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Orange ski · 10-15-2009, 10:43 AM

Ok this winter I'm goin to run e85 for next spring. I'm goin with walboro 255, Rewire kit, and pnp 750 injectors and AEM wide band with a tune form Pt-performance. Should I add anything or am I good?

Thanks

LinkLow · 10-15-2009, 01:04 PM

what are your hp goals?

Adionik · 10-15-2009, 01:06 PM

If you're staying on stock turbo and going 100%...I thiiiink you should be okay...might need a RL

Orange ski · 10-15-2009, 01:26 PM

Around 350-400 hp and over 400 tq with bolt ons and stayin with the stock turbo

LinkLow · 10-15-2009, 02:53 PM

I would say run a return line as well...just my .02

Orange ski · 10-15-2009, 03:05 PM

wouldnt that give me to much fuel?

Adionik · 10-16-2009, 03:32 PM

Nah, my return line is installed and it acts exactly like the stock one. You can just set the fuel pressure to 58psi and not hook up the rising rate. So your fuel pressure WON'T rise with every 1lb of boost. Kind of defeats the purpose, but I didn't need the extra fuel and couldn't pass up the deal.

I believe Nacho did a straight E85 build on stock turbo, using 1000CC injectors or something. Either way, 31xhp is about where it's going to end with stock turbo. You'd need to upgrade to an E1/SST/Shocker/Upgraded Stocker to see HP gains past that.

ST3PH3N'S SRT-4 · 10-16-2009, 11:54 PM

agree with adionik, and its ALWAYS good to have extra fuel with e85

nutz · 10-17-2009, 01:24 AM

I want E-85 sooo bad but san diego has like 1 place and it outa the way

E-85 > race fuel $$$$$$$

**NachO_SRT** · 10-17-2009, 06:44 AM

TADA!

I did use Injector Dynamics 1000CC's NO RETURN and a 255 with a pimp ass rewire done by Modified By KC (www.mkcperformance.com).

I tuned with an AEM EMS.

I did nothing to the intake or exhaust excepting an AGP DFIC, AGP 3 inch CAI and AGP Hardpipes with the HKS SSQV. That was the extent of my bolt ons for the intake.

I have an MPx 3" TBE Single exit, and used the MPx 3" O2 housing, both are top quality parts.

With this set-up @ 30ish PSI I was *spiking* 308/397. With port work a Throttle body, and some cam gears I could have seen 320-330 tops. More likely 315-320. With 420-440 Ftlbs.

On the above set-up I had no issues maintaing top of my run group staus at the road course. I picked up so much off the corners, but had to manage RPM range very tightly.

E85 around here is 1.71/gal to 2.31/gal within a 75 mile radius of my home. I have access to 4 E85 stations within 20 mins of my home. 15 or so within 75 miles. I was using Sunoco 110 - @ 8.51/Gal Available 2 places within 75 miles.

yeah, no brainer for my switch.

I went a little wild with my set-up and took lots of pics. MKC Presents NachO_SRT Oh yeah, my new Daily driver is a sub page (2009 STi)

I'm working on refitting the car for some Time Attack tries next year, looking to get at least some competitive track time under my belt. This winter: New Engine, New brakes, First SRT to use Pro-EFI?...We'll see.

Anyhow, good luck on the E85 switch, and as with anyone on this site, if I can answer your question, I'll try, just drop me a PM.

NachO

kkbsrt86 · 10-17-2009, 12:36 PM

How much is E85 running anyway?

boots · 10-17-2009, 12:59 PM

The closest station to me is 42mi's away, so I've been switching back and forth from E85 and 93. Whenever they finally bring a station closer I'll run it all the time.

Orange ski · 10-17-2009, 01:55 PM

well the good thing is I live like a mile away from a station

Adionik · 10-17-2009, 02:56 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by lblackneon

How much is E85 running anyway?

On average about $.50 cents cheaper than 93

Right now it's $1.89 and 93 is $2.55

I'd like to run E85 but I don't think I have enough fuel for it. Stage 2 injectors with a 255 and return line. I could probably run a 50/50...but mehh...

19 psi · 10-17-2009, 06:55 PM

lol who said 400 on the stocker. thats a little optimistic

maybe on 2.6 stroker and timing to hell, maybe then 400 on the stocker

good thing about e85 is i just paid $18 to fill the tank!!!

10-15-2009, 10:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
Orange ski SRTforums Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Member Number: 70601 Location: Wentzville Posts: 117	Goin Corn Fed Ok this winter I'm goin to run e85 for next spring. I'm goin with walboro 255, Rewire kit, and pnp 750 injectors and AEM wide band with a tune form Pt-performance. Should I add anything or am I good? Thanks __________________

10-15-2009, 01:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
LinkLow SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Member Number: 75469 Location: TX Posts: 108	what are your hp goals? __________________ 50 Trim DSP Stock Head/Built Bottom Full bolt ons

10-15-2009, 01:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
Adionik SRTforums Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Member Number: 51197 Location: San Antonio Posts: 18,021	If you're staying on stock turbo and going 100%...I thiiiink you should be okay...might need a RL __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by JPG dude your life story makes ME contemplate suicide... plz go get some pu$$y for christs sake! Quote: Originally Posted by Bthomp21 hahahah at thinking powdercoated parts are rice but cutting out crosshairs where it looks like a cat fish is not.

10-15-2009, 01:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
Orange ski SRTforums Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Member Number: 70601 Location: Wentzville Posts: 117	Around 350-400 hp and over 400 tq with bolt ons and stayin with the stock turbo __________________

10-15-2009, 02:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
LinkLow SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Member Number: 75469 Location: TX Posts: 108	I would say run a return line as well...just my .02 __________________ 50 Trim DSP Stock Head/Built Bottom Full bolt ons

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10-15-2009, 03:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
Orange ski SRTforums Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Member Number: 70601 Location: Wentzville Posts: 117	wouldnt that give me to much fuel? __________________

10-16-2009, 03:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
Adionik SRTforums Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Member Number: 51197 Location: San Antonio Posts: 18,021	Nah, my return line is installed and it acts exactly like the stock one. You can just set the fuel pressure to 58psi and not hook up the rising rate. So your fuel pressure WON'T rise with every 1lb of boost. Kind of defeats the purpose, but I didn't need the extra fuel and couldn't pass up the deal. I believe Nacho did a straight E85 build on stock turbo, using 1000CC injectors or something. Either way, 31xhp is about where it's going to end with stock turbo. You'd need to upgrade to an E1/SST/Shocker/Upgraded Stocker to see HP gains past that. __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by JPG dude your life story makes ME contemplate suicide... plz go get some pu$$y for christs sake! Quote: Originally Posted by Bthomp21 hahahah at thinking powdercoated parts are rice but cutting out crosshairs where it looks like a cat fish is not.

10-16-2009, 11:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
ST3PH3N'S SRT-4 SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Member Number: 57024 Location: San Antonio, Tx Posts: 4,373	agree with adionik, and its ALWAYS good to have extra fuel with e85 __________________ Stop messing around with vendors who dont care, Shop PTP and be treated like family. To make a purchase please go to www.pt-performance.com Shop hours are 9am to 7pm Monday-Saturday Shop number 253-277-3843, Shop cell 253-653-3843

10-17-2009, 01:24 AM	#9 (permalink)
nutz SRTforums Member Join Date: May 2006 Member Number: 41700 Location: IB, Ca. Posts: 11,344	I want E-85 sooo bad but san diego has like 1 place and it outa the way E-85 > race fuel $$$$$$$ __________________ JDP Dynomite Quote: Originally Posted by CRZYCUBAN2 Theyre not old. Just seasoned.

10-17-2009, 06:44 AM	#10 (permalink)
NachO_SRT Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Mar 2004 Member Number: 8662 Location: O.P. Kansas Posts: 2,864	More Information on switching your SRT-4 to E85 TADA! I did use Injector Dynamics 1000CC's NO RETURN and a 255 with a pimp ass rewire done by Modified By KC (www.mkcperformance.com). I tuned with an AEM EMS. I did nothing to the intake or exhaust excepting an AGP DFIC, AGP 3 inch CAI and AGP Hardpipes with the HKS SSQV. That was the extent of my bolt ons for the intake. I have an MPx 3" TBE Single exit, and used the MPx 3" O2 housing, both are top quality parts. With this set-up @ 30ish PSI I was spiking 308/397. With port work a Throttle body, and some cam gears I could have seen 320-330 tops. More likely 315-320. With 420-440 Ftlbs. On the above set-up I had no issues maintaing top of my run group staus at the road course. I picked up so much off the corners, but had to manage RPM range very tightly. E85 around here is 1.71/gal to 2.31/gal within a 75 mile radius of my home. I have access to 4 E85 stations within 20 mins of my home. 15 or so within 75 miles. I was using Sunoco 110 - @ 8.51/Gal Available 2 places within 75 miles. yeah, no brainer for my switch. I went a little wild with my set-up and took lots of pics. MKC Presents NachO_SRT Oh yeah, my new Daily driver is a sub page (2009 STi) I'm working on refitting the car for some Time Attack tries next year, looking to get at least some competitive track time under my belt. This winter: New Engine, New brakes, First SRT to use Pro-EFI?...We'll see. Anyhow, good luck on the E85 switch, and as with anyone on this site, if I can answer your question, I'll try, just drop me a PM. NachO __________________ DD -09 STi \| Track Car. 2004 E-blue; Mods and pics: CLICK S259@ 25psi:614/567 -6/10, E85 - Meanblueberry. Aug 2010 SRT of the Month

10-17-2009, 12:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
kkbsrt86 SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Member Number: 56748 Location: FL Posts: 1,663	How much is E85 running anyway? __________________ -2004 N. SRT-4: Garrett T04Z 67mm Redspeedfreak, DCR, Rage-tek, AGP, etc. -2000 Dodge Neon ES: Downgraded close to stock. SOLD 5/20/10. AKA lblackneon.

10-17-2009, 12:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
boots SRTforums Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Member Number: 67116 Location: Zanesville, OH Posts: 2,394	The closest station to me is 42mi's away, so I've been switching back and forth from E85 and 93. Whenever they finally bring a station closer I'll run it all the time. __________________ 2004 stage 2-AEM ems-DCR intake manifold-crane 16's(stock valve train)-DCR automatic setup-dss axles-boomba fuel rail-boomba mounts-boomba throttle body-3in side exit exhaust- spearco intercooler- Borg Warner S360RS and PFI/Kevin Warren tubular manifold setup Soon to come, my high compression build New turbo setup and transmission setup

10-17-2009, 01:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
Orange ski SRTforums Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Member Number: 70601 Location: Wentzville Posts: 117	well the good thing is I live like a mile away from a station __________________

10-17-2009, 02:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
Adionik SRTforums Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Member Number: 51197 Location: San Antonio Posts: 18,021	Quote: Originally Posted by lblackneon How much is E85 running anyway? On average about $.50 cents cheaper than 93 Right now it's $1.89 and 93 is $2.55 I'd like to run E85 but I don't think I have enough fuel for it. Stage 2 injectors with a 255 and return line. I could probably run a 50/50...but mehh... __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by JPG dude your life story makes ME contemplate suicide... plz go get some pu$$y for christs sake! Quote: Originally Posted by Bthomp21 hahahah at thinking powdercoated parts are rice but cutting out crosshairs where it looks like a cat fish is not.

10-17-2009, 06:55 PM	#15 (permalink)
19 psi SRTforums Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Member Number: 12457 Location: ISU Posts: 5,179	lol who said 400 on the stocker. thats a little optimistic maybe on 2.6 stroker and timing to hell, maybe then 400 on the stocker good thing about e85 is i just paid $18 to fill the tank!!!

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