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Old 01-30-2013, 10:06 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Default Single inline 044 with sump.

I know bdp and Hellman say middle tank, but I would think further back towards the back of the tank would benefit more durning wot?


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Default Single inline 044 with sump.

I also kit talked to Eric from
Bdp and he said that deep vs shallow sump they saw no difference in fuel feeding capabilities. And have had no complaints from any customers. And yes they did just quit making deep sumps.


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I dunno if I am retarded but I don't understand what I'm looking at. I changed the numbers to what my setup will be then the graph showed up... Ill have to keep playing with it.
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Default Single inline 044 with sump.

Eric said they tested it with airdog 200 with. No issues, and single 044. Apparently the dog 200s are good for 1000 on diesel.


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I may talk to Eric about a possible group buy see what he can do for us.


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I dunno if I am retarded but I don't understand what I'm looking at. I changed the numbers to what my setup will be then the graph showed up... Ill have to keep playing with it.

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Ok, if you want a shallow one, go for it. I'm just outlining the reasons as to why I would not opt for a low profile sump over a regular depth one. Minus the lip, the low-pro is only ~1". Not even a 1/4 way down the sump, the outlet starts to not be fully submerged.

The shallow sump with 2 feeds? Even worse.

I just think if you're going to go through the hassle of cutting your tank up, you should atleast get one with a little bit of depth so it can hold some volume. Which is the whole purpose of even doing a sump... a compartment with sufficient volume needs so your fuel pump doesn't suck dry in low gas situations.
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Ok, if you want a shallow one, go for it. I'm just outlining the reasons as to why I would not opt for a low profile sump over a regular depth one. Minus the lip, the low-pro is only ~1". Not even a 1/4 way down the sump, the outlet starts to not be fully submerged.

The shallow sump with 2 feeds? Even worse.

I just think if you're going to go through the hassle of cutting your tank up, you should atleast get one with a little bit of depth so it can hold some volume. Which is the whole purpose of even doing a sump... a compartment with sufficient volume needs so your fuel pump doesn't suck dry in low gas situations.

i agree my sump is 2 in deep and 4 long and tappers up to the tank...

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I'd go with a deep sump mainly for piece of mind.I agree defeats the purpose of hacking into the tank.And being low I can't use the full potential of a 044? Lol why...I guess low cars can't go fast.... I went and measured down ground clearance last night.. Oil pan is about 4 1/4"off the ground.. Gas tank is about 5 inches. Add the sump so lets say 3". It looks low but I figure my exhaust hangs Lower and doesn't hit so ill be good. Probably do some kind of skid plate.Also have to raise the rear 1/2" to be level with the front anyways..


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I'll have to do it tonight. I'm not to sure on what I am entering too. Think of doing a 5831,single 044, e85... Not sure on injector size or fuel pressure.
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i agree my sump is 2 in deep and 4 long and tappers up to the tank...



I wished we could incorporate the universal metal ones that jegs/summit sell into our plastic tank.

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Eric said he WOULD work a deal with us.

Im just wondering though, do you think two 044s could literaly suck so much fuel that it would cause a air pocket in the sump with a full tank of gas? Do they have that much sucking power?

Be cool if someone did a test with something clear, and you could watch what happened inside when the pumps where sucking at full power.

Im actaully gonna talk to eric about that, and see if they have done any testing like this to see if they had any cav issues.
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Eric said he WOULD work a deal with us.

Im just wondering though, do you think two 044s could literaly suck so much fuel that it would cause a air pocket in the sump with a full tank of gas? Do they have that much sucking power?

Be cool if someone did a test with something clear, and you could watch what happened inside when the pumps where sucking at full power.

Im actaully gonna talk to eric about that, and see if they have done any testing like this to see if they had any cav issues.

I called eric just now I'm going to test the sump out on my car it will ship out next week I'll be the test dummy on the sump single -8 fitting with a single inline pump.
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And being low I can't use the full potential of a 044? Lol why...I guess low cars can't go fast....


The term of 'fast' is relative, I guess.

What I meant was if you're honestly low enough where you are concerned about clearance, then chances are you can't utilize the full potential/hp abilities of what an 044 can offer because you wouldn't be able to stick a PROPER tire under there to save your life.
Sure, you could make 500hp+, but doesn't mean its fast if you got rubber band sized tires, rubbing the fenders, or worrying about avoiding pebbles.
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