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Old 04-06-2007, 05:20 PM   #91 (permalink)
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The tune knob is what sets the max flow rate. let me give you an example.

Lets say you have the min set to 10 and max set to 20 and tune set to 10.

At 20 PSI you are at 100 % dutycycle with those settings. If you change the tune button to 9 you will be at 92%, 8 is roughly 85%, etc. In otherwords, it will changethe max flow rate.



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Its connected and working.

Just making sure you can connect the TPS and the Vaccum port together for 2D mode. So if I connect the vaccum hose up to the port, it will automatically switch to this mode of operation or so I have use a serial to USB cable to turn that on in the controller?


What are talking about is special control mode. That is detailed in the software instructions after you installed the software. That is a software only function. let me detail to you the features and see if this helps. Below the boost port is a recessed switch. If that switch is to the left if will run off of the boost port ONLY. If its to the right it will run off the 0-5V input only. When it runs off the 0-5V input, the green knob will mean min voltage and the red will be max voltage. In otherwords you will need to divide the knob #'s by 6. So 30=5. In otherwords, if you set the min knob at 15 and the max knob at 30 and are running off the 0-5V, the system will turn on at 2.5 V and be at max flow at 5 V.

Now to your question, if that doesnt rock your world you can hook up our free software. To get our software go here and you will see a link:

http://coolingmist.com/info.aspx?key=controllerinstall

To run in 2D mode you will need to get a USB to serial adapter. From there you can set the system to ignore the switch on the side of the box and let you run in 2 D mode. You can use the boost port as the Primary or secondary and the same with the 0-5V. So you can make it vary the flow off boost, but only when the voltage is above a certain amount OR you can make it run off voltage but only when above a certain boost.

Hope that helps.

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Okay and what about the trim knob in the middle?

We set it up on TPS and it tried to drown the engine with water, lol

We trimed it back by increasing the green knob. I kept adjusting until the bog went away. Its marked "17" on the controller is that about right? The red knob is set at "21" and I turned the grey knob down a bit as well. The bog is completely gone and the car does pull better than before.

I would talk about gains, but it was late, the car was hot and we got 12hp/22ft gain out of it using straight distilled water. But Dynopaks are not ego strokers so the numbers are on the low side.

We'll see what happens tomorrow...

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Old 04-06-2007, 07:05 PM   #92 (permalink)
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can i use the blue windshield washer fluid as an injection?
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you can use water, methanol, denatured alcohol, isopropel or any mixture of the above.

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So I would need to monitor my timing and datalog to see where the temp is going back up compared to full flow setting I have it on?
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So I would need to monitor my timing and datalog to see where the temp is going back up compared to full flow setting I have it on?

most do it by "feel". Lets say you are in position 10 and it bogs, you can move back to position 9, etc. Until if "feels" right. Obviously if you have tools to check engine performance that could help as well.

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damn this is a good ass thread.

i'm sure i'll have questions when i'm ready to install mine.
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ok so i hooked everything up and when i turned the power on(i hooked up the power to a switch instead of a switch ign.) it just started spraying and wouldn't stop till i turned the power off.



in this picture, what is the red line right under the power line for the pump? Do you have that pluged in if your not using the vari cool? Also how do you hook up an LED to let you know when its spraying? One last question, im using a stock coldside pipe for now and i tapped the nozzle in right before it connects to the TB, this is after the air temp sensor, is this ok or was i supposed to tap it before the sensor for best results?

sorry for all the questions but thanks for your time to answer them.
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ok so i hooked everything up and when i turned the power on(i hooked up the power to a switch instead of a switch ign.) it just started spraying and wouldn't stop till i turned the power off.



in this picture, what is the red line right under the power line for the pump? Do you have that pluged in if your not using the vari cool? Also how do you hook up an LED to let you know when its spraying? One last question, im using a stock coldside pipe for now and i tapped the nozzle in right before it connects to the TB, this is after the air temp sensor, is this ok or was i supposed to tap it before the sensor for best results?

sorry for all the questions but thanks for your time to answer them.

It sounds like the the wiring on the boost switch is backwards. There are 3 wires on the boost switch, if you dont have them just on that picture it can do exactlywhat you are saying. I would tap before the sensor.

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where do I hook up the led that tells me when my tank is low?

also where do I hook up the led that tells when its spraying?

sorry if those questions have already been answered.
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I dont know what you have from us. The float switch is simple. Use the red wires as a ground for your LED. Take your led and hook one end to any power source, hook the other to one of the red wires on the float switch, hook the other end to a chasis ground.

If you have our status monitor, use the status monitor as the ground to your LED, same concept.

let me know if you need more guidance.


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Here is a wiring diagram I made up to hopefully help those having poblems. I did this all off memory so if you're confused about something or somethings not right, let me know
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Eric,

That diagram is not correct. You are showing the 3rd pin as a ground. Our system is setup to run like this:

The top prong (COM) would haved our 12 V power (from switched ignition). The prong directly below that is wired to the back of the pump.

The 3rd prong (labeled as ground on yours) has nothing going to it.

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Eric,

That diagram is not correct. You are showing the 3rd pin as a ground. Our system is setup to run like this:

The top prong (COM) would haved our 12 V power (from switched ignition). The prong directly below that is wired to the back of the pump.

The 3rd prong (labeled as ground on yours) has nothing going to it.

CM.

In the diagram the 3rd pin is showing the power for the pump. If you noticed the line is red and not black like what's showing on the ground side. Sorry I didn't put a caption to show that was the positive side of the LED
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Ahhhh nevermind I see, I'll correct the right tab. Sorry about that
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Eric,

That diagram is not correct. You are showing the 3rd pin as a ground. Our system is setup to run like this:

The top prong (COM) would haved our 12 V power (from switched ignition). The prong directly below that is wired to the back of the pump.

The 3rd prong (labeled as ground on yours) has nothing going to it.

CM.

In the diagram the 3rd pin is showing the power for the pump. If you noticed the line is red and not black like what's showing on the ground side. Sorry I didn't put a caption to show that was the positive side of the LED


Eitherway, thats wrong. You dont use the 3rd pin. If you hook power to the 3rd pin the pump will always run until you hit boost, then it would turn off until you are out of boost.

There are 3 pins on that switch.

pin 1 is COM. That goes to the power source
pin 2 (right below it) is the NO or normally open. this pin energizes once the boost setting is reached.

Pin 3 is the NC or Normally closed. It always has power until the boost threshhold is reached. Someone could damage his engine if he wires it like this.
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