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Old 05-25-2009, 01:03 PM   #601 (permalink)
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what can i do to keep the check valve from sticking? It has stuck 2 times over the last 3 days. Temp solution before i upgrade to solenoid.
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the only thing I can say is clean it. This is not a typical problem. I dont know what is causing it to stick, that is what you need to look at. Typically if it would stick there is a build up.

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they also stick if suck air in..
mine use to stock when i braked boosted and pumped sucked air in.. then id have to take it off and push it..
what do u put on pump to attach line if u upgrade to soleniod
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Quote: Originally Posted by gq4life View Post
they also stick if suck air in..
mine use to stock when i braked boosted and pumped sucked air in.. then id have to take it off and push it..
what do u put on pump to attach line if u upgrade to soleniod

That is a priming problem. your pump must be gravity fed with a checkvalve. I assumed the OP was talking about sticking open. This is more likely his problem as I have not seen many valves sticking open.

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Old 05-25-2009, 08:55 PM   #605 (permalink)
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SOO still no real answer??? Had ANYONE else had this problem. And what should i try first. I have a 60-1 on 16 psi, My 50/50 mix starts at 4psi. Laggy turbo does not have full spool till 4k, If i have 3rd at 4k and mash it it hits low 12's and mid 12's right away, If i let the system pump for 500 rpm (wot at 3500rpm and let it spray till 4k) it than will run low 11's mid 11's through rpm band? Never really had this with stock turbo being it spooled so quick. Soo my question is, Could i reach the mid 11's by switching my M5 for the M10, and would i be able to wot at 4k and still see the 11 afrs or do you think i should stick with M5 and maybe not start spraying till 10psi? Than maybe lower boost or tune little richer? I would like to see th 11's through rpm, and i can but thats only when i let it spray for 500 rpm before i hit full boost, When you racin, you cant do this way to much lag.
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my answer for the jet size was in post 596....sorry if that did not help.

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Yeaa i saw that dave but you never really explained why this is happening? So BASICALY your telling me the m10 will not cause this 12 afrs problem im having with the M5? I guess the M5 just cant catch up enough to the bigger turbo air flow?
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I am Interested in just your basic 199.00 kit. I am looking just to run it on anything over 13-15psi just for the added timing advance. I run a bigger turbo kit and other simple bolt-ons on 24psi on 93pump. Would this be ok? I know I would have to use my stock Bottle. Can you give a explanation of how the wiring hooks up and the ease of the installation?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kason23 View Post
I am Interested in just your basic 199.00 kit. I am looking just to run it on anything over 13-15psi just for the added timing advance. I run a bigger turbo kit and other simple bolt-ons on 24psi on 93pump. Would this be ok? I know I would have to use my stock Bottle. Can you give a explanation of how the wiring hooks up and the ease of the installation?

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the only thing I can say is clean it. This is not a typical problem. I dont know what is causing it to stick, that is what you need to look at. Typically if it would stick there is a build up.

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Thing was clean as all hell, nothing obstructing the CV. Pushed it and it was a little tough to open. Then worked great while parked and testing it. Then left a few hours later and same thing happened. BUT then this morning i pressed the purge and it worked... I DUNNO!
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So i put the M10 on, Went out never touched the controller, and STILL acting the same way, WOT at 3500 and start pumping full boost at 4k and it statys low 11's. wot at 4k and it would stay in mid 12's. SOO i was like well, that did not work, SOOO started messin with the controller, Now i have it coming on at 10 psi and now it dont madder what rpm i WOT it stays in 11's. No idea why but it works.
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Thing was clean as all hell, nothing obstructing the CV. Pushed it and it was a little tough to open. Then worked great while parked and testing it. Then left a few hours later and same thing happened. BUT then this morning i pressed the purge and it worked... I DUNNO!



When you purge the line you remove the air and it allows the spring to open. When i said clean the CV I thought the valve was sticking open, I see now you had a priming problem. If I am correct that the checkvalve would not open, it has nothing to do with the valve and evertything to do with a problem with priming. If have that problem and fill the tank and then remove the valve and then put it back on it will work again, if you run low on water and then enter air into the system you can have the same problem again.

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So i put the M10 on, Went out never touched the controller, and STILL acting the same way, WOT at 3500 and start pumping full boost at 4k and it statys low 11's. wot at 4k and it would stay in mid 12's. SOO i was like well, that did not work, SOOO started messin with the controller, Now i have it coming on at 10 psi and now it dont madder what rpm i WOT it stays in 11's. No idea why but it works.

Did you have it coming on at a later boost before? Obviously the system has no reference to RPM so an earlier boost would likely mean earlier RPM.

Just curious.

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Yeaa i saw that dave but you never really explained why this is happening? So BASICALY your telling me the m10 will not cause this 12 afrs problem im having with the M5? I guess the M5 just cant catch up enough to the bigger turbo air flow?

I dont reference air fuel directly, I reference your horsepower. With your HP range you need a M10. You have about 1/2 the flow you need with an M5. Obviously the MIN/MAX tune settings have a huge impact as well, but only to a point. I am sorry if I did not emphasise quite enough the need for a larger nozzle. What we do and what we recommend is done solely on the experience we have selling these kits to other vehicles. There is no "one size fits all" however after doing this a long as we have we have pretty much learned what works and what does not.
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with M5 i had it comming on at 4 psi, And like i was saying it would run real rich if i let it build from 35k up to 4k which is wheni reach full boost. But wot at 4k would not let the system build i guess and would run leaner. With M10 it seemed to do the same? But it wasent untill i messed with the controller is when it started to act right again. I have the M10 now, comming on at 10 psi and now i can wot at 4K, which does not allow it to "prime" and i get 11's afrs EVERY time. I like it ALOT better now lol. Im gonna keep the same set up, getting some injectors soon, and going to 20-22 psi, Hope it still acts the same.
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