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Old 10-10-2009, 10:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default DW 650's w/return line good for what hp?

I want to get to around ~440whp on my 50 trim. I was thinking maybe after the 430whp mark, I should upgrade to 750cc?

I read this somewhere but can't seem to have any luck. Thanks in advance.
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you just gonna let me out do you? im going 750s from the get go ... just do it! lol

sorry for no real imput lol
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On pure pump it will be a little Iffy... But for that HP amount Im guessing Meth or race gas?? If so you should be able to get there
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On pure pump it will be a little Iffy... But for that HP amount Im guessing Meth or race gas?? If so you should be able to get there

I'm not sure if I should go meth route. But most deff. be on race gas c12 or c16.

I'm in the process of installing my returnline, I just need to get my paycheck so I can get a tube of JB water weld

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I'd think with meth it would be possible
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I'd think with meth it would be possible

100% meth or mixed? Please also explain, I'm interested in knowing.

The main reason why I stay away from meth is because of the fact it may fail!!
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Well meth is essentially a 5th injector. So you will have lil more fuel depending on it's size.

Don't be scuuuuurrrrrred. Gotta pay to play. There is always risks. A fuel pump could always fail, or a regulator, or a vac source blow off, etc.
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I'm almost done with my 50 trim install but my car will never see meth.The car see's very little street time so other than driving to the track it drinks a steady diet of 110 race gas.

On top of that, I have a hard enough time tuning with what I have now!! If I throw meth in the mix it would just get harder. Hell if you are gonna spray something make it nitrous!!
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Well meth is essentially a 5th injector. So you will have lil more fuel depending on it's size.

Don't be scuuuuurrrrrred. Gotta pay to play. There is always risks. A fuel pump could always fail, or a regulator, or a vac source blow off, etc.

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I'm almost done with my 50 trim install but my car will never see meth.The car see's very little street time so other than driving to the track it drinks a steady diet of 110 race gas.

On top of that, I have a hard enough time tuning with what I have now!! If I throw meth in the mix it would just get harder. Hell if you are gonna spray something make it nitrous!!

You have a point adionik...but mth failure is more common>fuel pump,etc. isn't it?

Rhunter, if I will spray it with nitrous it will def be a direct port system. But I'm too much of a mangina..
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You have a point adionik...but mth failure is more common>fuel pump,etc. isn't it?

Rhunter, if I will spray it with nitrous it will def be a direct port system. But I'm too much of a mangina..

we all knew this..

anyways... dont be a "mangina" just run some meth..im sure youll be happy lol
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from what I have heard.. Most problems are not from pump failure but from failure to maintain the system but keeping it full. Honestly it is easy to detect when meth is not spraying.
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from what I have heard.. Most problems are not from pump failure but from failure to maintain the system but keeping it full. Honestly it is easy to detect when meth is not spraying.

and by the time meth isnt spraying, your motor is blown right?
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and by the time meth isnt spraying, your motor is blown right?

No its not.. Do you not look at your AFR gauge while going wot? If not you have other problems. its very easy to see when meth is not spraying. and you can let off right then and there. Hell I have done it a couple of times..but that was my own fault with not plugging the pump back up after testing it
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No its not.. Do you not look at your AFR gauge while going wot? If not you have other problems. its very easy to see when meth is not spraying. and you can let off right then and there. Hell I have done it a couple of times..but that was my own fault with not plugging the pump back up after testing it

I just thought that once you hit it, instant lean, then boom. I do look at my afr gauge btw
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