SO how many SRT guys have bough a CM product and have been dissatisfied with it because of issues they have had with it?
better yet how many of you SRT drivers have had unresolved issues with your clutchmaster clutches
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SO how many SRT guys have bough a CM product and have been dissatisfied with it because of issues they have had with it?
better yet how many of you SRT drivers have had unresolved issues with your clutchmaster clutches
Well, I have the CM Stage 3 clutch and aluminum flywheel and it is noisy as all hell, I am happy with the clutch otherwise it holds the power with no complaint. The CM guys are willing to help me out and send me another clutch as long as I give them a deposit which they'll refund me, but I dont want to go through all the trouble sending the money, replacing my clutch, shipping the old one back etc. and end up with the same issue. I am not the only one on here with this problem with this particular clutch. I have even gone as far as removing my tranny and rechecking all fastners to make sure they were all in spec and nothing, everything was as it should be. They attribute the noise to the fact that this clutch apparently doesnt have these nylon bushing things that dampen the sounds from the drivetrain and they told me that it is amplified through the aluminum flywheel and clutch assembly and thats the noise I here. Sounds good to me, but that doesnt change the fact that at idle my car sounds like the motor is about to go out. : )
Hope this helps
Alex
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SO how many SRT guys have bough a CM product and have been dissatisfied with it because of issues they have had with it?
better yet how many of you SRT drivers have had unresolved issues with your clutchmaster clutches
We try to go above and beyond when resolving any issues our customers may have. If you have an issue or any specific questions please pm me and I would be happy to help you out.
ckutchmasters has been the best clutch i have ever had in my srt as well as installed on my customers cars. i had one issue and luis at clutchmasters was nothing but great to deal with and help me resolve my issues. 90% of the clucthes i sell are clutchmasters
I am now on my 3rd version of the clutch. First it was a modular design that messed up when the center piece blew out and vibrated the whole car to hell and back. Instead of sending it in for them to put another cap in there I went ahead and got me a fidanza flywheel. I asked them if it would work and they said yes. Plus there were plenty of people using the fidanza flywheel with these clutches. Well I put that in and broke it in again. The car held power, but for some dumb reason the car would NOT allow me to shift the car at high rpm. There was no WOT shifting...just push in clutch and attempted to put in gear. It didnt grind at all....just wouldnt go period. Sooo I contacted them and they had me send it in for inspection. I was told the cover needed to be replaced, disk recovered, and flywheel resurfaced. I thought flywheel resurfaced....but whatever just do what has to be done to fix the issue. I get the assembly back and install.....now I cannot put the car into ANY gear. I go through 3 sets of slave and master cylinders to no success. I ended up cutting and making a longer slave cylinder rod to see if this helps. It allows me to now at least shift the car, but I am disappointed. I contact CM yet again and they send me a brand new assembly with there flywheel. I install it and it shifts like butter now. I still have some more miles to put on it before I go stomping on the gas so not sure how the shifting will be just yet. I have spent a good amount of money already to the point I could have gotten a twin disk clutch by now.
Modular assembly - $800
Fadanza Flywheel - $350
New parts to balance and fix - $250
A whole new assembly - $230(for there flywheel)
Grand total $1630 I have spent thus far. I still have absolutly no idea as to why my fidanza flywheel didnt work. It was fine before it was sent to them...when I got it back I couldnt put it into any gear Oh well its all working now.
I am now on my 3rd version of the clutch. First it was a modular design that messed up when the center piece blew out and vibrated the whole car to hell and back. Instead of sending it in for them to put another cap in there I went ahead and got me a fidanza flywheel. I asked them if it would work and they said yes. Plus there were plenty of people using the fidanza flywheel with these clutches. Well I put that in and broke it in again. The car held power, but for some dumb reason the car would NOT allow me to shift the car at high rpm. There was no WOT shifting...just push in clutch and attempted to put in gear. It didnt grind at all....just wouldnt go period. Sooo I contacted them and they had me send it in for inspection. I was told the cover needed to be replaced, disk recovered, and flywheel resurfaced. I thought flywheel resurfaced....but whatever just do what has to be done to fix the issue. I get the assembly back and install.....now I cannot put the car into ANY gear. I go through 3 sets of slave and master cylinders to no success. I ended up cutting and making a longer slave cylinder rod to see if this helps. It allows me to now at least shift the car, but I am disappointed. I contact CM yet again and they send me a brand new assembly with there flywheel. I install it and it shifts like butter now. I still have some more miles to put on it before I go stomping on the gas so not sure how the shifting will be just yet. I have spent a good amount of money already to the point I could have gotten a twin disk clutch by now.
Modular assembly - $800
Fadanza Flywheel - $350
New parts to balance and fix - $250
A whole new assembly - $230(for there flywheel)
Grand total $1630 I have spent thus far. I still have absolutly no idea as to why my fidanza flywheel didnt work. It was fine before it was sent to them...when I got it back I couldnt put it into any gear Oh well its all working now.
Kevin,
As for the Fidanza Flywheel matching up to our clutch kit, like I told you before, there is no guaranty that the SRT4 clutch system will work properly when matched with other products. Now you might say that we sell some of our flywheels separately, which is true, but you have to remember that the SRT4 clutch assembly is originally a modular unit meaning that the kit comes complete with a flywheel. This is why we can not guaranty our re-designed, non-modular clutch assemblies will work properly with another companies re-designed, non-modular flywheel, there is just too many variables and different tolerances used between companies. Sounds a little confusing I know, but basically you can only match different flywheels with our clutch kits without voiding the warranty if that particular stock application has a non-modular clutch assembly where the flywheel and clutch kit are separate components.
My point is that instead of me getting technical with the warranty and what not, I just wanted to help you get your shifting issues resolved asap with as little hassle as passable. Unfortunately there was more hassle than we both thought there would be.
If I remember right, your shifting issues came right when you switched to the Fidanza flywheel, that is when we agreed to try and match your CM kit with your Fidanza flywheel. We set and balanced the entire unit until it was working properly on the testing bench, but still no worky in your car, hmmm? So after that we agreed to give you a brand new non-modular clutch kit, free of charge, and a brand new CM aluminum flywheel at our cost to hopefully fix the problem once and for all, which it seems it did.
Sorry for the reply Kevin, I just wanted to clarify a little more because, (maybe it's just me), but you didn't sound like you were completely happy with our customer service concerning your issue when I think we went above and beyond to get your shifting issues resolved.
I am now on my 3rd version of the clutch. First it was a modular design that messed up when the center piece blew out and vibrated the whole car to hell and back. Instead of sending it in for them to put another cap in there I went ahead and got me a fidanza flywheel. I asked them if it would work and they said yes. Plus there were plenty of people using the fidanza flywheel with these clutches. Well I put that in and broke it in again. The car held power, but for some dumb reason the car would NOT allow me to shift the car at high rpm. There was no WOT shifting...just push in clutch and attempted to put in gear. It didnt grind at all....just wouldnt go period. Sooo I contacted them and they had me send it in for inspection. I was told the cover needed to be replaced, disk recovered, and flywheel resurfaced. I thought flywheel resurfaced....but whatever just do what has to be done to fix the issue. I get the assembly back and install.....now I cannot put the car into ANY gear. I go through 3 sets of slave and master cylinders to no success. I ended up cutting and making a longer slave cylinder rod to see if this helps. It allows me to now at least shift the car, but I am disappointed. I contact CM yet again and they send me a brand new assembly with there flywheel. I install it and it shifts like butter now. I still have some more miles to put on it before I go stomping on the gas so not sure how the shifting will be just yet. I have spent a good amount of money already to the point I could have gotten a twin disk clutch by now.
Modular assembly - $800
Fadanza Flywheel - $350
New parts to balance and fix - $250
A whole new assembly - $230(for there flywheel)
Grand total $1630 I have spent thus far. I still have absolutly no idea as to why my fidanza flywheel didnt work. It was fine before it was sent to them...when I got it back I couldnt put it into any gear Oh well its all working now.
Kevin,
As for the Fidanza Flywheel matching up to our clutch kit, like I told you before, there is no guaranty that the SRT4 clutch system will work properly when matched with other products. Now you might say that we sell some of our flywheels separately, which is true, but you have to remember that the SRT4 clutch assembly is originally a modular unit meaning that the kit comes complete with a flywheel. This is why we can not guaranty our re-designed, non-modular clutch assemblies will work properly with another companies re-designed, non-modular flywheel, there is just too many variables and different tolerances used between companies. Sounds a little confusing I know, but basically you can only match different flywheels with our clutch kits without voiding the warranty if that particular stock application has a non-modular clutch assembly where the flywheel and clutch kit are separate components.
My point is that instead of me getting technical with the warranty and what not, I just wanted to help you get your shifting issues resolved asap with as little hassle as passable. Unfortunately there was more hassle than we both thought there would be.
If I remember right, your shifting issues came right when you switched to the Fidanza flywheel, that is when we agreed to try and match your CM kit with your Fidanza flywheel. We set and balanced the entire unit until it was working properly on the testing bench, but still no worky in your car, hmmm? So after that we agreed to give you a brand new non-modular clutch kit, free of charge, and a brand new CM aluminum flywheel at our cost to hopefully fix the problem once and for all, which it seems it did.
Sorry for the reply Kevin, I just wanted to clarify a little more because, (maybe it's just me), but you didn't sound like you were completely happy with our customer service concerning your issue when I think we went above and beyond to get your shifting issues resolved.
I know you say there was no guarantee that the fidanza flywheel would work, but the reason I chose to go with it in the first place was because at the time I bought it you guys did not offer a flywheel of your own. You guys only offered the modular setup so I went with the aftermarket flywheel. Why? because there are lots and lots of people using the fidanza with no issues at all(least noone said). It shifted perfectly fine for normal driving....was this way for a few months....just wouldnt shift at high rpm after driving it awhile. Then I pm'd you guys and you did help me more than I thought you guys would have. It was very irritating that the clutch assembly was sent to you guys to be balanced and when I got it back it was worse than it was before I sent it to you guys. I had my mechanic pull it apart, put in stock assembly and the car shifted fine. Then put back in the assembly I was sent and still not able to shift into any gear at all. It seemed as though there was an issue with the step. With me having to use a longer rod meant that either the flywheel needed to be brought out or something to be done so the tob didnt have to travel so far.
I am gracious that you went above and beyond to help me out! I have no issues with the customer service because you did everything you could to get my car back and running and I really appreciate that. The only real complaint that I have is I didnt understand why the fidanza and new assembly wouldnt work at all when I got it back. I know there is no guarantee that the fidanza will work with your parts, but how is it everyone else who has the flywheel has theres working? I am happy that the clutch assembly I have now is working just fine. I havent got the chance to get on it just yet because I want to be 100% sure its broken in properly.
Maybe that is an issue that there needs a pole put up. Could it be that the people using the fidanza flywheels with your clutch kits are the guys having the issues that come up? Not degrading your clutch so please dont look at it that way. Just saying maybe the issues people have been having were with aftermarket flywheels and not your own? This would mean noone needs to buy a fidanza and just buy yours if thats the case. Would save people a headache from running into problems. Also did you guys see anything wrong with the parts I sent back?
I know you say there was no guarantee that the fidanza flywheel would work, but the reason I chose to go with it in the first place was because at the time I bought it you guys did not offer a flywheel of your own. You guys only offered the modular setup so I went with the aftermarket flywheel. Why? because there are lots and lots of people using the fidanza with no issues at all(least noone said). It shifted perfectly fine for normal driving....was this way for a few months....just wouldnt shift at high rpm after driving it awhile. Then I pm'd you guys and you did help me more than I thought you guys would have. It was very irritating that the clutch assembly was sent to you guys to be balanced and when I got it back it was worse than it was before I sent it to you guys. I had my mechanic pull it apart, put in stock assembly and the car shifted fine. Then put back in the assembly I was sent and still not able to shift into any gear at all. It seemed as though there was an issue with the step. With me having to use a longer rod meant that either the flywheel needed to be brought out or something to be done so the tob didnt have to travel so far.
I am gracious that you went above and beyond to help me out! I have no issues with the customer service because you did everything you could to get my car back and running and I really appreciate that. The only real complaint that I have is I didnt understand why the fidanza and new assembly wouldnt work at all when I got it back. I know there is no guarantee that the fidanza will work with your parts, but how is it everyone else who has the flywheel has theres working? I am happy that the clutch assembly I have now is working just fine. I havent got the chance to get on it just yet because I want to be 100% sure its broken in properly.
Maybe that is an issue that there needs a pole put up. Could it be that the people using the fidanza flywheels with your clutch kits are the guys having the issues that come up? Not degrading your clutch so please dont look at it that way. Just saying maybe the issues people have been having were with aftermarket flywheels and not your own? This would mean noone needs to buy a fidanza and just buy yours if thats the case. Would save people a headache from running into problems. Also did you guys see anything wrong with the parts I sent back?
That is a good question why others are not having problems with the Fidanza flywheel/CM clutch combo, infact I was not even aware that many people were doing that. I may have to put up a sticky thread warning customers about this. The only problem that was obvious when we took a look at your Fidanza flywheel was that they use a smaller bolt to bolt it to the pressure plate, we use a larger bolt for more strength so in turn our pressure plate covers have larger holes. The problem is that when using the Fidanza flywheel with a CM pressure plate, the bolts are smaller than the holes which could cause the PP to move around a little. Another problem which I mentioned earlier is the fact that we do not know the exact specs and tolerances that other companies use to manufacture their flywheels, and because the SRT4's are so finiky as far as the clutch disengagement and adjustment, even a slight differance could cause problems. So in other words, I have no clue why yours had such problems and no one else's did, LOL.
This is definitely something we will keep our eyes on and I will put up some more information about this subject if we find that there are definite problems when using the Fidanza flywheels with the CM clutch kits.
I wonder if people would have the same problem, if they took a different clutch and used it with a CM flywheel
We do not sell the SRT4 flywheels separately for that reason, (unless it is to a customer who wants to convert there CM modular kit to a non-modular kit).
i have stg 3 its loud as hell i mean my bad ass built motor sounds like pinto with half a million miles are on it !!! the clutch will hold up to some power and modulation is good but for a mild clutch its loud
i tried to use there customer service and NO OFFENCE to clutch masters it was worthless " pull it out and send it back" IF there is something wrong with it THAT WAS NOT CAUSED BY INSTALL we'll replace it no problem" ok.I had it a garage installed it for 300 bucks they want to charge me to send it back "300" for a "POSSIBLE" replacement upon clutchmasters review
to answer any questions of quality YES they are good clutches they hold some power id say stg 3 limits would be about 350 hp, are they worth the price NO WAY!!!!
there are alot of people with srt's out here and about 6 that i know run clutch masters most are "race" stg4+ but a couple stg 3 they are all loud louder than most others race clutches and out of the 6 or so i know 2 have had issues /replacement in less than a year 33% failure rate that in no way constitutes the price they demand.
this assesment of clutch masters is just my experiance im sure many people are very happy with there product/service please dont think that i am bias.just remember to have your clutch replaced in the time period you must get it installed do a break in "2 weeks" then remove it send it to them and put it back in and hope the next one works and all that adds up to a whole lot of money about twice as much as the clutch cost or alot of labor WHEN QUALITY CONTROL should be first and fore most there should be no issues
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maby something happened to it during shipping
oh and that chatter you hear is probly your trans since when you step on the pedal it goes away
try to replace the fluid
pull it out and see if any thing looks bent
thats normal it will go away after break in
we sell thousands of these and this is the first ive herd that
its gona make some noise
THE MORAL IS once you buy it its yours no refund. if its bad, customer service isnt gona put a new one in for ya, so ask around . remember my clutch does work well, am i happy NO
yes i understand race clutches chatter and will slip if over powered but it is a problem other companies have over come that clutchmasters has not
JUST CURIOUS ABOUT CM CLUTCH KITS any issues?
Oh well its all working now.
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