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nutz · 08-17-2009, 01:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by chuck's_srt-4

Here you guys go:

Bosch Fuel Pump Pre-filter Fuel Sock For 044 [BFP-PF1] - $50.00 : Jay Racing

The price is a little steep, but, well...you guys know the saying!

perfect

boots · 08-17-2009, 01:17 PM

Heres the thread where the 044 was used intake and with an inline. The guy is also on E85 so I think the pump should be fine. Bosh 044 in tank, to bosh 044 inline with pics.

reed32 · 08-17-2009, 01:41 PM

i found this site that carries the filter
Pegasus - Fuel Safe ASA 5700 Sock Filter

**NoisufnoC** · 08-17-2009, 01:45 PM

its also my understanding that the 044 performs better at higher fuel pressures than the wally 255. especially helpful if you run 1:1 rising rate fuel pressure.

reed32 · 08-17-2009, 01:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NoisufnoC

its also my understanding that the 044 performs better at higher fuel pressures than the wally 255. especially helpful if you run 1:1 rising rate fuel pressure.

thats correct. from my readings on other forums, the bosch pump isn't much louder than the wally 255 pump in the tank.

boots · 08-17-2009, 01:52 PM

I just looked, I think its $18 for the filter and $30 for the adapter to make it work on the 044. So really it's about the same price.

Quote: Originally Posted by reed32

i found this site that carries the filter
Pegasus - Fuel Safe ASA 5700 Sock Filter

reed32 · 08-17-2009, 01:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by boots

I just looked, I think its $18 for the filter and $30 for the adapter to make it work on the 044. So really it's about the same price.

yeah it is

boots · 08-17-2009, 01:58 PM

I was hoping I was wrong

Quote: Originally Posted by reed32

yeah it is

nutz · 08-17-2009, 02:04 PM

think i would be OK with stock fuel line, i think its comparable to -6 line

reed32 · 08-17-2009, 02:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by nutz

think i would be OK with stock fuel line, i think its comparable to -6 line

you have to upgrade your fuel line

boots · 08-17-2009, 02:12 PM

I would go ahead and do atleast a 8n or 10n for feed and I'm doing a 6n for my return. But I'm doing E85, so i want to flow a lot more volume. I might do a walbro feeding the 044 pump, may put a 1-2 gallon in between them not sure.

nutz · 08-17-2009, 03:09 PM

OK, well my regulator is only -6, and i'm being cheap. i dont think i will see over 600 (dont need to)..seeing as mid 4's scared the life outa me. but then again the 35r comes on very slow a gentile

chuck's_srt-4 · 08-17-2009, 03:29 PM

The bosch 044 is very potent at high pressures! It's max pressure rating is 150 psi.

If you want a pump that is specifically designed for high pressure systems, the Bosch 413 pump is rated at >200 LPH @ 8 BAR.

**NachO_SRT** · 08-17-2009, 03:47 PM

Just found this thread.

My current fuel set up, 044 in tank, -8 feed to 044 inline -8 feed to rail, -8 to magnafuel regulator (70 psi base 1:1 Boost/vac refrenced RR).

Flows just over 610lph. 150ish Gal/hour. It'll empty my tank in a couple of mins. With no head pressure.

I did get the jays racing fuel sock, it's a way better filter. This also eliminated the need for my old pre filter, 74 micron magnafuel.

The 044 is in tank, and it is ok so far. I may go back and conformal coat the connectors but none of the research I did lead me to belive that there was any danger of "spark" or fire. The only danger I found was the ability for E85 to work it's way into the inner housing through the electrical connectors and eat away the insulation, this may cause a ground fault condition.

All the damn info is written in Chezk or German, hard as balls to translate and not laugh...or fall asleep.

more pics can be found at NachO_SRT mkcperformance.com Blog

And the 044 info can be found on the main blog page: BOSCH 044 Fuel Pumps, now available mkcperformance.com Blog

Some good info in there.

If you have any questions or need any info on the 044, just ask. I'm running a full boost rail pressure of 100psi. ID 1000's are flowing 1525CC @ 100psi.

NachO

**NachO_SRT** · 08-17-2009, 04:04 PM

Bosh 044 Vs Walbro 255 LPH.

NachO

08-17-2009, 01:07 PM	#31 (permalink)
nutz SRTforums Member Join Date: May 2006 Member Number: 41700 Location: IB, Ca. Posts: 11,229	Quote: Originally Posted by chuck's_srt-4 Here you guys go: Bosch Fuel Pump Pre-filter Fuel Sock For 044 [BFP-PF1] - $50.00 : Jay Racing The price is a little steep, but, well...you guys know the saying! perfect __________________ JDP Dynomite tuning

08-17-2009, 01:17 PM	#32 (permalink)
boots SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Member Number: 67116 Location: Zanesville, OH Posts: 2,347	Heres the thread where the 044 was used intake and with an inline. The guy is also on E85 so I think the pump should be fine. Bosh 044 in tank, to bosh 044 inline with pics. __________________ 2004 stage 2-AEM ems-DCR intake manifold-crane 16's(stock valve train)-DCR automatic setup-dss axles-boomba fuel rail-boomba mounts-boomba throttle body-3in side exit exhaust- spearco intercooler- Borg Warner S360RS and PFI/Kevin Warren tubular manifold setup Soon to come, my high compression build New turbo setup and transmission setup

08-17-2009, 01:41 PM	#33 (permalink)
reed32 SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Member Number: 4648 Location: Pitts,CA Posts: 8,668	i found this site that carries the filter Pegasus - Fuel Safe ASA 5700 Sock Filter __________________ JnR Chase for 10's in norcal is on for DSP NEEDS PM only: Turbo66, Mindmelt,

08-17-2009, 01:45 PM	#34 (permalink)
NoisufnoC Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Dec 2002 Member Number: 136 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 12,153	its also my understanding that the 044 performs better at higher fuel pressures than the wally 255. especially helpful if you run 1:1 rising rate fuel pressure. __________________ I remember the days of... ...most of you weren't born yet. \|\| Mod List \|\| (Re)Build Thread \|\|

08-17-2009, 01:51 PM	#35 (permalink)
reed32 SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Member Number: 4648 Location: Pitts,CA Posts: 8,668	Quote: Originally Posted by NoisufnoC its also my understanding that the 044 performs better at higher fuel pressures than the wally 255. especially helpful if you run 1:1 rising rate fuel pressure. thats correct. from my readings on other forums, the bosch pump isn't much louder than the wally 255 pump in the tank. __________________ JnR Chase for 10's in norcal is on for DSP NEEDS PM only: Turbo66, Mindmelt,

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08-17-2009, 01:52 PM	#36 (permalink)
boots SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Member Number: 67116 Location: Zanesville, OH Posts: 2,347	I just looked, I think its $18 for the filter and $30 for the adapter to make it work on the 044. So really it's about the same price. Quote: Originally Posted by reed32 i found this site that carries the filter Pegasus - Fuel Safe ASA 5700 Sock Filter __________________ 2004 stage 2-AEM ems-DCR intake manifold-crane 16's(stock valve train)-DCR automatic setup-dss axles-boomba fuel rail-boomba mounts-boomba throttle body-3in side exit exhaust- spearco intercooler- Borg Warner S360RS and PFI/Kevin Warren tubular manifold setup Soon to come, my high compression build New turbo setup and transmission setup

08-17-2009, 01:53 PM	#37 (permalink)
reed32 SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Member Number: 4648 Location: Pitts,CA Posts: 8,668	Quote: Originally Posted by boots I just looked, I think its $18 for the filter and $30 for the adapter to make it work on the 044. So really it's about the same price. yeah it is __________________ JnR Chase for 10's in norcal is on for DSP NEEDS PM only: Turbo66, Mindmelt,

08-17-2009, 01:58 PM	#38 (permalink)
boots SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Member Number: 67116 Location: Zanesville, OH Posts: 2,347	I was hoping I was wrong Quote: Originally Posted by reed32 yeah it is __________________ 2004 stage 2-AEM ems-DCR intake manifold-crane 16's(stock valve train)-DCR automatic setup-dss axles-boomba fuel rail-boomba mounts-boomba throttle body-3in side exit exhaust- spearco intercooler- Borg Warner S360RS and PFI/Kevin Warren tubular manifold setup Soon to come, my high compression build New turbo setup and transmission setup

08-17-2009, 02:04 PM	#39 (permalink)
nutz SRTforums Member Join Date: May 2006 Member Number: 41700 Location: IB, Ca. Posts: 11,229	think i would be OK with stock fuel line, i think its comparable to -6 line __________________ JDP Dynomite tuning

08-17-2009, 02:05 PM	#40 (permalink)
reed32 SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Member Number: 4648 Location: Pitts,CA Posts: 8,668	Quote: Originally Posted by nutz think i would be OK with stock fuel line, i think its comparable to -6 line you have to upgrade your fuel line __________________ JnR Chase for 10's in norcal is on for DSP NEEDS PM only: Turbo66, Mindmelt,

08-17-2009, 02:12 PM	#41 (permalink)
boots SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Member Number: 67116 Location: Zanesville, OH Posts: 2,347	I would go ahead and do atleast a 8n or 10n for feed and I'm doing a 6n for my return. But I'm doing E85, so i want to flow a lot more volume. I might do a walbro feeding the 044 pump, may put a 1-2 gallon in between them not sure. __________________ 2004 stage 2-AEM ems-DCR intake manifold-crane 16's(stock valve train)-DCR automatic setup-dss axles-boomba fuel rail-boomba mounts-boomba throttle body-3in side exit exhaust- spearco intercooler- Borg Warner S360RS and PFI/Kevin Warren tubular manifold setup Soon to come, my high compression build New turbo setup and transmission setup

08-17-2009, 03:09 PM	#42 (permalink)
nutz SRTforums Member Join Date: May 2006 Member Number: 41700 Location: IB, Ca. Posts: 11,229	OK, well my regulator is only -6, and i'm being cheap. i dont think i will see over 600 (dont need to)..seeing as mid 4's scared the life outa me. but then again the 35r comes on very slow a gentile __________________ JDP Dynomite tuning

08-17-2009, 03:29 PM	#43 (permalink)
chuck's_srt-4 SRTforums Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Member Number: 12569 Location: Utah Posts: 2,866	The bosch 044 is very potent at high pressures! It's max pressure rating is 150 psi. If you want a pump that is specifically designed for high pressure systems, the Bosch 413 pump is rated at >200 LPH @ 8 BAR. __________________ MY FAVORITE EQUATIONS: Fuel Volume = (HP * BSFC) / (# of injectors * IDC) CFM = C.I.D. * RPM * V.E. .5 / 1728 P.R. = (PSI Boost + 14.7) / 14.7 HP = TQ RPM / 5252

08-17-2009, 03:47 PM	#44 (permalink)
NachO_SRT Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Mar 2004 Member Number: 8662 Location: O.P. Kansas Posts: 2,688	Just found this thread. My current fuel set up, 044 in tank, -8 feed to 044 inline -8 feed to rail, -8 to magnafuel regulator (70 psi base 1:1 Boost/vac refrenced RR). Flows just over 610lph. 150ish Gal/hour. It'll empty my tank in a couple of mins. With no head pressure. I did get the jays racing fuel sock, it's a way better filter. This also eliminated the need for my old pre filter, 74 micron magnafuel. The 044 is in tank, and it is ok so far. I may go back and conformal coat the connectors but none of the research I did lead me to belive that there was any danger of "spark" or fire. The only danger I found was the ability for E85 to work it's way into the inner housing through the electrical connectors and eat away the insulation, this may cause a ground fault condition. All the damn info is written in Chezk or German, hard as balls to translate and not laugh...or fall asleep. more pics can be found at NachO_SRT mkcperformance.com Blog And the 044 info can be found on the main blog page: BOSCH 044 Fuel Pumps, now available mkcperformance.com Blog Some good info in there. If you have any questions or need any info on the 044, just ask. I'm running a full boost rail pressure of 100psi. ID 1000's are flowing 1525CC @ 100psi. NachO __________________ DD -09 STi \| Track Car. 2004 E-blue; Mods and pics: CLICK S259@ 25psi:614/567 -6/10, E85 - Meanblueberry.

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