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How To: Install 3rd gear extender.

A lot have asked for a How-to for this subject. I was doing mine today so I decided to make one. Enjoy.


Remove battery, tray, air intake and anything obstructing access to the top plate on the transmission.



Pull up on the shift cables, they pop right off. Move to the side.

I recommend removing the trans mount. Its one 1/2in mount bolt and it gives you room to wrench. Be sure to support it with a jack and a wood block, this will also aid you in lining up the trans mount to slide the long bolt back in.

Remove the seven 13mm bolts from the top plate. I use a gear wrench for this.



Note: The bolt under the counter weight will NOT come out of the plate. The idea here is to loosen it last and bring the plate up off the trans while rotating the bolt counterclockwise.



Cover the exposed transmission with a towel or something to prevent objects from falling into it.
Place your trans plate in a vice, or secure it somewhere you can bang on it and it won't move.



Using a punch and hammer, or mallet, remove the two pins in the shaft. They hold the shift selector on and the stock _____ (IDK what the OEM item the 3rd gear extender replaces is called)
Note the positions of the items before removing them.





Stock part on the left of the 3rd gear extender for comparison.


Clean the items with something, I used a "lint free" shop towel.

Re assemble the shift selector and 3rd gear extender onto the shaft and make sure the notches are properly aligned.




Install locking pins.



Clean the mating surfaces of the plate and the transmission. I use paint thinner and a wire brush. If you do this you MUST have a shop vac to remove any dust or debris you agitate on, in and around the open transmission.




Run a bead of Transmission sealant Mopar part # ________, or equivalent Anaerobic sealant. Failure to use the appropriate sealant may result in seal failure and corrosion.

I use this:



Install plate onto top of transmission. Note: I place the shift selector in the middle position to align the internals and make sure the forks are aligned to allow the selector to slide into them.



Begin tightening the bolt under the weight first. As you tighten each bolt periodically move the counterweight to ensure it moves freely and without restriction.
I can't fit a torque wrench in the bay there, so I tightened the bolts until I was confident they were tight enough. Some people use Loctite or Threadlock, that is acceptable, as long as the bolts are in fact tight.
Attempt to shift the car, engine off, into each gear. I have never had any problem not being able to do this after install.

I lost the end to my sealant, so that's the reason for my putty knife and fat ass bead. I cleaned it up before I put the plate in, so nothing dripped into the trans.

If anyone can help me fill in the blanks I will. All help is appreciated.

If in the process of installing a shift selector at the same time, and you break the roll pin, it can be ordered here: https://www.partswebsite.com/wermopar It is part number 6101475

20G Stage 3 on E85: New data:384 hp 411 tq

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Nice write up, pics are very helpful
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Yeah this is excellent. Great Job!

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Thanks guys. As soon as I can find the part number for the Mopar brand sealant I will include it. And the name of the part the 3rd gear extender replaces.

BTW I went into this blindly.

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Props to you man


Maybe I might sound dumb, but what is the benefit to this? I have yet to really look into any tranny stuff as mine is somehow still in decent shape(knock on wood...)]
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this is a good how to deff needs to be in how-to section for sure thanks for actually posting pics plus discussion over what your doing instead of detailed discussion with no pics
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Props to you man


Maybe I might sound dumb, but what is the benefit to this? I have yet to really look into any tranny stuff as mine is somehow still in decent shape(knock on wood...)]
I have abused the crap out of my trans. From 22psi WOT shifts, to breaking my Input Shaft on New Years Day. I have 2 problems: Sometimes the trans doesn't "want" to go into third, and sometimes when I downshift from fourth to third, my stick kicks back to neutral after releasing the clutch. This 3rd gear extender is supposed to "push the trans further into third gear." As I have yet to drive the car, I can not yet tell you how it works, however, I have read numerous testimonials saying that it works and it works well. So, I listened to the masses and got one myself. For more information you can click this link: Werks 3rd Gear Shift Extender (Neon SRT-4) - Modern Automotive Performance or The Home of WERKSracing products! but they have the same information.

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Nice how to. It can be used to do a shift selector as well. Did you lower the tranny to do it?

I have a shift extender as well. It works great!
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I had removed the trans mount to replace the 4th mount as seen here: Photo request. 4th mount on car. I highly recommend it, as it gives "swing room" for a gear wrench. Had I not other things to do, I might have fought with the trans mount and a ratchet.

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Lowering the tranny is the only thing missing from your how to then. You don't have to take the tranny mount completely out, but it looks like you had a ton of room without it there.
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Lowering the tranny is the only thing missing from your how to then. You don't have to take the tranny mount completely out, but it looks like you had a ton of room without it there.
Edited post 1. You have a good point. I did have plenty of room to wrench. You will need to get the bolts tight, and they are put on tight from the factory, so a 1/4 in socket wrench isn't very easy to use in there.

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So this is the fix to my problem? I have these symptoms as well, but I would describe it as sometimes it stays in 3rd when I downshift, not sometimes it pops out. It also kicks out when up shifting to 3rd sometimes, but only maybe 2 or 3 times a week. Actually I don't remember the last time it did that, but I definitely have the downshifting problem. It's good to know I may be able to fix this w/o dropping the trans. Thanks for the write up.

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Ratcheting wrenches FTW!
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So this is the fix to my problem? I have these symptoms as well, but I would describe it as sometimes it stays in 3rd when I downshift, not sometimes it pops out. It also kicks out when up shifting to 3rd sometimes, but only maybe 2 or 3 times a week. Actually I don't remember the last time it did that, but I definitely have the downshifting problem. It's good to know I may be able to fix this w/o dropping the trans. Thanks for the write up.
This seems to fix many many third gear problems. Try it and LMK how it works.

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Well before I try it, I want you to let me know how you think it works.

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