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Old 04-25-2009, 01:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default New nozzle location is done, huge gains!

Huge butt dyno gains and the AFR's changed huge from just switching to the new location. We have to get this on the dyno but from what we have seen, there is another 10 to 15 WTQ that was gained by just changing to the new location. We didn't just drill and tap these because we couldn't get the proper location for the nozzle, so every unit is machined out, tapped, then the custom insert is threaded in with sealer and then staked into place. We also tapped this to the proper size for your industry standard nozzles, should take 20 different nozzle swaps with out a problem of stripping the threads out.

This would be the perfect oppritunity for those that want to go dual nozzle (smaller one in the UPP pipe, then a larger one in the t-body spacer) with out the headaches of trying to figure it out. If you don't have WI, every WI kit that gets sold for your SRT4 will have this as an option.

Now some of you are going to ask about the benifits of running this set up:

Better air charge cooling
Better atomization
Less Nozzle will go farther
No more puddling out on the pipe wall
Running larger nozzle will not be an issue

We have found the perfect angle of entry into the manifold to distribute the spary evenly to all runners. It took a long time to determine the (dye added to the WI to check the runners for equal coloring) best location and angle and it paid off with huge felt gains.

We have the videos loaded up on youtube of our initial testing and we should be getting video loaded when we get off the dyno, showing the AFR change and power gains from just moving the nozzle locations.

Price is going to be $72.00 + core for these and if you get one of our WI kits the options to add this will be $45.00. There will be a core on these and we will have 55mm and 60mm as options at no additional charge. We will be adding these to the site in the coming few days, so keep an eye out for them. Thanks.
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not to start a war but how the hell can you estimate a gain of 10-15 wtq from a butt dyno? theres more than that by letting a car cool off
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not to start a war but how the hell can you estimate a gain of 10-15 wtq from a butt dyno? theres more than that by letting a car cool off

Several pulls on the freeway against a faster car then swapping over to the new location and running the same car again. The pulls were very close and the change in AFR's indicated something changed the power delivery. I guess I should have stated it was a felt gain, I didn't want to claim that there was a larger gain then a few because I didn't want to get flammed when the part didn't make our "claimed numbers". I would rather fall short on the estimate of gains, then over shoot.

Yes, I know.... we need to get it on the dyno. There was a felt gains during all of the pulls, not just one, but several. When we do the dyno testing we will have both systems installed and there will be several pulls from both locations. The swap is easy to do because we have both nozzles on the car it just takes swapping over to the other one, which takes 15 seconds, don't really see the car cooling down when we make the swap. Thanks.

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cant wait for the results.
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Send me one, I"ll spend the money on the dyno.
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what if your running a 70mm tb?
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what if your running a 70mm tb?

If you have the spacer we can get something put together for you. I would need your spacer since the stocker can not be taken out that far. Thanks.
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Send me one, I"ll spend the money on the dyno.

PM me your addy and you will have one to test. Thanks.
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direct port meth injection is still the best route you can get. you get exactly the same amount of meth in every cyl and the air speed is its highest in the runners plus shorter time to puddle. but for those not wanting to drill and tap there intake manifold your spacer is the next best thing.
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running a water/meth kit(with no tune) makes your car run more rich, right?
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nevermind...I can't read.

I'll be ordering one as soon as they are ready
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How big a difference where the afrs?
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Quote: Originally Posted by finfast srt4 View Post
direct port meth injection is still the best route you can get. you get exactly the same amount of meth in every cyl and the air speed is its highest in the runners plus shorter time to puddle. but for those not wanting to drill and tap there intake manifold your spacer is the next best thing.

Thanks and yes, DI port is the best.

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running a water/meth kit(with no tune) makes your car run more rich, right?

Yes, you should see .5 to 1.0 additional fuel or AFR's on your wideband.

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nevermind...I can't read.

I'll be ordering one as soon as they are ready

Thanks, if all goes well we will have them added to the site this coming week.

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How big a difference where the afrs?

See above post, thanks.
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wow. another 1.0 on the wideband! that would be nice. May have to think about this one.
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wow. another 1.0 on the wideband! that would be nice. May have to think about this one.

We are sending one off to Turbolag for testing. I just need to know the size of his t-body so we can get a spacer to match.
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