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Old 09-26-2007, 08:21 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Please expand on how DCX limits the voltage to the pump?
How are they controlling the voltage to the pump?

Does this kit bypass the ASD system?
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:18 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I would say it's prolly good for those who is not running a returnline. Otherwise if you have a returnline, this mod is prolly not needed.

Still needed no matter what. Return line or not the fuel pump will still like the additional voltage. It will only make the pump run that much better.

Hmm..

did anybody in your crew test out w/ a return line?
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will this work for a ptgt? like me?!
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Old 09-26-2007, 02:54 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Painless makes a fuel pump relay kit... Weather proof #30131 $43.99 Standard #50102 $29.99... I know these are universal vs yours. What makes your kit so special that you charge 90 bucks for it? Not trying to be an ass, but that's huge difference. I understand that yours is "plug and play"... With the painless kit you might have to do a little work.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mana4real
Painless makes a fuel pump relay kit... Weather proof #30131 $43.99 Standard #50102 $29.99... I know these are universal vs yours. What makes your kit so special that you charge 90 bucks for it? Not trying to be an ass, but that's huge difference. I understand that yours is "plug and play"... With the painless kit you might have to do a little work.

This is explained in the first post...
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Quote: Originally Posted by cali
Please expand on how DCX limits the voltage to the pump?
How are they controlling the voltage to the pump?

Does this kit bypass the ASD system?

hmmm.....
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:20 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mana4real
Painless makes a fuel pump relay kit... Weather proof #30131 $43.99 Standard #50102 $29.99... I know these are universal vs yours. What makes your kit so special that you charge 90 bucks for it? Not trying to be an ass, but that's huge difference. I understand that yours is "plug and play"... With the painless kit you might have to do a little work.

This is explained in the first post...

I don't think it's worth the extra money... That's way to much money. I read the first post.
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:43 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Please expand on how DCX limits the voltage to the pump?
How are they controlling the voltage to the pump?

Does this kit bypass the ASD system?

hmmm.....

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and double checking again - does it work for ptgts?
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Old 09-27-2007, 05:34 PM   #24 (permalink)
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no answer..huh...
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DCX doesn't limit it intentonally, but it gets limited because of the wire size and temperature involved in the engine bay, causing a drop in voltage above
4k rpms. Others have used the one in the how-to section adn it works great but if you want PNP then this is the shiznit!!!
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Quote: Originally Posted by cali
Please expand on how DCX limits the voltage to the pump?
How are they controlling the voltage to the pump?

Does this kit bypass the ASD system?

Yes it passes the ADS systems but it still uses the signal from the ADS to drive the relay. I do not feel that DCX limited the voltage intentionaly its just a by product of cheap wire and making use of what they had on hand. Its not controlled it just something that happens. If you don't believe me check it for yourself, 10.x volts at idle seems to be the common place for them and anything above 4800 and WOT you see an even greater drop in voltage.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Canuck_2k
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I would say it's prolly good for those who is not running a returnline. Otherwise if you have a returnline, this mod is prolly not needed.

Still needed no matter what. Return line or not the fuel pump will still like the additional voltage. It will only make the pump run that much better.

Hmm..

did anybody in your crew test out w/ a return line?

Our stage 3 SST tester did one with his set up. He very much said it was worth it.
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I will check...I never paid attn to these fuel pump threads...but I will look at a wiring diagram.

This wire has to be real small to produce such a V drop. You guys sure its not a 'current' issue due to poor grounds?
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Quote: Originally Posted by cali
I will check...I never paid attn to these fuel pump threads...but I will look at a wiring diagram.

This wire has to be real small to produce such a V drop. You guys sure its not a 'current' issue due to poor grounds?

16/18 gauge is what I have found.

Yes, we have installed grounding kits and they have done nothing to increase the voltage to the pump. The stock wire is over 12 feet long and makes 4 different connections before it even hit the main pump wire.
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I will check...I never paid attn to these fuel pump threads...but I will look at a wiring diagram.

This wire has to be real small to produce such a V drop. You guys sure its not a 'current' issue due to poor grounds?

16/18 gauge is what I have found.

Yes, we have installed grounding kits and they have done nothing to increase the voltage to the pump. The stock wire is over 12 feet long and makes 4 different connections before it even hit the main pump wire.


so will it work for ptgts?
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