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Old 04-21-2006, 11:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default more proof w/i works

after pulling the head off my srt4, the pistons looked brand new still. after 11,000 miles of california 91 oct piss. W/I was one of the first mods and could not be more happy with how clean, lack of carbon build up there was. the should could not beleive how nice 3 of them looked. the last was a small ball of metal sitting in my oil pan. but that was from bad casting or weak rod. granted the blown motor sucked but could not be more happy with the w/i, not only for its abality to defend knock but keep the motor clean. made a true beleive out of me.
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after pulling the head off my srt4, the pistons looked brand new still. after 11,000 miles of california 91 oct piss. W/I was one of the first mods and could not be more happy with how clean, lack of carbon build up there was. the should could not beleive how nice 3 of them looked. the last was a small ball of metal sitting in my oil pan. but that was from bad casting or weak rod. granted the blown motor sucked but could not be more happy with the w/i, not only for its abality to defend knock but keep the motor clean. made a true beleive out of me.

and no pictures?? Whats wrong with you?! lol, that makes me feel good about my w/i purchase. Just hope i'll never have to pull my head.
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Just hope i'll never have to pull my head.

He he, You said 'pull my head'!
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Proof that it works?? Who said it didn't?

If someone doesn't think it works then they are a moron and do not understand the concepts of a gasoline engine.
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Proof that it works?? Who said it didn't?

If someone doesn't think it works then they are a moron and do not understand the concepts of a gasoline engine.

yeah, just thought i would throw up some proof. there are many people who question W/I. I never did, i researched the hell out of it first. the idea has been around a long time, WWII era.
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Proof that it works?? Who said it didn't?

If someone doesn't think it works then they are a moron and do not understand the concepts of a gasoline engine.

yeah, just thought i would throw up some proof. there are many people who question W/I. I never did, i researched the hell out of it first. the idea has been around a long time, WWII era.

Yep, I am a STRONG believer in w/i, I love it to death. WAAYYY better than richening the car.
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Just hope i'll never have to pull my head.

He he, You said 'pull my head'!

man, and when i said that i knew someone was gonna comment on it. lol
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Lack of Carbon reduces the detonation!!!

W/Inl is ALL good.

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i have some datalogged #s for people, with my turbo at 21psi, water injection on, i logged the knock rate on my tech gauge and doing a 4th gear pull, my knock rate was below 1 the whole way from like 50mph up to 120mph. then i did another one where the water injection was off (have it hooked up to a switch), and the knock rate was at 5-7 the whole way.....just some info to think about

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I predict that water injection will at one point be a factory option or be a part of an turbo upgrade package like Mopar stage II/III. Can you imagine the possible effect of WI if the PCM was controlling it instead of an aftermarket setup? Some high end specailty cars are at this point or are close to this.

When I say an option I mean a necessary component to achive optimal performance from an engine.

When the factory last had production vehicle with WI, advanced electronics and computers were not even close to being used. With advanced electronics and smarter engine control systems and the fact that WI is being more understood and sometimes necessary performance enhancement, we are not that far from it happing. No longer will a noob owner/driver screw things if the water tank/supply goes empty or a WI component fails, hence keep the factory from using proven methods and technology to insure best performance.
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I had my W/I turned off for about 100 miles and on WOT pulls I started to notice a burning smell coming from my car that I though was the clutch going out, but turned out that it was somthing else that was burning up somewhere cuz smell went away after I turned on the W/I again. Oh ya im boosting 24 psi to
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Beware, that smell might be tell tale signs of high EGT's and being lean. You might want to look at some type of control that will limit or inhibit a higher boost level under WOT if the WI is not active or functioning correctly.
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i have thought about this idea, i have engine run up's kit with the pressure sensor switch. i thought about hooking it up to an ebc if there was some way to trigger it so that when the pressure sensor did not detect pressure it would switch the ebc to a low boost mode, hmmmmmm
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Quote: Originally Posted by srt4fun80
i have thought about this idea, i have engine run up's kit with the pressure sensor switch. i thought about hooking it up to an ebc if there was some way to trigger it so that when the pressure sensor did not detect pressure it would switch the ebc to a low boost mode, hmmmmmm

I am not sure which ebc you have, but I have a solenoid with a bleed valve hooked up. When driving around normally, the ebc is off, but when I floor it, the injection system triggers, and when the nozzle pressure sensor detects pressure to the injectors, it triggers the ebc, giving me 5 more psi. This way, if for any reason the injection system fails, the ebc never opens, and my boost levels stay stock. Even if the system fails mid run, the boost will go back to stock instantly.
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very nice! i do not have an ebc at all. when we put in the gt30r i will get one, and probably set it up exactly like this
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