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which fuel lines to use with e85

as some of you may know im having issues with my fuel lines breaking down. i would like some good debate on what worked for you guys and what the "smart ones" agree are the best.....
(as i know some of yall be running e85 way longer than me)
ive been on e85 off and on for 1 to 1.5 year(s) and on is solid for about a year with a few pump gas tanks every once in a while.. i got realtune returnline kit(not pointing any fingers at them i will pm them to see what kinda ss hose they use) this is what i used Summit Racing® Stainless Steel Hose SUM-230620Hose Material:Rubber, states that is rated for e85.


here are a few shots of my fuel system.....
(note i havent had a single issue fuel wise until now.... fuel lines are tapped with blk electrical tape.)








well.... i had some recent problems with my car and this is what i found. a piece of rubber blocking the flow of injector #1 did harm the injector to my knowledge. but did cause it not to flow as well.. then my fuel is doing this(see pic below)...... i run a Summit Racing® Aluminum Fuel Cells SUM-291210 i have a ethonal tester. and every test have been over e85 that i have tested . i havent checked the winter blend, but last winter it was e77 as we tested it at cobb tuning when my brother got tuned on E..... i dont not have any lines that are submerged in fuel. my pump is a boush 044.....
so after this year to year and a half this is what i got... this was not gradual, it was all of a sudden, since i can see in my tank i always looked at it before i fueled and NEVER seen this......



Left :
Brand new E85
Middle :
I drained the tank and blew out all the lines return and feed added 3 gallons in tank then after 20 mins of idle and 2 stepping some
Right :
How I found it in the tank! one of the reason my car ran horrible I guess.


im not looking to spend 300 dollars on a return and feed line which Racerxvsspeedracer just did, i want something what will last. i already have all the fitting for -6an fuel which i have plenty of fuel for my set up...

i do plan on going bigger one day, ill get a boomba rail with an -8an feed with twin 044 pumps....

so since plain rubber isnt a good option, what is??? PTFE?? or Nitrile rubber??

below i have listed a few other options.....

tunerlover said i should go with #2(not that im not taking his word), looks like a good option but i wanted to discuss with the rest of the forums also wanted yall to see my finding and see if any of you have come across this...

#1 Summit Racing® PTFE Hose SUM-220985
^^Hose Material:PTFE

#2 Summit Racing® Braided Nylon Hose SUM-240620B
^^Hose Material:Nitrile rubber

#3 Fragola Performance Systems Series 6000 P.T.F.E.-Lined Stainless Hose 602006
^^Hose Material:PTFE

I went with this

siliconeintakes.com PTFE braided SS lines

Which is the same as 1 and 3


What I think my issue was.

you know what ill just say what i think it is....

orginally i plastie dipped the out side of my tank, NO i didnt paint the inside.....


but i never had any problem till i peeled all the plastie dip off,,,, get my drift.

me and my son peeled it off, he's 8, i have samples of the fuel sitting in my garage and the black stuff falls to the bottom.

so im thinking some got in the tank, i thought i cleaned it out. but maybe a piece got stuck to the inside top wall of the tank.

that is the only thing that can explain the black of the fuel. on both set ups..

i really dont know. for lesson learned NO MORE PLASTIE DIP for me... reason i did plastie dip it was i didnt know if i wanted to keep it black... FYI e85 eats plastie dip....

so, we will see.. mistake costed... no use crying over it... i seen worse....

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I am using the Summit rubber hose. Black Nylon, not S/S.

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I am using the Summit rubber hose. Black Nylon, not S/S.
#2 on my list right????

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Yes
thanks, thats 2 knowledgeable people for #2

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Told ya man Its not hard to work with either. We used it on my buddies 1000+ HP supra. Good stuff to use.
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Told ya man Its not hard to work with either. We used it on my buddies 1000+ HP supra.
i didnt doubt you. i wanted to spread the word and get some ooohs and ahhhs


let people see whats up...

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Option 2. That's what my system uses and what we use on aircraft fuel tanks, hydraulics and any other seal that comes in contact with corrosives.

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Thanks guys!!!




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Good question, informative responses and appreciation from the OP. That's how the forums should work.

But dealing with schmucks like this guy makes the forums that much crappier!
Stopping on a dime?

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Well all of us aren't douche bags!!! LOL

I try to help as much as I can and to the best of my ability. Some times im a butt, but I try not to be!!!!

I also like to share my finding and mishaps and my successes and failures. So that the next guy don't have to fail like I did.



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Well all of us aren't douche bags!!! LOL

I try to help as much as I can and to the best of my ability. Some times its in my butt, but I try not to be!!!!


Exactly. I try to help, but sometimes people make it hard to give a rats behind.

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Look at the stuff from Siliconeintakes.com they make some nice like... This is what I have used on may friends car



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how do yall like my fuel setup....

ok
dumb
ghetto
good
need improvement


dont worry about hurting my feelings, im a big boy LOL

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Looks like complete shit!!!!!! Drive it off a cliff!!!!!!!


Is that a normal response?

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