I go a coolingmist trunk mount kit 150 pump with dual 5m nozzles. I want to hold HOM in DAB 3. I haven't tryed Anything yet but I wanna run either 60/40 or 70/30, meth/water. I would run full meth but I don't want to at the moment. How should I go about with gettin them mixtures? What do you guys use to mix and how?
The quick, easy and effective way is to mix by volume. So for a 60/40 mix for instance, get a graduated container, fill it 6/10ths of the way with water, then top it off with methanol. Sometimes you will get a reaction that makes the mix milky and produces some heat, and that is normal. It will go away.
You can mix be weight, but frankly going by volume is fine as long as you do it consistently. Plus it is easier.
If you are looking to get your fluid from mixing washer fluid and Heet, a gallon of -20 blue washer fluid mixed with 5 bottles of heat will yield in the range of a 60/40 mix of methanol/water.
The quick, easy and effective way is to mix by volume. So for a 60/40 mix for instance, get a graduated container, fill it 6/10ths of the way with water, then top it off with methanol. Sometimes you will get a reaction that makes the mix milky and produces some heat, and that is normal. It will go away.
You can mix be weight, but frankly going by volume is fine as long as you do it consistently. Plus it is easier.
If you are looking to get your fluid from mixing washer fluid and Heet, a gallon of -20 blue washer fluid mixed with 5 bottles of heat will yield in the range of a 60/40 mix of methanol/water.
Isn't it true that methanol is about 74% the weight of water, so if you thought you were running 50/50 and you measured by volume, you're actually running around 37% methanol to water?
Your best bet is to get a uego wideband,scanguage and what mix that you want to use. And try to measure the mix and get the feedback from the car by monitoring the knock retard from the scanguage.
This will help you out to letting you know what the car thinks about the mix. I think anymore than 3 counts of knock and itll kick you out of hom. If you play around with the meth mix and get feedback from the car. Itll let you know where you stand on your mix weather to add more alcohol or more water.
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I use two empty washer fluid jugs that I removed the labels from and a EZ pour fuel container. I use jug one for water and one jug for meth. I weighed them out and marked the bottles. This way I can just fill to my line on each bottle and it is measured by weight. Poor both jugs into the fuel container to mix and then into your meth tank in the trunk.
It only requires a little work the first time, but after your jugs are marked its a piece of cake.
Good info thanks guys, I'll try the jug thing. I found a shop that sells VP racing meth, I tested yesterday, and could not hold HOM, but just figured out that my max duty cycle was at 8% and min 3% So dumb..... But I fixed it min 25% max 100%, haven't tested yet but I will soon, *crosses fingers*
Last edited by mistabones : 11-07-2009 at 12:32 PM.
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Isn't it true that methanol is about 74% the weight of water, so if you thought you were running 50/50 and you measured by volume, you're actually running around 37% methanol to water?
Almost. Lets say you have a one gallon jug. We do one gallon of methanol and one gallon of water into a bucket:
Methanol is 6.63 or so LBs/Gallon, water is 8.34 Lbs/Gallon. So you have 2 gallons of mix that weighs 14.97 LBs.
If you mix water and methanol together and it heats up and turns milky the methanol has hydrocarbons and you should return it back to the supplier. People who run meth as a fuel in the cars always test for this.
This is why we don't put dyes in our devilsown brew to hide bad meth. hydrocarbons can decrease the life of the pumps. It gets in the meth usually from tanker trucks carrying oil and then not washing it out properly before caring a load of meth.
Hoesty when mixing meth the most important part is to keep things simple. This way you can always run the same mix and does not throw your tune off.
You can use 99.9% pure lab grade methanol and get the temporary milky look and and an exothermic (the warming) reaction in the fluid. Adding dye to your mix will certanly not hide that.
Percentage of meth by mass = (quantity meth by volume * 79.54) / [quantity of water by volume + (Quantity of meth by volume * 0.7954)]
mass:
if i were to mix one gallon of -20* washer fluid that is 35% methanol with one gallon of VP M1 pure methanol according to this equation it would yield me approx 62% methanol : 38% water by mass.
volume:
1 gallon = 4 quarts
4 quarts x .35 = 1.4 quarts methanol and 2.6 water
add that to 4 quarts of pure methanol and you will have 5.4 quarts of methanol to 2.6 quarts of water, or 32.5% water by volume and 67.5% methanol by volume.
is this correct?
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