Single inline 044 with sump. - Page 5 - SRT Forums

Chief · 01-30-2013, 02:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Chief

Eric said he WOULD work a deal with us.

Im just wondering though, do you think two 044s could literaly suck so much fuel that it would cause a air pocket in the sump with a full tank of gas? Do they have that much sucking power?

Be cool if someone did a test with something clear, and you could watch what happened inside when the pumps where sucking at full power.

Im actaully gonna talk to eric about that, and see if they have done any testing like this to see if they had any cav issues.

Anyone have any take on that?

Im pretty sure single feed wont be a issue but duals.......

idk

triangles · 01-30-2013, 04:40 PM

I'm in on the group buy anyone else? Need 10 people

tunerlover3 · 01-30-2013, 04:50 PM

He needs to be a vendor here to do a group buy.

Chief · 01-30-2013, 04:53 PM

Ok so let me ask if u are thinking about buying a sump, message me

Sent from

GETGONESRT · 01-30-2013, 06:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Chief

Anyone have any take on that?

Im pretty sure single feed wont be a issue but duals.......

idk

Now after thinking about it I don't know... Not sure how quick the 044 can displace fluid and if there is enough "volume" in that sump. Good thought!

GETGONESRT · 01-30-2013, 07:01 PM

Just thinking out loud. What if you ran two sumps. Then ran 1 feed to each pump then from the outlet of the 044 join the 2 lines into 1 actual feed to the rail. Not sure if they make a union that size though...

tunerlover3 · 01-30-2013, 07:13 PM

That would be kinda expensive and not needed.

This is how I would do it with a dual pump set up:
1 sump with two fittings on it. One fitting having a Y on it going to both the pumps. The other fitting would be used for the return. That way fuel is always getting pumped into the sump.

D-SRT · 01-30-2013, 07:17 PM

So you'd want to spend $350+ in sumps...instead of buying an external fuel cell for $130?...sounds more complicating, and left with a fuel tank that's got two 3" holes in it when all said and done.

I think you guys having problems with fuel sock starvation problems just need to rethink how you locate the pump/fuel/lines/sock in the tank.

D-SRT · 01-30-2013, 07:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3

That would be kinda expensive and not needed.

This is how I would do it with a dual pump set up:
1 sump with two fittings on it. One fitting having a Y on it going to both the pumps. The other fitting would be used for the return. That way fuel is always getting pumped into the sump.

WinnAr.

this works

Chief · 01-30-2013, 07:25 PM

Never thought about returning the fuel back to the sump piece!!!

U don't think it would cause turbulence though do you? From the fuel coming in and then it trying to suck it out?

Sent from

D-SRT · 01-30-2013, 07:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Chief

Never thought about returning the fuel back to the sump piece!!!

U don't think it would cause turbulence though do you? From the fuel coming in and then it trying to suck it out?

Sent from

Tuner isn't talking about that. though you surely can dump the return to the sump (the problem is keeping the return in a position so it cant sway with the fuel).

Re-read it.

GETGONESRT · 01-30-2013, 07:42 PM

I was just thinking out loud. I wouldn't do all that. I'd fuel cell it before I did all that.

tunerlover3 · 01-30-2013, 07:49 PM

I am talking about returning fuel into the sump Mike.

GETGONESRT · 01-30-2013, 07:54 PM

I was thinking that too. Just was also wondering about the turbulence it would cause. Lol soo many options lol. I may just keep returning fuel through the factory canister...

GETGONESRT · 01-30-2013, 08:06 PM

Also anyone know what the thread is on the outlet of the sump? Looks to be an NPT fitting just wondering.

01-30-2013, 02:48 PM	#61 (permalink)
Chief SRTforums Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Member Number: 61336 Location: Afuckistan Posts: 9,146	Quote: Originally Posted by Chief Eric said he WOULD work a deal with us. Im just wondering though, do you think two 044s could literaly suck so much fuel that it would cause a air pocket in the sump with a full tank of gas? Do they have that much sucking power? Be cool if someone did a test with something clear, and you could watch what happened inside when the pumps where sucking at full power. Im actaully gonna talk to eric about that, and see if they have done any testing like this to see if they had any cav issues. Anyone have any take on that? Im pretty sure single feed wont be a issue but duals....... idk __________________ 'freedom's not free' 24-25psi 61mm 11.6@120 @3650ft

01-30-2013, 04:40 PM	#62 (permalink)
triangles SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Member Number: 80981 Location: riverbank ca Posts: 594	Re: Single inline 044 with sump. I'm in on the group buy anyone else? Need 10 people __________________ 05 flame red bw Stage 3 47lb 20g By Mole' *daily driven* E85

01-30-2013, 04:50 PM	#63 (permalink)
tunerlover3 Fresh Meat Moderator Join Date: Dec 2009 Member Number: 76568 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,617	He needs to be a vendor here to do a group buy. __________________ Diablo CMR tuner ~Dan~ 2004 Black Neon SRT4: E85 stock turbo SOLD 310HP 436TQ 2004 Eblue Neon SRT4: E85 5558 XXXHP XXXTQ

01-30-2013, 04:53 PM	#64 (permalink)
Chief SRTforums Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Member Number: 61336 Location: Afuckistan Posts: 9,146	Single inline 044 with sump. Ok so let me ask if u are thinking about buying a sump, message me Sent from __________________ 'freedom's not free' 24-25psi 61mm 11.6@120 @3650ft

01-30-2013, 06:18 PM	#65 (permalink)
GETGONESRT Premium Member Join Date: May 2010 Member Number: 79119 Location: Brunswick, OH Posts: 694	Quote: Originally Posted by Chief Anyone have any take on that? Im pretty sure single feed wont be a issue but duals....... idk Now after thinking about it I don't know... Not sure how quick the 044 can displace fluid and if there is enough "volume" in that sump. Good thought! __________________ 05 SRT-4 Custom 3 inch downpipe, JMB TiAL hard pipe, DSP 93 Octane tune, Mopar short shifter,Boomba fuel rail, Saikou Michi dual catch cans, BWoody Solid motor mounts, AGP solid trans mount, DCR 4th mount, DCR Oil pump, DCR Direct fit 6061 strap kit, DCR oil pick-up, MPX Big oil filter kit, ProAuto clutch line,PWerks small battery, BC BR coilovers, MPX solid LCA's, CBD ELW lip, Stern ST-1

01-30-2013, 07:01 PM	#66 (permalink)
GETGONESRT Premium Member Join Date: May 2010 Member Number: 79119 Location: Brunswick, OH Posts: 694	Just thinking out loud. What if you ran two sumps. Then ran 1 feed to each pump then from the outlet of the 044 join the 2 lines into 1 actual feed to the rail. Not sure if they make a union that size though... __________________ 05 SRT-4 Custom 3 inch downpipe, JMB TiAL hard pipe, DSP 93 Octane tune, Mopar short shifter,Boomba fuel rail, Saikou Michi dual catch cans, BWoody Solid motor mounts, AGP solid trans mount, DCR 4th mount, DCR Oil pump, DCR Direct fit 6061 strap kit, DCR oil pick-up, MPX Big oil filter kit, ProAuto clutch line,PWerks small battery, BC BR coilovers, MPX solid LCA's, CBD ELW lip, Stern ST-1

01-30-2013, 07:13 PM	#67 (permalink)
tunerlover3 Fresh Meat Moderator Join Date: Dec 2009 Member Number: 76568 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,617	That would be kinda expensive and not needed. This is how I would do it with a dual pump set up: 1 sump with two fittings on it. One fitting having a Y on it going to both the pumps. The other fitting would be used for the return. That way fuel is always getting pumped into the sump. __________________ Diablo CMR tuner ~Dan~ 2004 Black Neon SRT4: E85 stock turbo SOLD 310HP 436TQ 2004 Eblue Neon SRT4: E85 5558 XXXHP XXXTQ

01-30-2013, 07:17 PM	#68 (permalink)
D-SRT SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Member Number: 80561 Location: monterey Posts: 660	So you'd want to spend $350+ in sumps...instead of buying an external fuel cell for $130?...sounds more complicating, and left with a fuel tank that's got two 3" holes in it when all said and done. I think you guys having problems with fuel sock starvation problems just need to rethink how you locate the pump/fuel/lines/sock in the tank. __________________ Pumpking. 10.71@140. 1st SRT in TENS in CA. Thanks to: TUNED BY MINDMELT101@DRAG-ON Tuning. - http://drag-ontuning.com/blog/ GOKEY RACING for anything fabrication related instagram for updates and pics: m_santiago37

01-30-2013, 07:19 PM	#69 (permalink)
D-SRT SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Member Number: 80561 Location: monterey Posts: 660	Quote: Originally Posted by tunerlover3 That would be kinda expensive and not needed. This is how I would do it with a dual pump set up: 1 sump with two fittings on it. One fitting having a Y on it going to both the pumps. The other fitting would be used for the return. That way fuel is always getting pumped into the sump. WinnAr. this works __________________ Pumpking. 10.71@140. 1st SRT in TENS in CA. Thanks to: TUNED BY MINDMELT101@DRAG-ON Tuning. - http://drag-ontuning.com/blog/ GOKEY RACING for anything fabrication related instagram for updates and pics: m_santiago37

01-30-2013, 07:25 PM	#70 (permalink)
Chief SRTforums Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Member Number: 61336 Location: Afuckistan Posts: 9,146	Single inline 044 with sump. Never thought about returning the fuel back to the sump piece!!! U don't think it would cause turbulence though do you? From the fuel coming in and then it trying to suck it out? Sent from __________________ 'freedom's not free' 24-25psi 61mm 11.6@120 @3650ft

01-30-2013, 07:35 PM	#71 (permalink)
D-SRT SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Member Number: 80561 Location: monterey Posts: 660	Quote: Originally Posted by Chief Never thought about returning the fuel back to the sump piece!!! U don't think it would cause turbulence though do you? From the fuel coming in and then it trying to suck it out? Sent from Tuner isn't talking about that. though you surely can dump the return to the sump (the problem is keeping the return in a position so it cant sway with the fuel). Re-read it. __________________ Pumpking. 10.71@140. 1st SRT in TENS in CA. Thanks to: TUNED BY MINDMELT101@DRAG-ON Tuning. - http://drag-ontuning.com/blog/ GOKEY RACING for anything fabrication related instagram for updates and pics: m_santiago37

01-30-2013, 07:42 PM	#72 (permalink)
GETGONESRT Premium Member Join Date: May 2010 Member Number: 79119 Location: Brunswick, OH Posts: 694	I was just thinking out loud. I wouldn't do all that. I'd fuel cell it before I did all that. __________________ 05 SRT-4 Custom 3 inch downpipe, JMB TiAL hard pipe, DSP 93 Octane tune, Mopar short shifter,Boomba fuel rail, Saikou Michi dual catch cans, BWoody Solid motor mounts, AGP solid trans mount, DCR 4th mount, DCR Oil pump, DCR Direct fit 6061 strap kit, DCR oil pick-up, MPX Big oil filter kit, ProAuto clutch line,PWerks small battery, BC BR coilovers, MPX solid LCA's, CBD ELW lip, Stern ST-1

01-30-2013, 07:49 PM	#73 (permalink)
tunerlover3 Fresh Meat Moderator Join Date: Dec 2009 Member Number: 76568 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,617	I am talking about returning fuel into the sump Mike. __________________ Diablo CMR tuner ~Dan~ 2004 Black Neon SRT4: E85 stock turbo SOLD 310HP 436TQ 2004 Eblue Neon SRT4: E85 5558 XXXHP XXXTQ

01-30-2013, 07:54 PM	#74 (permalink)
GETGONESRT Premium Member Join Date: May 2010 Member Number: 79119 Location: Brunswick, OH Posts: 694	I was thinking that too. Just was also wondering about the turbulence it would cause. Lol soo many options lol. I may just keep returning fuel through the factory canister... __________________ 05 SRT-4 Custom 3 inch downpipe, JMB TiAL hard pipe, DSP 93 Octane tune, Mopar short shifter,Boomba fuel rail, Saikou Michi dual catch cans, BWoody Solid motor mounts, AGP solid trans mount, DCR 4th mount, DCR Oil pump, DCR Direct fit 6061 strap kit, DCR oil pick-up, MPX Big oil filter kit, ProAuto clutch line,PWerks small battery, BC BR coilovers, MPX solid LCA's, CBD ELW lip, Stern ST-1

01-30-2013, 08:06 PM	#75 (permalink)
GETGONESRT Premium Member Join Date: May 2010 Member Number: 79119 Location: Brunswick, OH Posts: 694	Also anyone know what the thread is on the outlet of the sump? Looks to be an NPT fitting just wondering. __________________ 05 SRT-4 Custom 3 inch downpipe, JMB TiAL hard pipe, DSP 93 Octane tune, Mopar short shifter,Boomba fuel rail, Saikou Michi dual catch cans, BWoody Solid motor mounts, AGP solid trans mount, DCR 4th mount, DCR Oil pump, DCR Direct fit 6061 strap kit, DCR oil pick-up, MPX Big oil filter kit, ProAuto clutch line,PWerks small battery, BC BR coilovers, MPX solid LCA's, CBD ELW lip, Stern ST-1

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