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Old 08-27-2005, 03:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Stage 1, Stage 3, or Stage 4???

I am in the market for a new clutch, and I would like to go with a CM. On www.UltraRev.com, they have some very competative pricing. (so unless you guys at CM say no, that is the best pricing I've found) Anyhow, I'm still some what confused on which direction to go on which stage. I'll tell you what I plan on and what I have, and if you could shed some light on a proper way to go, I'd appreciate it.

I have most the major bolt-ons, plus Mopar stage one. I have a nitrous setup, but not installed at this time. If and when it gets installed, I don't think I would ever go over a 75 shot. I may go to to a Mopar S3R, but Stage 2/w toys is more likely.

A CM Stage one seems almost a touch too small, but the Stage 4 looks to be overkill (helocopter) . The Stage 3 is more expensive than both, and I have no clue which puck I would need.(if you even need to choose a puck to go with it)

Where is a S2 CM when you need it???

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Old 08-29-2005, 09:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Buckonine
I am in the market for a new clutch, and I would like to go with a CM. On www.UltraRev.com, they have some very competative pricing. (so unless you guys at CM say no, that is the best pricing I've found) Anyhow, I'm still some what confused on which direction to go on which stage. I'll tell you what I plan on and what I have, and if you could shed some light on a proper way to go, I'd appreciate it.

I have most the major bolt-ons, plus Mopar stage one. I have a nitrous setup, but not installed at this time. If and when it gets installed, I don't think I would ever go over a 75 shot. I may go to to a Mopar S3R, but Stage 2/w toys is more likely.

A CM Stage one seems almost a touch too small, but the Stage 4 looks to be overkill (helocopter) . The Stage 3 is more expensive than both, and I have no clue which puck I would need.(if you even need to choose a puck to go with it)

Where is a S2 CM when you need it???

Any help would be good help.
Buck

Well the stage 2 is going to be the same price as the stage 3 (because of its full faced Kevlar lining) and it will only hold as much torque as the stage 1, we usually do not push the stage 2 anymore because of this fact. So, considering your add-ons and the fact that you are planning on a nitrous set up, I would go with more clutch than you need just to be safe.

Now it all depends on your driving style if you should go with the s3 or the s4. The s3 requires significant break-in because of the Kevlar lining and is meant for mostly street abuse. The s4 on the other hand does not require a full break-in period, but we do suggest 4-5 hundred miles of normal driving to allow the material to seat properly (this will give the clutch more life). The s4 will take a lot of abuse and is meant for racing, but it is also very street able, it might chatter more than the s3 but if you give it time to break-in properly the chatter will be minimal.

As far as the number of pucks for the s4 goes, the 4-puck will hold a little more torque and be a little more aggressive, while the 6-puck will be a little more street able while sacrificing a bit a torque. Again, it's all about your preference.
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Old 08-29-2005, 11:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks Alot guys!!!
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i would recommend the stage 3 after using both. Much better for daily driving, and still grabs hard!
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come on now, after driving jeans car with the spec stage 3i and 3f vs the CM stage IV 4 puc, the CM wins hands down.

It is more of a pleasure to drive and chatters much less then the spec clutches.

the SRT-4 has about one of the most streetable stage 4's of any car i've driven. they are not harsh like an ACT pressure plate. a well designed pressure plate coupled with some nasty discs make for a sweet clutch kit. parts are replaceable too as the kit is not rivetted in.

I as well as Jean both like the CM stage IV, 6 puc might be more to your liking. a full faced disc is more (street discs)
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I haven't driven a CM Stage IV car, but I ended up going with a CM Stage 3 on my Mopar S3R car. I wanted to get the slightly longer life of the CM S3, along with better streetability and less chatter.

If I didn't care about street manners, I probably would have gone with a S4.
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Thanks for the feedback guys!
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how much torque can the CM stage 3 support?
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okay so what if the stage 4 6 puck is streetable. How long will it last compared to a stage 3. Not as long because of the lack of material. Correct?
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okay so what if the stage 4 6 puck is streetable. How long will it last compared to a stage 3. Not as long because of the lack of material. Correct?

Almost correct, it wont last as long because of the aggressive material will wear quicker than the Kevlar material.
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how much tq does the stage 3 hold? I am trying to decided between stage 3 and stage 4 6puck for my 400+ 50 trim srt4

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how much tq does the stage 3 hold? I am trying to decided between stage 3 and stage 4 6puck for my 400+ 50 trim srt4

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The stage 3 will hold around 450, but if you are going to be putting it through a lot of abuse and/or racing at all, then I would highly suggest going with the stage 4, 6-puck.
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The stage 3 will hold around 450, but if you are going to be putting it through a lot of abuse and/or racing at all, then I would highly suggest going with the stage 4, 6-puck.


The occacional well (frequent) spirited driving and some track (drag) events. Not an all out dragger though.
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how much tq does the stage 3 hold? I am trying to decided between stage 3 and stage 4 6puck for my 400+ 50 trim srt4

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The stage 3 will hold around 450, but if you are going to be putting it through a lot of abuse and/or racing at all, then I would highly suggest going with the stage 4, 6-puck.


The occacional well (frequent) spirited driving and some track (drag) events. Not an all out dragger though.

Again, the stage 3 will hold your power, but you do not want to risk burning the disc up if you keep getting it hot, so it's up to you because only you know exactly how hard you are on it. I usually just suggest the stage 4 for anyone who even races at all.
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