ($31 each) bearings installed in my knuckles / hubs for $35 per side. The hubs feel nice and slightly snug when rotated. They only charged you $35 to install a bearing!@?!?!? __________________ 04 Neon SRT-4 Mopar S3, DSP, 888cc injectors, Dusters tune, Walbro 255 w/ S3 fuel system. NO rewire. e70 397whp/398tq 128k miles 99 Neon Highline Coupe MPG Daily 2.0 DOHC, 5spd Last edited by s3ps2; 05-20-2008 at 02:14 PM.*

05-20-2008, 02:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
1LAPSRT Premium Member (Lifetime) SRT of the Month 2011 Calendar Car Join Date: Feb 2006 Member Number: 38267 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 8,689	Quote: Originally Posted by raul-01 I don't plan on doing it. I plan on having a local shop do it. So would it be more in labor for them to replace the hub with the bearing? And No I don't want to replace something that doesn't need to be replaced. (The right side) Once it starts getting play I will replace that side. I also read they upgraded from a tappered roller bearing to a ball bearing. Could be the other way around. My buddy only had 28k on his and both of them went out! FYI. My car is a daily driver too BTW, not a track car. They only charged you $35 to install a bearing!@?!?!? You have to remove the hub from the spindle and press off the bearing (or at least half) to replace the bearing, so in all reality, it is less labor if you replace the hub as well, since they don't have to worry about removing the bearing from the hub, just the spindle housing. I paid $30 to install both bearing and both hubs in my knuckles. Of course I carried the spindle to a machine shop after I removed them from the car and reinstalled them later myself as well. It took the machine shop 10, maybe 15 minutes to do all the work. __________________ *** Modern Performance SRT4 - Dominating the road race community for over 5 years! 2012 MPx SRT4 Racing and Event schedule: http://www.srtforums.com/forums/f77/...2012-a-627265/ Get your fix of SRT-4 racing here : www.WindspeedMotorsports.com

05-20-2008, 04:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
fivetoez SRTforums Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Member Number: 9691 Location: Central Ct. Posts: 3,964	I just changed my L.F. wheel bearing, & YES! i HAD to replace the hub...... because the inner section of the hub,where the inner bearing race sits,was worn badly. __________________ _____5TOEZ______ 1967 Cadillac Calais 429 2dr., 1967 Chevelle 4sp. Conv. ,1978 Dodge 318 "Factory Custom"van., 2004 Dodge Srt-4,Stage1.5(E-Blue) & a couple motorcycles.

05-20-2008, 04:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
Fischy SRTforums Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Member Number: 20133 Location: Kali Posts: 1,088	Quote: Originally Posted by raul-01 I don't plan on doing it. I plan on having a local shop do it. So would it be more in labor for them to replace the hub with the bearing? And No I don't want to replace something that doesn't need to be replaced. (The right side) Once it starts getting play I will replace that side. I also read they upgraded from a tappered roller bearing to a ball bearing. Could be the other way around. My buddy only had 28k on his and both of them went out! FYI. My car is a daily driver too BTW, not a track car. They only charged you $35 to install a bearing!@?!?!? Yes, I brought in two stock knuckle assemblies and two new timkin bearings. One hour later my knuckles / hubs have the fresh bearings installed for $70 total cost. Just a local automotive machine shop. Steve __________________ LCR GreenSpec S3, Everything Ported, DSP & CM W/M injection.

05-20-2008, 10:52 PM	#14 (permalink)
s3ps2 SRTforums Member* Join Date: Jul 2005 Member Number: 31038 Location: Gardner, KS Posts: 5,033	Ahhh okay! I thought you brought your car in there and they took it apart and put it back together for $35 a side. I shall order the hub too. __________________ 04 Neon SRT-4 Mopar S3, DSP, 888cc injectors, Dusters tune, Walbro 255 w/ S3 fuel system. NO rewire. e70 397whp/398tq 128k miles 99 Neon Highline Coupe MPG Daily 2.0 DOHC, 5spd

02-26-2010, 11:55 AM	#15 (permalink)
stranacksrt4 SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Member Number: 60726 Location: WA Posts: 82	Quote: Originally Posted by *s3ps2** Ahhh okay! I thought you brought your car in there and they took it apart and put it back together for $35 a side. I shall order the hub too. where are you ordering the bearing and hub from i need one aswell. thanks

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