I've searched and read the posts on here about this problem but I figured I'd post my specific issue to get some feedback. The car is hard to shift into every gear. In the morning its not as bad but as I drive throughout the day it gets worse. Getting into first and reverse are the hardest, once I get going 2nd - 5th are not as bad, more stiff/notchy. I have about 80,000 miles on the car and I have the mopar sts w/ booger bushing. I don't ever really drive it hard or WOT shift and I changed the tranny fluid at about 35,000 miles. Also, shifting is easy whe the car is off. Can anyone help? Thanks!
this is happening because your tranny fluid is shot. I believe Dodge recommends changing it every 18K-19K miles (vets correct me if im wrong)... also on a side note.. it has been proven that the friction modifier that mopar advises you to put in is not only unecessisary.. it actually breaks the tranny fluid down! Quaife (the makers of our LSD if you have an 04'/05') has come out and announced that the mopar friction modifier is NOT NEEDED AT ALL! I had this exact same feeling about 5K miles after changing my tranny fluid and using friction modifier. works good when its cold, sucks when it warms up. hope this helps
I had the same problem. In my case (and many others) it was a worn throwout bearing fork. The metal that the bearing rests on wears away until it no longer fully disengages the clutch. It's like trying to shift without the clutch at all. 1st and reverse are the hardest because you're usually stopped when trying to engage them.
When I swapped mine, there was almost 1/4 inch of metal worn away compared to the new unit I put in.
it has been proven that the friction modifier that mopar advises you to put in is not only unecessisary.. it actually breaks the tranny fluid down! Quaife (the makers of our LSD if you have an 04'/05') has come out and announced that the mopar friction modifier is NOT NEEDED AT ALL!
The friction modifier is causing problems with the inserts on the synchros in combination with the OE fluid and other materials used for making components in the T-850. It's a complex problem and will only get worse as time goes by. I think you will all start to hear more about this in the near future.
The modifier is NOT needed because the Quaife doesn't need it, correct. Wrong kind of differential to need that kind of lubricant or additive. It just isn't really going to do anything for the diff's operation. I was told that it would have been suggested for use to try to help a shudder that was noticed when the '04 trans was thrown into the mix. '04 obviously being the first year for the Quaife. Someone somewhere thought to add the bottle of fluid to fix it thinking that the Quaife was causing the shudder. You can't blame someone for trying I guess. What they probably didn't know is that there would be a later chemical reaction in the fluid in the trans that eats up the inserts on the synchros.
I've searched and read the posts on here about this problem but I figured I'd post my specific issue to get some feedback. The car is hard to shift into every gear. In the morning its not as bad but as I drive throughout the day it gets worse. Getting into first and reverse are the hardest, once I get going 2nd - 5th are not as bad, more stiff/notchy. I have about 80,000 miles on the car and I have the mopar sts w/ booger bushing. I don't ever really drive it hard or WOT shift and I changed the tranny fluid at about 35,000 miles. Also, shifting is easy whe the car is off. Can anyone help? Thanks!
I am having the same problem. hard to shift in all gears. when the car is cold its easier but as I continue to drive throughout the day it gets worse. here is my list of what has been changed and its still hard to shift.
clutch
clutch pivot
clutch release lever (tob fork)
tob
master cylinder
slave cylinder
shift cover housing......and coming in this weekend: shift cables.
I also had everything changed out. It's still hard to shift especially right after I run it hard. I was thinking shifter cables as well. I had the same problem with my 2002 RT. The shifter cable were burnt from the exhaust. They would bind when the exhaust would get really hot. Wasn't as bad when it was cool out.
I am having the same problem. hard to shift in all gears. when the car is cold its easier but as I continue to drive throughout the day it gets worse. here is my list of what has been changed and its still hard to shift.
clutch
clutch pivot
clutch release lever (tob fork)
tob
master cylinder
slave cylinder
shift cover housing......and coming in this weekend: shift cables.
your issue lies in the gearset....quit throwing money at the rest. You should take your trans off and have it rebuilt
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your issue lies in the gearset....quit throwing money at the rest. You should take your trans off and have it rebuilt
i actually did everything this guy did and had my trans rebuilt and it still shifts like crap. srt trans it just pure shit. shifts great when the cars off as soon as the car starts back to crap.
i actually did everything this guy did and had my trans rebuilt and it still shifts like crap. srt trans it just pure shit. shifts great when the cars off as soon as the car starts back to crap.
i used to but then pulled them out because the trans felt even worst. i also left out some key info, my SBC vibrates so i am hoping that is the cause. put the new trans in at the same time this shitty clutch went in. i am hoping when i put the stock clutch on the shifting gets easier. ether way this car always shifted like crap lol
I also am having the same problem too..... Shift good when the car is cold but threw out the day.... its crapy....... I have about 51,100 miles on the car...... With the Pwerks stage 2 tranny and with the stock clutch......
The friction modifier is causing problems with the inserts on the synchros in combination with the OE fluid and other materials used for making components in the T-850. It's a complex problem and will only get worse as time goes by. I think you will all start to hear more about this in the near future.
The modifier is NOT needed because the Quaife doesn't need it, correct. Wrong kind of differential to need that kind of lubricant or additive. It just isn't really going to do anything for the diff's operation. I was told that it would have been suggested for use to try to help a shudder that was noticed when the '04 trans was thrown into the mix. '04 obviously being the first year for the Quaife. Someone somewhere thought to add the bottle of fluid to fix it thinking that the Quaife was causing the shudder. You can't blame someone for trying I guess. What they probably didn't know is that there would be a later chemical reaction in the fluid in the trans that eats up the inserts on the synchros.
so do i NEED the friction modifier when i change the fluid in my 03(non Quaife obviously)
So you, so alike us all, are having tranny problems... Well its becuse of our shift selectors being made of copper. Billet selectors will eliminate that, meaning, a stage 2 tranny for about $1,600. The booger bushings dont help either. I hate this GDamn tranny. feels like it should be in a Honda!!!
You don't want the Mopar friction modifier at all. '03, '04 or '05. Don't use it all at unless it's going into something other than a Neon or SRT-4 trans. For example, use it in a conventional rear-end. Like a Mopar SureGrip in an 8 1/4, 8 3/4, etc.
What's this worth: used but cleaned and modified T850 case with new '08 guts (many revised parts), different input shaft that you will not break (not one of the newly made "upgrade shafts" being sold now), better bearings, modified input shaft for superior oiling to the synchros, etc, etc, etc.
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