I had a clutch put in by my neighbor who owns a body shop and does work on the side. I had him install a clutch because my centerforce clutch burnt to a crisp. Well I went to check out my car today and Im having problems. Its sticking in third and he doesnt know whats wrong with it yet. Since he's just doing this on the side for me I thought I could speed up the process and ask to find some answers.
So what Im asking is what could it be. The car drives only in third and it feels like it just stays there. When you put it in reverse it feel like it wants to go but its almost like it driving foward and reverse at the same time. He readjusted the shifter lincage and its not that. I was thinking its the selector itself but I dont know. Im off tomorrow so I going to try to go in and look at it. I dont know what to look for so any info would be helpful.
I work tomorrow so Ill check back tomorrow. JLYK Any info will be greatly appreciated
I take it that he hasn't taken the transaxle apart yet. Can you get the car into neutral at all? Does the clutch still disengage? Does wiggling the shifter while in 3rd have any feel to it or is it slack? When you move the shifter into 4th, does that have any effect at all? My limited experience with transaxles don't give me much experience, but I wonder if its possible for the synchronizer sleeve to have become fused somehow to 3rd.
Oh, also do you know what caused the clutch to be burned out to begin with?
Last edited by firegryphon : 03-14-2007 at 02:55 AM.
The clutch was on its last leg. I looked at it and it was even rubbing on the housing!?! It doesnt go into nuetral. He said he removed the driver side transaxle to put the clutch in.
And this is why I need help, I dont know what to look for. He said he was going to try to get it to the tranny shop down the street from him so they could look at it. The thing that I dont uderstand is why when put in reverse does it feel like its trying to reverse but cant. Its the same feeling in 1st the car want to go but cant, stick it in 3rd and it drives fine. Im kinda angry because I didnt accually get in the car. He jumped in the car to show me the problem. I want to get more info and go down there tomorrow just to get more of an idea of whats wrong with it.
HELP ME PLEASE
Ive searched and not found anything that sounds like my problem. Ive been reading about syncros, shift forks, slave cylinders, master cylinders and dont know what to think. Im thinking its the slave cylinder but how do I make sure? Ive read to rebuild the tranny its over $1k, Damn. I just spent that on putting in a new clutch.
I dont think its the syncors because the car has been hard to shift ever since I had my last clutch put in two years ago. Since then Ive taken my car to the stealership numerous times and they've told me the sycros look fine that they thought it was my Centerforce clutch causing the problems. So I took there word for it and assumed it was the clutch that made my car hard to shift. Ive never had the money to really get the problem fixed.
But now I had a Mopar preformance clutch put it so I wouldnt have these problems again. Wrong, now its not coming out of 3rd WTF.
So what Im asking for is some help. Any chime ins, insight, questions to give me a better idea of what to look for, what to check, how to check it would be greatly appreciated. Like I said above a friend is helping me out and he's not a Dodge tech so Im trying to get info so I can help speed up the process so I can get my car back .
I take it that he hasn't taken the transaxle apart yet. Can you get the car into neutral at all? Does the clutch still disengage? Does wiggling the shifter while in 3rd have any feel to it or is it slack? When you move the shifter into 4th, does that have any effect at all? My limited experience with transaxles don't give me much experience, but I wonder if its possible for the synchronizer sleeve to have become fused somehow to 3rd.
Oh, also do you know what caused the clutch to be burned out to begin with?
God I hope its not any thing like that. I dont know what I would have done to fuse the sleeve. Thanks for your input. I will get a better feel for it definitly tomorrow, definitly, definitly, tomorrow. Im going to his shop.
?So does the selector housing ever have to be readjusted? Ive readjusted the shifter linkage and that do anything. Will taking out the Selector housing and putting it back in do anything. I heard, not from the forums but from a friend, that they have to be reset, basically. Something like putting it on a jack and spinning the tire the opposite direction in order to get the selector reset. Does that make any sense?
?Once the cables are connected to the selector is that it is that how it goes? If it doesnt shift is it a bigger problem that just the selector?
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You should try 4th when you get the chance. 4th shares a lot in common with 3rd and if it goes into gear then you know something more about the situation. The fact that 1st and reverse feel the same and both feel like they neither can get into gear already gives a little bit more information.
?So does the selector housing ever have to be readjusted? Ive readjusted the shifter linkage and that do anything. Will taking out the Selector housing and putting it back in do anything. I heard, not from the forums but from a friend, that they have to be reset, basically. Something like putting it on a jack and spinning the tire the opposite direction in order to get the selector reset. Does that make any sense?
?Once the cables are connected to the selector is that it is that how it goes? If it doesnt shift is it a bigger problem that just the selector?
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Look at the shift cover. Maybe the mechanism is binding or broken as suggested in the manual. The manual says to make sure that you put it in neutral before you remove the cover.
Well check my car out today. And yep that thing is stuck. I removed the battery and tryed to move the selectors arms, only one would move, if your looking at the car the left arm will move but not the right one. I moved the left one and it will move the shifter so thats fine. But I dont know what to do about the other one. It will not budge. The weather is supposed to be better tomorrow so Im going to take the selector out and have a look at it. I hope its not broken, I broke the thing a year ago and had a AGP billet one put in. So I dont know. This would be easier if I had more knowledge with this kind of thing.
Well check my car out today. And yep that thing is stuck. I removed the battery and tryed to move the selectors arms, only one would move, if your looking at the car the left arm will move but not the right one. I moved the left one and it will move the shifter so thats fine. But I dont know what to do about the other one. It will not budge. The weather is supposed to be better tomorrow so Im going to take the selector out and have a look at it. I hope its not broken, I broke the thing a year ago and had a AGP billet one put in. So I dont know. This would be easier if I had more knowledge with this kind of thing.
You either broke a shift fork or the needle bearings on 3rd gave way and now 3rd is stuck to the input shaft. The best bet you have right now is take off that shift cover and take a look in there. Pm me if you need help or more advice. Your problem sound like the one I had a while ago.
Well check my car out today. And yep that thing is stuck. I removed the battery and tryed to move the selectors arms, only one would move, if your looking at the car the left arm will move but not the right one. I moved the left one and it will move the shifter so thats fine. But I dont know what to do about the other one. It will not budge. The weather is supposed to be better tomorrow so Im going to take the selector out and have a look at it. I hope its not broken, I broke the thing a year ago and had a AGP billet one put in. So I dont know. This would be easier if I had more knowledge with this kind of thing.
You either broke a shift fork or the needle bearings on 3rd gave way and now 3rd is stuck to the input shaft. The best bet you have right now is take off that shift cover and take a look in there. Pm me if you need help or more advice. Your problem sound like the one I had a while ago.
So found the problem. The 3rd/4th shift fork is broken. Pros to AGP. Now in desperate need of one. There $160 and dude said at his price $120. He over nighted one, it should be here on Monday, but Im gonna try to find one used maybe. Im kinda poor.
I knew it! don't forget you also have to buy the snap rings that hold the shafts in place. They can (should) only be used once. Once you take them off they should be replaced.
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