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i have the cm s3 for about 20k miles. the clutch never really engaged as easily as the stock ever did. now lately its been getting harder to get into almost every gear including reverse. i've noticed when its a bit colder out and just starting up the car it is easier to get into gear, but once driving a bit its more difficult. sound like anything familiar? I changed the tranny fluid and there was really not that much difference(amsoil atf w/ friction modifier) and wanted to get this problem resolved soon as my stock turbo is coming out and my new turbo is going in. I was wondering if there is any thing i can do to make it engage easier. I saw a thread closely related it to this and i think you suggested that the person change his slave cylinder??
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i have the cm s3 for about 20k miles. the clutch never really engaged as easily as the stock ever did. now lately its been getting harder to get into almost every gear including reverse. i've noticed when its a bit colder out and just starting up the car it is easier to get into gear, but once driving a bit its more difficult. sound like anything familiar? I changed the tranny fluid and there was really not that much difference(amsoil atf w/ friction modifier) and wanted to get this problem resolved soon as my stock turbo is coming out and my new turbo is going in. I was wondering if there is any thing i can do to make it engage easier. I saw a thread closely related it to this and i think you suggested that the person change his slave cylinder??

Good luck , I had my Clutch masters stage 3 on my car for about 5,000 miles & it started geting real hard to get into gear & it got worse untill the point where you couldn't even shift at anything close to 6,000 rpm while racing at the track , it just wouldn't go into any gear unless you let off the gas completely & double clutched , I replaced my master cylinder & slave & it was still doing it so I ended up swaping the stock clutch back in & sure enough it shifts like butter now.
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Try adjusting your clutch pedal. I had the same symptoms when I had my stock clutch. After I replaced my clutch when it started to slip, I still had the same problem. Ended up being the clutch pedal was adjusted wrong. Just get under pedal with a wrench and loosen it and bring pedal all the way out (towards rear of car). If it is adjusted at all towards front of car, I had the problem. Kinda of weird, but that was the culprit. Now it is like butter.
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i have the cm s3 for about 20k miles. the clutch never really engaged as easily as the stock ever did. now lately its been getting harder to get into almost every gear including reverse. i've noticed when its a bit colder out and just starting up the car it is easier to get into gear, but once driving a bit its more difficult. sound like anything familiar? I changed the tranny fluid and there was really not that much difference(amsoil atf w/ friction modifier) and wanted to get this problem resolved soon as my stock turbo is coming out and my new turbo is going in. I was wondering if there is any thing i can do to make it engage easier. I saw a thread closely related it to this and i think you suggested that the person change his slave cylinder??

Good luck , I had my Clutch masters stage 3 on my car for about 5,000 miles & it started geting real hard to get into gear & it got worse untill the point where you couldn't even shift at anything close to 6,000 rpm while racing at the track , it just wouldn't go into any gear unless you let off the gas completely & double clutched , I replaced my master cylinder & slave & it was still doing it so I ended up swaping the stock clutch back in & sure enough it shifts like butter now.

well thats what i've been hearing a lot. clutchmasters is there any solution to what has been posted. I have nothing wrong with your company, but this clutch and install did cost a big chunk of change for someone who works hard for a living. if this is a common problem i think i'm going to just save up and get the ACT. for now i'm gonna adjust the clutch pedal like what was mentioned. i'll let you guys know how it goes

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i have the cm s3 for about 20k miles. the clutch never really engaged as easily as the stock ever did. now lately its been getting harder to get into almost every gear including reverse. i've noticed when its a bit colder out and just starting up the car it is easier to get into gear, but once driving a bit its more difficult. sound like anything familiar? I changed the tranny fluid and there was really not that much difference(amsoil atf w/ friction modifier) and wanted to get this problem resolved soon as my stock turbo is coming out and my new turbo is going in. I was wondering if there is any thing i can do to make it engage easier. I saw a thread closely related it to this and i think you suggested that the person change his slave cylinder??

Good luck , I had my Clutch masters stage 3 on my car for about 5,000 miles & it started geting real hard to get into gear & it got worse untill the point where you couldn't even shift at anything close to 6,000 rpm while racing at the track , it just wouldn't go into any gear unless you let off the gas completely & double clutched , I replaced my master cylinder & slave & it was still doing it so I ended up swaping the stock clutch back in & sure enough it shifts like butter now.

well thats what i've been hearing a lot. clutchmasters is there any solution to what has been posted. I have nothing wrong with your company, but this clutch and install did cost a big chunk of change for someone who works hard for a living. if this is a common problem i think i'm going to just save up and get the ACT. for now i'm gonna adjust the clutch pedal like what was mentioned. i'll let you guys know how it goes

Well, srt-power had it exactly right with the clutch pedal adjustment. This is the only fix to this problem with our modular kits. On a side note, we have reacted to this issue along with other complaints and gone ahead and redesigned the kits in to a non-modular kit which eliminates the stock flex plate and in turn eliminating the adjustment issues.
If you were interested in going with the non-modular set up you would just need to purchase the new flywheel which would bolt right up to your existing pressure plate.
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i have the cm s3 for about 20k miles. the clutch never really engaged as easily as the stock ever did. now lately its been getting harder to get into almost every gear including reverse. i've noticed when its a bit colder out and just starting up the car it is easier to get into gear, but once driving a bit its more difficult. sound like anything familiar? I changed the tranny fluid and there was really not that much difference(amsoil atf w/ friction modifier) and wanted to get this problem resolved soon as my stock turbo is coming out and my new turbo is going in. I was wondering if there is any thing i can do to make it engage easier. I saw a thread closely related it to this and i think you suggested that the person change his slave cylinder??

Good luck , I had my Clutch masters stage 3 on my car for about 5,000 miles & it started geting real hard to get into gear & it got worse untill the point where you couldn't even shift at anything close to 6,000 rpm while racing at the track , it just wouldn't go into any gear unless you let off the gas completely & double clutched , I replaced my master cylinder & slave & it was still doing it so I ended up swaping the stock clutch back in & sure enough it shifts like butter now.

well thats what i've been hearing a lot. clutchmasters is there any solution to what has been posted. I have nothing wrong with your company, but this clutch and install did cost a big chunk of change for someone who works hard for a living. if this is a common problem i think i'm going to just save up and get the ACT. for now i'm gonna adjust the clutch pedal like what was mentioned. i'll let you guys know how it goes

Well, srt-power had it exactly right with the clutch pedal adjustment. This is the only fix to this problem with our modular kits. On a side note, we have reacted to this issue along with other complaints and gone ahead and redesigned the kits in to a non-modular kit which eliminates the stock flex plate and in turn eliminating the adjustment issues.
If you were interested in going with the non-modular set up you would just need to purchase the new flywheel which would bolt right up to your existing pressure plate.

OK , why did it work great for a while & then gradually got to the point where every gear even with the clutch pedal adjusted all the way out was hard to get into , & forget about racing the car I couldn't even get it to go into gears at anything close to 6,000 rpm .

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i have the cm s3 for about 20k miles. the clutch never really engaged as easily as the stock ever did. now lately its been getting harder to get into almost every gear including reverse. i've noticed when its a bit colder out and just starting up the car it is easier to get into gear, but once driving a bit its more difficult. sound like anything familiar? I changed the tranny fluid and there was really not that much difference(amsoil atf w/ friction modifier) and wanted to get this problem resolved soon as my stock turbo is coming out and my new turbo is going in. I was wondering if there is any thing i can do to make it engage easier. I saw a thread closely related it to this and i think you suggested that the person change his slave cylinder??

Good luck , I had my Clutch masters stage 3 on my car for about 5,000 miles & it started geting real hard to get into gear & it got worse untill the point where you couldn't even shift at anything close to 6,000 rpm while racing at the track , it just wouldn't go into any gear unless you let off the gas completely & double clutched , I replaced my master cylinder & slave & it was still doing it so I ended up swaping the stock clutch back in & sure enough it shifts like butter now.

well thats what i've been hearing a lot. clutchmasters is there any solution to what has been posted. I have nothing wrong with your company, but this clutch and install did cost a big chunk of change for someone who works hard for a living. if this is a common problem i think i'm going to just save up and get the ACT. for now i'm gonna adjust the clutch pedal like what was mentioned. i'll let you guys know how it goes

Well, srt-power had it exactly right with the clutch pedal adjustment. This is the only fix to this problem with our modular kits. On a side note, we have reacted to this issue along with other complaints and gone ahead and redesigned the kits in to a non-modular kit which eliminates the stock flex plate and in turn eliminating the adjustment issues.
If you were interested in going with the non-modular set up you would just need to purchase the new flywheel which would bolt right up to your existing pressure plate.

OK , why did it work great for a while & then gradually got to the point where every gear even with the clutch pedal adjusted all the way out was hard to get into , & forget about racing the car I couldn't even get it to go into gears at anything close to 6,000 rpm .

Dude I had the same problems with my stock clutch, not as severe as yours though. When it was hot out or I had been driving around for awhile, it was damn near impossible to get it into 1st or reverse. Would take SEVERAL attempts with pushing pedal in and out. And the other gears were easier to get into than 1st and reverse, but not by much. I was grinding gears alot b/c I would let out the clutch before I got the damn thing in gear. I would have to shift real slow to make sure I got it in. Not until I had the same problem with the new clutch did Frank at Xtremeboost realized it was the pedal. I never new that the damn thing was adjustable and that a 1/4" forward made such a difference until he fixed it. I tried reajusting it forward a bit and it had the same symptoms. So I adjusted it back again and have had no problems since. I actually miss 4th a lot now b/c I'm not used to how easy it is to go into gear when I'm racing.
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Dude I had the same problems with my stock clutch, not as severe as yours though. When it was hot out or I had been driving around for awhile, it was damn near impossible to get it into 1st or reverse. Would take SEVERAL attempts with pushing pedal in and out. And the other gears were easier to get into than 1st and reverse, but not by much. I was grinding gears alot b/c I would let out the clutch before I got the damn thing in gear. I would have to shift real slow to make sure I got it in. Not until I had the same problem with the new clutch did Frank at Xtremeboost realized it was the pedal. I never new that the damn thing was adjustable and that a 1/4" forward made such a difference until he fixed it. I tried reajusting it forward a bit and it had the same symptoms. So I adjusted it back again and have had no problems since. I actually miss 4th a lot now b/c I'm not used to how easy it is to go into gear when I'm racing.

I'm glad adjusting the pedal worked for you but in my case & a few other on here I had to adjust my clutch pedal just to even get mine to engage at all if it was not adgusted all the way out mine would not go into any gear at all , not to mention the fact that you shouldn't have to adjust your clutch pedal to get it to work right in the first place , I didn't have to with my stock clutch & when I put it back in I could actualy adjust the clutch pedal back to the middle where it used to be , it just sucks because I know at least 3 other people that are having the same problems with their Clutchmasters clutchs' , & for us that's $700 down the drain with nothing to show for it .

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Well, srt-power had it exactly right with the clutch pedal adjustment. This is the only fix to this problem with our modular kits. On a side note, we have reacted to this issue along with other complaints and gone ahead and redesigned the kits in to a non-modular kit which eliminates the stock flex plate and in turn eliminating the adjustment issues.
If you were interested in going with the non-modular set up you would just need to purchase the new flywheel which would bolt right up to your existing pressure plate.

I'm glad to see you fixed & redesigned it , but you expect me or anyone else that has had the same problems I had to buy the new Clutchmasters flywheel to make it work like it was supposed to in the first place , no thanks I shouldn't have to buy more crap to make it work right , I don't think I will ever buy another Clutchmasters product again for any of my cars after the experience I had with this clutch .
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Well, srt-power had it exactly right with the clutch pedal adjustment. This is the only fix to this problem with our modular kits. On a side note, we have reacted to this issue along with other complaints and gone ahead and redesigned the kits in to a non-modular kit which eliminates the stock flex plate and in turn eliminating the adjustment issues.
If you were interested in going with the non-modular set up you would just need to purchase the new flywheel which would bolt right up to your existing pressure plate.

I'm glad to see you fixed & redesigned it , but you expect me or anyone else that has had the same problems I had to buy the new Clutchmasters flywheel to make it work like it was supposed to in the first place , no thanks I shouldn't have to buy more crap to make it work right , I don't think I will ever buy another Clutchmasters product again for any of my cars after the experience I had with this clutch .

Well I am sorry you feel this way.
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ok well i'm still confused on some things as why i have to buy a new flywheel assembly. it been getting harder to get into gears recently NOT ALWAYS. what is causing it to get harder for me to get into gears
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i have the cm s3 for about 20k miles. the clutch never really engaged as easily as the stock ever did. now lately its been getting harder to get into almost every gear including reverse. i've noticed when its a bit colder out and just starting up the car it is easier to get into gear, but once driving a bit its more difficult. sound like anything familiar? I changed the tranny fluid and there was really not that much difference(amsoil atf w/ friction modifier) and wanted to get this problem resolved soon as my stock turbo is coming out and my new turbo is going in. I was wondering if there is any thing i can do to make it engage easier. I saw a thread closely related it to this and i think you suggested that the person change his slave cylinder??

Good luck , I had my Clutch masters stage 3 on my car for about 5,000 miles & it started geting real hard to get into gear & it got worse untill the point where you couldn't even shift at anything close to 6,000 rpm while racing at the track , it just wouldn't go into any gear unless you let off the gas completely & double clutched , I replaced my master cylinder & slave & it was still doing it so I ended up swaping the stock clutch back in & sure enough it shifts like butter now.

well thats what i've been hearing a lot. clutchmasters is there any solution to what has been posted. I have nothing wrong with your company, but this clutch and install did cost a big chunk of change for someone who works hard for a living. if this is a common problem i think i'm going to just save up and get the ACT. for now i'm gonna adjust the clutch pedal like what was mentioned. i'll let you guys know how it goes

Any luck with the pedal adjustment?
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i have the centerforce and it does the same thing but after adjusting the pedal it gets slightly better. i think it might be more then adjusting the pedal!
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ok well i'm still confused on some things as why i have to buy a new flywheel assembly. it been getting harder to get into gears recently NOT ALWAYS. what is causing it to get harder for me to get into gears

Well 99% of the time when the clutch gradually loses disengagement ability, it is because of a bad slave cylinder. I would check all of your hydraulic lines for leaks and replace the slave and you should be back to normal again.
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k cool, thanks i think i mentioned that in my first post in this thread. i'm gonna oreder a new one. if thats not it then i'll mess with the clutch pedal some more
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