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Old 06-19-2008, 07:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Where would you guys suggest I mount my nozzle?

Number 1 or Number 2 ?




I would assume I would go for location # 1,but I feel like that might be too close. Location # 2 is exactly 6 inches from the front of the throttle body,I would guess that would be about 8 inches from the actual throttle body blade. Im gonna start by installing one M7 nozzle,if that doesnt do the trick then ill just run 2 M5's. I read in a few places people say if your going to run two nozzles then run one between the throttle body and the IAC sensor and the other one between the IAC sensor and the end tank of the intercooler.My setup is the following...

- 49lb S3R
- Externally gated Mammoth Mani
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I believe thats it...could be missing a few things but you get the idea.Also ill be running M1 Methanol mixed with Water,should my mix be 50/50 or something else?Let me know what you guys think will be best for me.Thanks!



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~P.S. I searched for info in the how-to's and in the methanol forum but found no answers/pictures to my questions...

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This is how I mounted my nozzles..I ended going with 2 outside mount nozzles,one M7 and one M5 from Devils Own. I had my fabricator weld 1/8th NPT bungs in for me so I wouldn't have any boost leaks,heres what it looks like today...



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And heres where I mounted my pump...







As you can see I have the M7 nozzle is closest to the throttle body and I have the M5 closest to the intercooler.I have zero knock at 22psi and the car is running strong.Thanks for all the help guys!!
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Old 06-19-2008, 09:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Come on 9 people looked at this thread but not one of you know where to mount this puppy?!?! Lol.
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Old 06-20-2008, 10:54 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 06-20-2008, 11:21 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I prefer #2, myself.
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Im running an M5 at the #1 spot right now. I want to sooo badly run another M5 about 2 inches lower than your #2 spot.
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2" below #2...

#1 is too close

the longer the route the meth has to take to reach the head, the better the atomization...and thus, better results...
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Quote: Originally Posted by 91PumpKing. View Post
2" below #2...

#1 is too close

the longer the route the meth has to take to reach the head, the better the atomization...and thus, better results...

Aye, agreed.
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Pit Viper,Gmanigio,91 pump king and tusamni thanks alot! Ill be going just on the other side of the #2 spot then. Thanks again for all the help so quickly!




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Let us know your results.... Even though its $30 more to go dual nozzle and 1 hour of my time, Im being a cheap lazy Mofo right now..........
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i mounted mine 2 nozzels in two different locations btw you got pm. 1 on the plastic side of the pipe near the sensor but not directly on it towards the motor but not on the face of it.

But on the side pointing towards the tip sensor and fusebox so that it doesnt hit or come into contact with the tranny.

And my other one was on the metal extension pipe because my intercooler coldside of the pipe did not extend towards it becuase im using the stock chargepipe on the coldside of extended by cutting a piece of the pipe to reach it.
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So would you guys suggest mounting my 90 degree nozzle holder on the inside of the hard pipe with the M7 nozzle pointing towards the throttle body or would you suggest mounting the 90 degree nozzle holder on the outside of the hard pipe with the M7 nozzle pointing just straight into the hard pipe?

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Old 06-20-2008, 12:54 PM   #12 (permalink)
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What happened to you Tial BOV? I know you had hard pipes, what happened?

Anyway, when I used the stock piping I mounted in location #2. That way the IAT sensor see's the new cooler air and will advance timing. On my hard pipe setup I mounted it a little further down (closer to the intercooler), but didnt notice a difference. I would say location 2. I did some research myself before mounting it, and what I gathered from this forum, is that its best to let the sensor see the correct temps. Mounting it on the backside(tb side) would cool the combustion chamber and lower egts, but wont be as benificial. Or so I read.

I believe you should only use distilled water in your mix. I used to use Heet in the yellow bottle mixed 50/50 with distilled water, but I actually notice more with the good old cheap ass blue washer fluid. Just check the ingredients, should be water/methanol.
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Put a fitting in both spots and cap-off the one not being used. Test to see which position works best. Play with different size nozzles and mixtures as well.
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Micah - Oh I still have it man,just wanted to switch it up thats all.I ended up puting it a little lower then number 2,about 3 inches lower (towards the intercooler).Turned the car on,I saw the power light.Then I set it to start at 2 psi just to see if it worked,when I hit 2lbs the pump light came on letting me know that its working.So I guess I did install everything correctly then.

Turbojack - Thats not a bad idea man!


Thanks for all the help guys,later.



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Every setup has a different sweet spot im sure, but mines around 17lbs. What type of kit do you have? Is there a progressive controller? Or on/off?

Gimme a call this weekend if your free, I wanna see this beast. Did you dyno lately? I thought I read PTP bragging about your setup somewhere..

EDIT: Wait, 3 inches lower? That would mean you used the hose. I assume your using your stock cold side pipe to test location then? Cause the hose wont hold up for long under boost.

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