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Old 06-16-2009, 02:53 PM   #676 (permalink)
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Why dont you guys try to find pure methanol? I cant imagine those windshield washer fluids being good??? Is there anyone you know that races sprint cars or late models? they all run alcohol??? thats where i get mine from 3.20 a gallon. REAL cheap

Some windshield fluid is just a water and methanol mix with blue dye added to it. Considering that some is a 35% meth content for under $2 a gallon, it is a decent deal.


And adionik, I hope you mean -35 washer fluid. +35 will have very little methanol/alcohol content.
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yea!!! 20,003 views! Must be a record for the meth injection forum.

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Old 06-16-2009, 03:31 PM   #678 (permalink)
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I think this was probably missed, and never to be seen again after it was left behind on the previous page :

"For an application that isn't an SRT-4, with a custom IC setup, same side in and out top to bottom flow, is the optimum location as close as possible to the outlet of the intercooler so there is maximum evaporation/cooling time and distance?

Second question, is it best to mount the nozzle on the bottom of the pipe so gravity might work to the advantage of holding the water in the airstream a hair better?"
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Some windshield fluid is just a water and methanol mix with blue dye added to it. Considering that some is a 35% meth content for under $2 a gallon, it is a decent deal.


And adionik, I hope you mean -35 washer fluid. +35 will have very little methanol/alcohol content.

No, I got the +35 I can't find the 0F fluid. They have it at a AZ but it's really far from my house.

I guess i'll just use it for it's distilled water content, as I plan on mixing it with real methanol this week. Punched it and still getting 0kr with 11.6 AFR's.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tjabo View Post
I think this was probably missed, and never to be seen again after it was left behind on the previous page :

"For an application that isn't an SRT-4, with a custom IC setup, same side in and out top to bottom flow, is the optimum location as close as possible to the outlet of the intercooler so there is maximum evaporation/cooling time and distance?

Second question, is it best to mount the nozzle on the bottom of the pipe so gravity might work to the advantage of holding the water in the airstream a hair better?"

I prefer on any application to do close to the ic exit if possible, but its not required.

Lastly, putting the nozzle on the bottom is a mistake, you will get sediment landing on the nozzle that will clog the orifice.

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Sorry if this has been asked...

I have S2 w/ Toys. I'm looking into Meth/Water Injection as an alternative to high octane fuel. Can the system be set-up to only inject while in HOM?
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Sorry if this has been asked...

I have S2 w/ Toys. I'm looking into Meth/Water Injection as an alternative to high octane fuel. Can the system be set-up to only inject while in HOM?

hi. can you clarify what you mean by "only while in HOM". Once you answer I will tell you how to do this.

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hi. can you clarify what you mean by "only while in HOM". Once you answer I will tell you how to do this.

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Sorry David. High Octane Mode...I'm sure others might have mentioned the 'red' button on the Stage Upgrades. It re-maps the pcm when you have High Octane in the tank.
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Sorry David. High Octane Mode...I'm sure others might have mentioned the 'red' button on the Stage Upgrades. It re-maps the pcm when you have High Octane in the tank.

HI. i understand what HOM means, my question was more specific to the way you phrased your sentence. We have a kit called "srt 4 HOM Stage 2/3" kit. its designed to help let you hold hom. it comes on before you would be in HOM cools your charge so you dont have to run race gas. Your question indicated you have no problem holding HOM and want the kit to turn on when you are in HOM and off when you leave HOM.

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HI. i understand what HOM means, my question was more specific to the way you phrased your sentence. We have a kit called "srt 4 HOM Stage 2/3" kit. its designed to help let you hold hom. it comes on before you would be in HOM cools your charge so you dont have to run race gas. Your question indicated you have no problem holding HOM and want the kit to turn on when you are in HOM and off when you leave HOM.

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Sorry for the confusion. Yes, I want the kit to turn on when in HOM and off when I leave HOM. I want the ability to drive the car (when not in HOM) AND not have water/meth injection on. That way I don't need to worry about running lean. I'm I thinking correctly? For my application, I just want the water/meth to replace the functionality of High Octane Fuel when in HOM only.
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Quote: Originally Posted by dcsax View Post
Sorry for the confusion. Yes, I want the kit to turn on when in HOM and off when I leave HOM. I want the ability to drive the car (when not in HOM) AND not have water/meth injection on. That way I don't need to worry about running lean. I'm I thinking correctly? For my application, I just want the water/meth to replace the functionality of High Octane Fuel when in HOM only.

Ok, next question. How do I know you are in HOM? Do you have a wire that gives a voltage signal or a ground signal when you are in HOM?
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Ok, next question. How do I know you are in HOM? Do you have a wire that gives a voltage signal or a ground signal when you are in HOM?

I just mean when I push the HOM button on my dash. That's when I want the injection to run.
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I just mean when I push the HOM button on my dash. That's when I want the injection to run.

you would not do it that way, however....I am sure its possible to do something cool.

When you push the button you mentioned that a light on your dash lights up. This means there must be a wire that power goes to when you press the button but no power goes to it when you dont press the button. You could set the VC2 or CMGS to inject based on voltage and boost. It would not turn on unless your HOM button is pressed and from that point it would inject based on boost as your boost increases so does your flow.

if your hom button closes the ground rather than voltage you can use a simple relay to send the voltage to the controller.

Just an idea, would be cool.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Coolingmist View Post
you would not do it that way, however....I am sure its possible to do something cool.

When you push the button you mentioned that a light on your dash lights up. This means there must be a wire that power goes to when you press the button but no power goes to it when you dont press the button. You could set the VC2 or CMGS to inject based on voltage and boost. It would not turn on unless your HOM button is pressed and from that point it would inject based on boost as your boost increases so does your flow.

if your hom button closes the ground rather than voltage you can use a simple relay to send the voltage to the controller.

Just an idea, would be cool.

CM

Cool, now I think we're talking.

I know I'm too concerned about not wanting to inject when out of HOM. I just think it would be best to use the S2 w/ Toys as Mopar intended (with the exception of using meth/water instead of High Octane). That way I don't have to worry about monitoring my AF's when not in HOM. And yes, I know the pcm makes our cars run pig rich. But that is very worry free. I'll take the extra horses from W/M in HOM.
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That would be fun to do, all you need to do is find a wire that has either 12V or a ground when you press that button and i can help you with the rest. Just let me know.

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