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Old 11-20-2012, 01:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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currently have an in tank 044 with ID1000s doing e85.
Thinking about keeping the 044 intank and doing a intergrated engineering surge tank with built in 044 to Agp 1400cc. my goal is maxing my turbo out on e which is around 480-500.Is this overkill or will an 044 in tank and 1400s do.
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Im pretty sure one 044 will do for that power level, I'm going with there dual 044 surge tank setup just so I never have to upgrade my fuel system ever lol 400 to 800 don't matter ill be good.
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I am using an IE single pump surge tank running E90 thru DW1300's making ~610whp. You can't feed a surge tank with a Walbro pump because there is no pressure on the line and they don't work without it. I have a DW301 pump in-tank and it works great. Deatschwerks is introducing a line of surge tanks as well in Q1 2013.
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I am using an IE single pump surge tank running E90 thru DW1300's making ~610whp. You can't feed a surge tank with a Walbro pump because there is no pressure on the line and they don't work without it. I have a DW301 pump in-tank and it works great. Deatschwerks is introducing a line of surge tanks as well in Q1 2013.

So I can't use the stock pump to feed the surge? I've been wanting to pm you about this cause I knew you were using this setup. Thanks
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Nope. Without any pressure on the line the Walbro just spits and sputters. Unless I got a bad one, but it was a brand new HP 255.
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Nope. Without any pressure on the line the Walbro just spits and sputters. Unless I got a bad one, but it was a brand new HP 255.

You may have had a bad pump Doug.

I have a 255 in tank, feeding a surge tank containing an A1000 in it and have not had any issues with the 255....
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:47 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm thinking bad pump too.

OP: That will be way more fuel that you need to get to 500, but it will leave you room to grow.
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:49 PM   #8 (permalink)
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radium auto also makes surge tanks and also
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I agree with bad pump as well. Mine os setup that way and so is Jt among many others.
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Well it depends on how Doug had his setup - was he still using the stock FPR/Filter? If so, there was pressure in the line from that. If he was trying to feed a surge tank through a bottleneck fixed canister with a 255 in it then I couldn't really tell you how well that will work.

I'm using a 255 with stock feed line and FPR/Filter all the way to the front of the car then it's adapted to a -6an male end off the stock 5/16 hard line and from there it runs into the surge tank. No problems at all!
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There is another option to Integrated Engeneering. Might want to take a look at 034motorsports. I have one that I will be installing next week.

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Buy a surge tank from turbo666 ... exact replica of my setup. Then just run your pumps external.
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I'd rather have the pumps submerged, keeps the pumps cooler and less noise. Plus it takes up less room.
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^ True ill see if i can max out the single 044+ ID1000s first. replacing my sock from a jay racing to the mesh steel sock from fuelab to see if it fixes my lean issues.
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Does anyone know the fuel tank sending unit opening?I.D in."
Lot's of options.. surge/sump and many ways to do both.
I want it for road racing, I'd like to use a bigger tank like 16gal.
So I don't like most of the surge tanks out there, the sump would work perfect with a steel fuel tank. Like the one the 1st gen neon uses... and it would be a baffle sump with 2 external fuel pumps. I like one surge tank out there, the rest seem to be $$ suckers IMO
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