I finally was able to put the clutch and flywheel in and drive it last night. I had resent the clutch and flywheel in to get balanced. I ended up getting a new cover, new disk, resurfaced my fadanza flywheel and new TOB. Well anyhow I bled the slave and no air in it at all. Put everything in there and car starts up fine. I try to put the car into gearand it just wont go. So I turn car off and put it in gear...then start car. Well car trys to jump a little. So I start adjusting the pedal until its adjusted all the way out. With the pedal adjusted all the way out it will allow me to put it in gear, but its tough. When it goes into gear and clutch pushed all the way to the floor it will still move the car a little bit. So now I am like what the heck can I do? I have adjusted the clutch pedal bolt as far out as it can go and not working. So I ended up taking the rod out of the slave cylinder and measured it with a longer bolt I had laying around. I cut the bolt a little longer than the stock rod and put it in there. With the pedal adjusted out as far as it can I can now shift just fine. It goes into every gear decently well...not butter, but ok. I havent even shown the clutch 1psi and I have driven it about 100 miles thus far. The clutch starts to grab when I let it out about a quarter inch off the floor. The pedal doesnt seem to be any "tougher" now that I have put 100 miles on it so far.
So my question is I gues....why is it not letting me put it into any gear with the stock slave cylinder rod in it? Its a bran new slave and master cylinder. We thought it may be a bad slave and master...even though its new it "could" happen. So I ordered two sets just in case and it still did it. I know you guys said you balanced the clutch and flywheel, but whats causing this to happen? I really dont want to have to take the clutch and flywheel out yet again. Any help?
I finally was able to put the clutch and flywheel in and drive it last night. I had resent the clutch and flywheel in to get balanced. I ended up getting a new cover, new disk, resurfaced my fadanza flywheel and new TOB. Well anyhow I bled the slave and no air in it at all. Put everything in there and car starts up fine. I try to put the car into gearand it just wont go. So I turn car off and put it in gear...then start car. Well car trys to jump a little. So I start adjusting the pedal until its adjusted all the way out. With the pedal adjusted all the way out it will allow me to put it in gear, but its tough. When it goes into gear and clutch pushed all the way to the floor it will still move the car a little bit. So now I am like what the heck can I do? I have adjusted the clutch pedal bolt as far out as it can go and not working. So I ended up taking the rod out of the slave cylinder and measured it with a longer bolt I had laying around. I cut the bolt a little longer than the stock rod and put it in there. With the pedal adjusted out as far as it can I can now shift just fine. It goes into every gear decently well...not butter, but ok. I havent even shown the clutch 1psi and I have driven it about 100 miles thus far. The clutch starts to grab when I let it out about a quarter inch off the floor. The pedal doesnt seem to be any "tougher" now that I have put 100 miles on it so far.
So my question is I gues....why is it not letting me put it into any gear with the stock slave cylinder rod in it? Its a bran new slave and master cylinder. We thought it may be a bad slave and master...even though its new it "could" happen. So I ordered two sets just in case and it still did it. I know you guys said you balanced the clutch and flywheel, but whats causing this to happen? I really dont want to have to take the clutch and flywheel out yet again. Any help?
It definitly sounds like their is still air in the system, I would have it bled a couple more times to be sure. If that doesn't solve it then you may have a bent shift fork.
I finally was able to put the clutch and flywheel in and drive it last night. I had resent the clutch and flywheel in to get balanced. I ended up getting a new cover, new disk, resurfaced my fadanza flywheel and new TOB. Well anyhow I bled the slave and no air in it at all. Put everything in there and car starts up fine. I try to put the car into gearand it just wont go. So I turn car off and put it in gear...then start car. Well car trys to jump a little. So I start adjusting the pedal until its adjusted all the way out. With the pedal adjusted all the way out it will allow me to put it in gear, but its tough. When it goes into gear and clutch pushed all the way to the floor it will still move the car a little bit. So now I am like what the heck can I do? I have adjusted the clutch pedal bolt as far out as it can go and not working. So I ended up taking the rod out of the slave cylinder and measured it with a longer bolt I had laying around. I cut the bolt a little longer than the stock rod and put it in there. With the pedal adjusted out as far as it can I can now shift just fine. It goes into every gear decently well...not butter, but ok. I havent even shown the clutch 1psi and I have driven it about 100 miles thus far. The clutch starts to grab when I let it out about a quarter inch off the floor. The pedal doesnt seem to be any "tougher" now that I have put 100 miles on it so far.
So my question is I gues....why is it not letting me put it into any gear with the stock slave cylinder rod in it? Its a bran new slave and master cylinder. We thought it may be a bad slave and master...even though its new it "could" happen. So I ordered two sets just in case and it still did it. I know you guys said you balanced the clutch and flywheel, but whats causing this to happen? I really dont want to have to take the clutch and flywheel out yet again. Any help?
It definitly sounds like their is still air in the system, I would have it bled a couple more times to be sure. If that doesn't solve it then you may have a bent shift fork.
Ok I will try and see if anymore air is in there. I have bled it 3 times so far and no bubbles coming out. When I sent in the clutch and flywheel the only problem I was having was shifting at redline.....not WOT shifting, but shifting at high redline. Now since I have gotten it back I cant shift hardly at all....very hard to do so in every gear. I did put a stock clutch in there to just see what would happen and it shifted fine. Now I have the rebalanced setup from you guys and it wont hardly go into gear at all. Actaully it wont at all with the stock slave cylinder rod in there. I had to cut a longer rod to make it work.
Like I said the only issue before I sent it off was it not shifting at high rpm. Now with the new balanced setup it is even worse. I will do as you say and try to blead the system yet one more time. Maybe there is a bubble hidden in there somewhere that I didnt get the first 3 times.
bleed the poor SOB. or put a brick on teh clutch pedal and leave it overnight. in the morning you will be dandy. if it still is tough to get into gear, raise your static pedal height a hair
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bleed the poor SOB. or put a brick on teh clutch pedal and leave it overnight. in the morning you will be dandy. if it still is tough to get into gear, raise your static pedal height a hair
I have tried adjusting the clutch pedal and with it adjusted as far as it can go on the stock slave cylinder I am unable to put it into gear. When i let go of the brake and the clutch pedal still all the way in the car will still move forward. The only way I kept it from doing that was making a longer rod for the slave. I tried going from the floor and bring it out little by little hoping at some point when I had the clutch pedal pushed in and car in gear it wouldnt move. Moved the pedal all the way out and it got better...meaning when I tried starting the car it wasnt launching the car while in gear like it was when I started to move the pedal out.
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you chek the throw out bearing? adjust the clutch pedal, bring it all the way to the top.
I bought a bran new TOB from them when I sent it to get fixed.
Ok well went out and bled the system again. No bubbles came out or anything so I put it back together. Still notchy shifting and having to use hulk strength to shift it. Still even with the longer slave rod the car moves slightly when its in gear, clutch pushed in, and in 1st gear. I decided to go ahead and start tuning my car. After a couple pulls at 22-23psi on the 50 trim I now have to use my foot to push it into gear.
I really dont know what to do? I sent it to you guys and had it rebalanced and now its even worse. I have put in a stock modular clutch and everything worked perfect.....now the new balanced clutch from you guys is even worse than it was in the beginning. Is there any chance for a refund?
Dang I hate to see people going through things like this. There is obviously something wrong with the clutch that they sent you. Since you have already sent it in once to get fixed and now its worse after they said it was fixed I would want my money back as well. I agree and hope they refund you the money for your clutch. Is this your daily driver? I know I would be mad if it was me because mine is my daily driver and I cant do without it. Good luck with your problems.
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Dang I hate to see people going through things like this. There is obviously something wrong with the clutch that they sent you. Since you have already sent it in once to get fixed and now its worse after they said it was fixed I would want my money back as well. I agree and hope they refund you the money for your clutch. Is this your daily driver? I know I would be mad if it was me because mine is my daily driver and I cant do without it. Good luck with your problems.
It was my daily driver.....I have since bought a beater since the srt has been down for the count with the clutch. I have to have some way to get to work.
I am not giving up on the clutch just yet....I have ordered another slave and master cylinder today. Except this time its from a different warehouse. The 1st two I ordered and tried were from the same warehouse. I wouldnt think both sets would be bad....so I have decided to order another set, but this time from a different warehouse. They have a truck on leaving to come this way so it should be in this evening. I will change it out when I get off work and see what happens....hopefully its been just a bad slave or master.... There definitly is no air in the lines and its worse than it was before I sent it off...just hope this fixes it. This is getting costly....$795 for clutch, $350 for flywheel, then another $250 for them to fix it(they were gracious enough and only charged me for parts and no labor).
Edit: Oh and the clutch doesnt chatter hardly at all....can barely hear it. I remember before I sent it in it always chattered pretty good.
I think your best bet is to demand your money back. Then you know where to go to get a good clutch with the refunded money. Thats just BS, buy a clutch,have one problem with it, send it back and get charged for the repairs of something that was not good when you bought it new. Then you get it back and it's even more screwed up after the repairs.
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I think your best bet is to demand your money back. Then you know where to go to get a good clutch with the refunded money. Thats just BS, buy a clutch,have one problem with it, send it back and get charged for the repairs of something that was not good when you bought it new. Then you get it back and it's even more screwed up after the repairs.
Come on now, no reason to turn this into a hate thread!
vschaos, I will get ahold of the techs that rebuilt your kit and let them know what is going on. I will post as soon as I have some answers for you, thanks for be patient.
Hey I'm not, I'm just on the out side looking in and thats what I see. I know I may not know the whole story but I have talked to VS several times about his clutch problems.
Hopefully this will get worked out and all will be good.
I think your best bet is to demand your money back. Then you know where to go to get a good clutch with the refunded money. Thats just BS, buy a clutch,have one problem with it, send it back and get charged for the repairs of something that was not good when you bought it new. Then you get it back and it's even more screwed up after the repairs.
Come on now, no reason to turn this into a hate thread!
vschaos, I will get ahold of the techs that rebuilt your kit and let them know what is going on. I will post as soon as I have some answers for you, thanks for be patient.
Ok because I am thinking it has to be something with the clutch assembly. It worked fine with a stock modular setup, but just not with the assembly you guys gave me back. Since the flywheel was resurfaced by you guys I am most likely going to need a new insert since it wont be able to be resurfaced anymore. Thats going to be another $100
Its just the time taking everything apart, spending the money on parts hoping they would work, tranny fluid each time gets expensive. I dont really have any money to play around with anymore. I blamed it on the slave and master cylinder since there shouldnt have been anything wrong with the clutch being its bran new again. This is why I have bought another slave and master hoping that will do something....doubtful, but I cant afford another clutch at the moment.
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