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Old 09-11-2009, 06:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Supporting Fuel for 500-600 hp????

What all do i need to support 500-600 hp? Im unsure if i can use a single walboro or if i will have to upgrade to a dual fuel pump set up. And also what injector size? would rc 1000 be enough?
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I wouldn't trust pushing a single walbro that much. Two would be better. Check out the Full Blown dual pump in-tank setup. Or you can order a sumped tank from DCR and run an external pump and never worry about fuel again. Look into the Injector Dynamics 1000cc injectors. You can adjust the fuel pressure with these, making them a 1000cc - 1500cc injector if necessary. They will help the car idle like stock too.
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look into a bosch 044 pump (search)
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Old 09-11-2009, 10:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks man.. I will def do that.. O just wanted someone elses opinion about pumps.. I will check out them injectors too
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Old 09-12-2009, 09:04 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Do an advanced search in this forum only for my name "NachO_SRT" and check out some of the set-up I have.

Tons of pictures and even a write up:

HERE!


I currently run a 044 in tank: see pics and an inline 044. I'm working on a surge tank as I will require a steady supply of fuel in "high G" situations. I like my roads like I like my women, Kinky.

Anyhow, the jist of it is, at that HP level what fuel will you run and what is your tollerance for breaking shit... Please keep in mind there is a HUGE $$$$$ difference between a 450-500 WHP car and a 550-600 WHP car. Huge, shit just goes, PATOOIE...replace me... at 550+

I use E-85, and I use ID 1000's like mentioned above, with a maximum potential flow of 1525CC. I can assure you these injectors work up to about ~125psi rail pressure. Other injectors may not even open with a pressure that high.

I overshot my fuel system by a good 30% of my power goal. For a reason.

Good luck on the build up, and keep doing what your doing right now, reading learning and asking.


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Those bosch pumps are nice!!!

Im really thinking about selling my FIC 1250cc and getting some ID 1000cc's. I only got them because i was planning on running E85 but things have changed...Even with 1000cc's and dual walbros i should be able to puch 530-550 ish i would suppose.
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Quote: Originally Posted by supermech21 View Post
Those bosch pumps are nice!!!

Im really thinking about selling my FIC 1250cc and getting some ID 1000cc's. I only got them because i was planning on running E85 but things have changed...Even with 1000cc's and dual walbros i should be able to puch 530-550 ish i would suppose.

2 X 255LPH will support 550 on Gas.


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Here is what you need.

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Quote: Originally Posted by NachO_SRT View Post
2 X 255LPH will support 550 on Gas.


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They'll support a good bit more than that. Known by experience. If they can support 630whp on E85, they can support quite a bit more on gas!

Unless you're talking 2 x 255 in series...then that may be all they can handle.
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Quote: Originally Posted by NemoFoss View Post
Here is what you need.


We made 728 whp on 1000cc RC's with this setup.
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Quote: Originally Posted by NemoFoss View Post
Here is what you need.


If i only had LOTS of money, i would have that set up..................well then again if i would have ALOT of money i would not be in a NEON
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Quote: Originally Posted by NemoFoss View Post
Here is what you need.


So just a stock fuel pump feeds a surge tank that then feeds 2 external fuel pumps...Correct?
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yep.. $749 with lines fittings adaptors relays fuses wire, pumps and tank..
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not to shaby but how long is the ragtec wait?
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You know, Nemo, I've always liked this idea. But one concern I've always had is the possibility of fuel starvation during a hard, long left hand turn. What about making a tank that had an angle to it? Or even a triangular tank? That way, gravity would pull the fuel down to the bottom of the tank where the feed lines are!
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