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Old 06-25-2006, 08:47 PM   #166 (permalink)
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I've had this happen to me a few weeks ago...car stalled out and died and once i got it started again the fp was only at 10psi@ idle. I did use the fuel INJECTION line which has the plastic inner liner (Goodyear hose is what i used). The fuel inj. line was bubbled and deteriorated on the outside when it split. I replaced it w/a different brand of fuel injection line and we'll see what happens...I think SS braided line or the Aeroquip kevlar wrapped(very expensive) fuel line would be the right fix!
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Old 06-28-2006, 09:16 PM   #167 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by EDWEAZY2003
Well i did the bottleneck fix to my car and im styll having the same problems as before i have doubled checked all the lines and the pump i have been thru everything.When i get to about 4500 rpm it wont rise and leans out really bad.I cant possibly think wat else it is its really starting to get aggrevating. Does anybody have any idea on what it could be.Thanks Edwin

I have the same problem. Best I can figure the pump is running out of fuel somehow. I monitor FP on my e-01, and it rises nicely to 65 psi, then rapidly falls off at about 4000 rpm. All boost leaks are fixed, same problem exists.

I also had the fuel line rupture from the pump to the outside of the tank. When I replaced it, this problem popped up. I need to drop the tank again and see what's going on in the pump area. I have a fear the rubber seal from the bottom of the pump isn't sitting right. Perhaps that is leading to this problem.

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Old 09-14-2006, 07:07 AM   #168 (permalink)
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Has anyone metioned that the stock filter on the bottom of the canister [b]CANNOT[b]keep up with how much fuel you are pumping. If you have your return line going back to the canister this should not be a problem for you... But if you are like me and got an agp return line they said to put the return in the filler neck.

To test my therioy I took a 5 gallon bucked and filled it with gas (dont smoke when you do this) then, took the canister completly off so the pump was not in there, and submerged the canister (like when you were a kid playing in the bath tub with a lg cup) you will see that the stock fillter on the bottom of the canister will not allow it to fill fast enough to support the fuel flow increase.

The fix: removal of the fillter on the bottom of the canister. Now you will need to somehow (still have not done this yet) put a hose on the bottom of the pump and get it lower to the bottom of the tank, or at like 1/4 tank you will start running out of fuel.

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Old 09-15-2006, 01:40 AM   #169 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by tgspeedracer
Has anyone metioned that the stock filter on the bottom of the canister [b]CANNOT[b]keep up with how much fuel you are pumping. If you have your return line going back to the canister this should not be a problem for you... But if you are like me and got an agp return line they said to put the return in the filler neck.

To test my therioy I took a 5 gallon bucked and filled it with gas (dont smoke when you do this) then, took the canister completly off so the pump was not in there, and submerged the canister (like when you were a kid playing in the bath tub with a lg cup) you will see that the stock fillter on the bottom of the canister will not allow it to fill fast enough to support the fuel flow increase.

The fix: removal of the fillter on the bottom of the canister. Now you will need to somehow (still have not done this yet) put a hose on the bottom of the pump and get it lower to the bottom of the tank, or at like 1/4 tank you will start running out of fuel.

Let me know if this helped!


the stock filter on the bottom of the canister aka the sock is a OK up to around 580@ the wheels

using the supplied bottleneck fix
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Old 09-15-2006, 02:30 AM   #170 (permalink)
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i found that if i set the lowest rpm (1000) on lo to +- 0 there are no stumbles, the next % i pull @ 1800 is -11 the rest are -18%

i havnt thrown the too rich code yet.. i maay but even if i doo o well.. car drives well no stumbles

mb idle for some reason has to see everything.
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Old 10-01-2006, 06:56 PM   #171 (permalink)
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in trying to build this mod but i dont want to use the braided hose cus i dont like having the blingy hose leading into the engine bay. is there a way to use AN to barb fittings instead. and if so... which parts from your list do i NOT need to order and instead order AN to Barb fittings? thanks!
And would a 3/8th fuel rail input be enough for a 20G?


EDIT: Nevermind.... i figured it out by looking at the diagram... Any ways whats the point of the inline Fuel filter? does this mod bypass the stock fuel filter? And is 3/8ths hose the same as -6AN? I cant seem to find a -6AN (male) to -6AN Barbed...just -6AN to 3/8ths NPT^
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yes AN is measured at 1/16 so 6 AN is 6/16 or 3/8
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Old 10-01-2006, 07:39 PM   #173 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by kevinwarren240
yes AN is measured at 1/16 so 6 AN is 6/16 or 3/8


If -6 AN is 3/8ths then why do you use 5/16ths in the diagram to go from the pump to the push fitting?
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Old 10-01-2006, 09:36 PM   #174 (permalink)
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you don't have to use the SS braided line as Aeroquip has some very expensive Kevlar (black) braided line that is much stronger and lighter than the SS stuff...
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Old 10-07-2006, 07:42 AM   #175 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by ibnzmonkey
Quote: Originally Posted by kevinwarren240
yes AN is measured at 1/16 so 6 AN is 6/16 or 3/8


If -6 AN is 3/8ths then why do you use 5/16ths in the diagram to go from the pump to the push fitting?


bc the nipple on the pump is for a 5/16 rather than a 3/8's or a -6an like the push fitting. basically it's either you use a 3/8" hose and it fits very loosly over the nipple on the pump and leaks or you use 5/16" hose and it fits very very tight over the push fitting and fits perfectly over the nipple on the pump. getting the hose on the push fitting can be tricky. i've done a few bottleneck fixes and i found the best way to get the hose over the push fitting is to boil some water, submerge the end of the hose in the boiling water for 20-30 seconds. then take the hose right out of the water and push it onto the push fitting. the first time i did the bottleneck fix it took me about an hour to get the hose on the fitting all the way, but now after heating up the hose it only takes a minute or two.
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Old 10-12-2006, 01:00 PM   #176 (permalink)
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I picked up the
Stat-O-Seal, 9/ 16 in. I.D., Fit -6 AN, Aluminum with O-Ring, Pair
EAR-178009ERL $5.99

From http://www.pegasusautoracing.com

for $1.99 each & they only changed $0.90 to ship to Canada.
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Old 10-14-2006, 01:28 PM   #177 (permalink)
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So does this work in the same way the AGP does. R they pretty much doing the same thing. Or does this have another purpose. I was plannig on buying the AGP set up.
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Old 10-18-2006, 02:57 PM   #178 (permalink)
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someone please tell me the bottle neck fix, fixes the stumbles i have at low RPM!!! they make me really really angry!
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Old 10-18-2006, 03:01 PM   #179 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Splitz
someone please tell me the bottle neck fix, fixes the stumbles i have at low RPM!!! they make me really really angry!

It doesn't...
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Quote: Originally Posted by Splitz
someone please tell me the bottle neck fix, fixes the stumbles i have at low RPM!!! they make me really really angry!

It doesn't...

your fucking kidding me.

i'm still going to do it, but at this point i want to set my car on fire!
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