Single inline 044 with sump. - SRT Forums

GETGONESRT · 01-28-2013, 06:35 PM

I am thinking of re doing my fuel system for my big turbo this year and have been looking at the bosch 044. What I would like to do is run one of these universal Hellman sumps have that go to an 044 then just return fuel into the factory canister. Now is that possible? I am trying to not have a surge tank and. Am tired of hacking pump housings. I will be running 93 and race gas occasionally. Please let me know what you think and if that will be enough for around 450 500... I appreciate the help.

tunerlover3 · 01-28-2013, 06:42 PM

Sumped Fuel Tank and Bosch 044 with Pics

GETGONESRT · 01-28-2013, 07:11 PM

Thanks tuner. That's the only thread that I could find with anyone just running that. You think it will work well?

tunerlover3 · 01-28-2013, 07:35 PM

Yep. Car I will be buying next has that setup. Runs great at 28PSI on E85 with a 5431.

GETGONESRT · 01-28-2013, 07:37 PM

Good shit that's my setup except no corn for me....

**John203** · 01-28-2013, 07:43 PM

this will also be my setup soon within the next few weeks , except with a 6an feed and 4an return , will a 4an return be enough to bleed off fuel fast enough ?

Millernz123 · 01-28-2013, 07:47 PM

Yeah I would like to get this pump also, do you know if this will work well with the Walbro 255 in tank I have the BNF and return line.

Millernz123 · 01-28-2013, 07:55 PM

I seen Jay's racing has these for $189 and they are suppose to be updated. Jay Racing Pro Series 044 Fuel Pump [044001] - $189.00 : Jay Racing

GETGONESRT · 01-29-2013, 04:53 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Millernz123

Yeah I would like to get this pump also, do you know if this will work well with the Walbro 255 in tank I have the BNF and return line.

I think to do that you need to add a surge tank... Correct me if I am wrong but I'm pretty sure you do. That's why I am not doing that.

Millernz123 · 01-29-2013, 10:43 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by GETGONESRT

I think to do that you need to add a surge tank... Correct me if I am wrong but I'm pretty sure you do. That's why I am not doing that.

Yeah, if a surge tank is needed to run that inline with the 255 then I most likely will not be doing this either.

KillaB · 01-29-2013, 11:18 AM

How would this sump tank do with a some what daily driver or weekend warrior? Anyone worried about fuel sloshing around on low fuel levels?

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Chief · 01-29-2013, 11:24 AM

thats the point of a sump.....

GETGONESRT · 01-29-2013, 11:52 AM

Exactly lol. A sump is just basically a small tank in a tank to hold fuel by your pickup while fuel is sloshing or moving around... Also it makes it a little easier with not having to mod a canister...

KillaB · 01-29-2013, 12:26 PM

I know the point of the sump. Lol. But I'm always over worried about situations. Say fuel light is on left or right hand corner with a bump. Fuel settles somewhere else in the tank for a short period of time and pump sucks air. Then you could always argue the fact not to drive like a jackass on low low fuel levels also. Lol Obviously I don't have experience with a sump. So I would ask the questions before just diving in.

That's the only reason I haven't bought the sump. I had a extra canister and started to mod it for the 044. The sump seems like less of a headache if something goes wrong.

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Chief · 01-29-2013, 12:57 PM

I plan on bdp sump with dual jay 044s

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01-28-2013, 06:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
GETGONESRT Premium Member Join Date: May 2010 Member Number: 79119 Location: Brunswick, OH Posts: 694	Single inline 044 with sump. I am thinking of re doing my fuel system for my big turbo this year and have been looking at the bosch 044. What I would like to do is run one of these universal Hellman sumps have that go to an 044 then just return fuel into the factory canister. Now is that possible? I am trying to not have a surge tank and. Am tired of hacking pump housings. I will be running 93 and race gas occasionally. Please let me know what you think and if that will be enough for around 450 500... I appreciate the help. __________________ 05 SRT-4 Custom 3 inch downpipe, JMB TiAL hard pipe, DSP 93 Octane tune, Mopar short shifter,Boomba fuel rail, Saikou Michi dual catch cans, BWoody Solid motor mounts, AGP solid trans mount, DCR 4th mount, DCR Oil pump, DCR Direct fit 6061 strap kit, DCR oil pick-up, MPX Big oil filter kit, ProAuto clutch line,PWerks small battery, BC BR coilovers, MPX solid LCA's, CBD ELW lip, Stern ST-1

01-28-2013, 06:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
tunerlover3 Fresh Meat Moderator Join Date: Dec 2009 Member Number: 76568 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,617	Sumped Fuel Tank and Bosch 044 with Pics __________________ Diablo CMR tuner ~Dan~ 2004 Black Neon SRT4: E85 stock turbo SOLD 310HP 436TQ 2004 Eblue Neon SRT4: E85 5558 XXXHP XXXTQ

01-28-2013, 07:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
GETGONESRT Premium Member Join Date: May 2010 Member Number: 79119 Location: Brunswick, OH Posts: 694	Thanks tuner. That's the only thread that I could find with anyone just running that. You think it will work well? __________________ 05 SRT-4 Custom 3 inch downpipe, JMB TiAL hard pipe, DSP 93 Octane tune, Mopar short shifter,Boomba fuel rail, Saikou Michi dual catch cans, BWoody Solid motor mounts, AGP solid trans mount, DCR 4th mount, DCR Oil pump, DCR Direct fit 6061 strap kit, DCR oil pick-up, MPX Big oil filter kit, ProAuto clutch line,PWerks small battery, BC BR coilovers, MPX solid LCA's, CBD ELW lip, Stern ST-1

01-28-2013, 07:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
tunerlover3 Fresh Meat Moderator Join Date: Dec 2009 Member Number: 76568 Location: Chicago Posts: 16,617	Yep. Car I will be buying next has that setup. Runs great at 28PSI on E85 with a 5431. __________________ Diablo CMR tuner ~Dan~ 2004 Black Neon SRT4: E85 stock turbo SOLD 310HP 436TQ 2004 Eblue Neon SRT4: E85 5558 XXXHP XXXTQ

01-28-2013, 07:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
GETGONESRT Premium Member Join Date: May 2010 Member Number: 79119 Location: Brunswick, OH Posts: 694	Good shit that's my setup except no corn for me.... __________________ 05 SRT-4 Custom 3 inch downpipe, JMB TiAL hard pipe, DSP 93 Octane tune, Mopar short shifter,Boomba fuel rail, Saikou Michi dual catch cans, BWoody Solid motor mounts, AGP solid trans mount, DCR 4th mount, DCR Oil pump, DCR Direct fit 6061 strap kit, DCR oil pick-up, MPX Big oil filter kit, ProAuto clutch line,PWerks small battery, BC BR coilovers, MPX solid LCA's, CBD ELW lip, Stern ST-1

01-28-2013, 07:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
John203 Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Apr 2010 Member Number: 78805 Location: ct Posts: 1,142	this will also be my setup soon within the next few weeks , except with a 6an feed and 4an return , will a 4an return be enough to bleed off fuel fast enough ? __________________ Dcr Option A + Cncport Street Storm head + DBB 6262 =

01-28-2013, 07:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
Millernz123 SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Member Number: 60887 Location: Muncie,Indiana Posts: 213	Yeah I would like to get this pump also, do you know if this will work well with the Walbro 255 in tank I have the BNF and return line. __________________ http://www.indianasrt.com/ Built motor by Kriegspeed

01-28-2013, 07:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
Millernz123 SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Member Number: 60887 Location: Muncie,Indiana Posts: 213	I seen Jay's racing has these for $189 and they are suppose to be updated. Jay Racing Pro Series 044 Fuel Pump [044001] - $189.00 : Jay Racing __________________ http://www.indianasrt.com/ Built motor by Kriegspeed

01-29-2013, 04:53 AM	#9 (permalink)
GETGONESRT Premium Member Join Date: May 2010 Member Number: 79119 Location: Brunswick, OH Posts: 694	Quote: Originally Posted by Millernz123 Yeah I would like to get this pump also, do you know if this will work well with the Walbro 255 in tank I have the BNF and return line. I think to do that you need to add a surge tank... Correct me if I am wrong but I'm pretty sure you do. That's why I am not doing that. __________________ 05 SRT-4 Custom 3 inch downpipe, JMB TiAL hard pipe, DSP 93 Octane tune, Mopar short shifter,Boomba fuel rail, Saikou Michi dual catch cans, BWoody Solid motor mounts, AGP solid trans mount, DCR 4th mount, DCR Oil pump, DCR Direct fit 6061 strap kit, DCR oil pick-up, MPX Big oil filter kit, ProAuto clutch line,PWerks small battery, BC BR coilovers, MPX solid LCA's, CBD ELW lip, Stern ST-1

01-29-2013, 10:43 AM	#10 (permalink)
Millernz123 SRTforums Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Member Number: 60887 Location: Muncie,Indiana Posts: 213	Quote: Originally Posted by GETGONESRT I think to do that you need to add a surge tank... Correct me if I am wrong but I'm pretty sure you do. That's why I am not doing that. Yeah, if a surge tank is needed to run that inline with the 255 then I most likely will not be doing this either. __________________ http://www.indianasrt.com/ Built motor by Kriegspeed

01-29-2013, 11:18 AM	#11 (permalink)
KillaB SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Member Number: 85871 Location: Kansas Posts: 190	Single inline 044 with sump. How would this sump tank do with a some what daily driver or weekend warrior? Anyone worried about fuel sloshing around on low fuel levels? Sent from __________________ 2003 Solar Yellow 12.79 @108.23

01-29-2013, 11:24 AM	#12 (permalink)
Chief SRTforums Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Member Number: 61336 Location: Afuckistan Posts: 9,146	thats the point of a sump..... __________________ 'freedom's not free' 24-25psi 61mm 11.6@120 @3650ft

01-29-2013, 11:52 AM	#13 (permalink)
GETGONESRT Premium Member Join Date: May 2010 Member Number: 79119 Location: Brunswick, OH Posts: 694	Exactly lol. A sump is just basically a small tank in a tank to hold fuel by your pickup while fuel is sloshing or moving around... Also it makes it a little easier with not having to mod a canister... __________________ 05 SRT-4 Custom 3 inch downpipe, JMB TiAL hard pipe, DSP 93 Octane tune, Mopar short shifter,Boomba fuel rail, Saikou Michi dual catch cans, BWoody Solid motor mounts, AGP solid trans mount, DCR 4th mount, DCR Oil pump, DCR Direct fit 6061 strap kit, DCR oil pick-up, MPX Big oil filter kit, ProAuto clutch line,PWerks small battery, BC BR coilovers, MPX solid LCA's, CBD ELW lip, Stern ST-1

01-29-2013, 12:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
KillaB SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Member Number: 85871 Location: Kansas Posts: 190	Single inline 044 with sump. I know the point of the sump. Lol. But I'm always over worried about situations. Say fuel light is on left or right hand corner with a bump. Fuel settles somewhere else in the tank for a short period of time and pump sucks air. Then you could always argue the fact not to drive like a jackass on low low fuel levels also. Lol Obviously I don't have experience with a sump. So I would ask the questions before just diving in. That's the only reason I haven't bought the sump. I had a extra canister and started to mod it for the 044. The sump seems like less of a headache if something goes wrong. Sent from __________________ 2003 Solar Yellow 12.79 @108.23 Last edited by KillaB; 01-29-2013 at 12:28 PM.

01-29-2013, 12:57 PM	#15 (permalink)
Chief SRTforums Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Member Number: 61336 Location: Afuckistan Posts: 9,146	Single inline 044 with sump. I plan on bdp sump with dual jay 044s Sent from __________________ 'freedom's not free' 24-25psi 61mm 11.6@120 @3650ft

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