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Old 10-03-2009, 08:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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can I use this tool to remove the valve springs in order to install new valve seals without removing the head??

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The big question is whether it will fit. I ended up buying the Dodge-spec'ed special Miller Tool compressor for my old turbo Dodges, because I couldn't find another one that would fit in the space available. With the actual right tool it was "relatively" easy to change the seals on my '89 CSX without removing the head.

Make sure you have an air compressor and spark plug hole fitting to pressurize the cylinder while you do it. If you drop a valve, the head's almost certainly gonna have to come off. I used part of a compression tester and a couple of fittings to connect to the compressor.
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The big question is whether it will fit. I ended up buying the Dodge-spec'ed special Miller Tool compressor for my old turbo Dodges, because I couldn't find another one that would fit in the space available. With the actual right tool it was "relatively" easy to change the seals on my '89 CSX without removing the head.

Make sure you have an air compressor and spark plug hole fitting to pressurize the cylinder while you do it. If you drop a valve, the head's almost certainly gonna have to come off. I used part of a compression tester and a couple of fittings to connect to the compressor.

I got the air compressor & the fittings.....I just need to get the right valve spring compressor...also just to make sure I have to remove the timing belt & cams, right? or not really?
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I got the air compressor & the fittings.....I just need to get the right valve spring compressor...also just to make sure I have to remove the timing belt & cams, right? or not really?

I don't think you should have to, unless it's for clearance reasons or something. I didn't on the CSX, but of course, that's a different engine.
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I don't think you should have to, unless it's for clearance reasons or something. I didn't on the CSX, but of course, that's a different engine.

yeah....where did u bought that miller dodge spec tool from??
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can I use this tool to remove the valve springs in order to install new valve seals without removing the head??

Craftsman Valve Spring Compressor

No, you need the special adapter that allows you to get down on the retainer. I have seen people use a 1/2 deep socket with that tool, but getting the proper one from miller really makes the job go much easier.
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yeah....where did u bought that miller dodge spec tool from??

You can get them online or you can head down to your local dodge dealer with the part number and have them order it up. Talk with the parts department and just give them the part number.
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what about these 2??

Lisle VALVE SPRING COMPRESSOR

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yeah....where did u bought that miller dodge spec tool from??

The place I got it isn't in business now. This isn't the exact one I have, but it's the same design:
KD Tools 3087 Valve Spring Compressor

I think these are the pieces of the "proper" Miller tool, which ain't cheap:
Miller Tools 8215A Valve Spring Compressor
Miller Tools 8216A Valve Spring Compressor Adapter
Miller Tools 8215A-1 Valve Spring Compressor Bridge
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The place I got it isn't in business now. This isn't the exact one I have, but it's the same design:
KD Tools 3087 Valve Spring Compressor
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it kinda resemble the Lisle tool

Lisle VALVE SPRING COMPRESSOR & you're right about the miller tools being expensive
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it kinda resemble the Lisle tool

Lisle VALVE SPRING COMPRESSOR & you're right about the miller tools being expensive

Yeah, the one I have actually is a Miller, but it's designed like the KD Tools one. I think I paid $90-something for it several years ago. The biggest difference between the KD Tools one and the Lisle one is where they get leverage from. The Lisle looks like it hooks under a coil of the spring and takes two hands, while the KD Tools hooks under the cam and takes one hand.
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Yeah, the one I have actually is a Miller, but it's designed like the KD Tools one. I think I paid $90-something for it several years ago. The biggest difference between the KD Tools one and the Lisle one is where they get leverage from. The Lisle looks like it hooks under a coil of the spring and takes two hands, while the KD Tools hooks under the cam and takes one hand.

ok thanks......I'm gonna give the Lisle one a try since I found it for 21 bucks & I'm on a very tight budget
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Here is a link that mey work for you I try the other ones but none work because there is no space to work.
Schley Products SP 91400A Universal OHC Valve Spring Compressor | Engine, Trans., and Driveline Tools
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Here is a link that mey work for you I try the other ones but none work because there is no space to work.
Schley Products SP 91400A Universal OHC Valve Spring Compressor | Engine, Trans., and Driveline Tools

$106 is too deep for me but thanks anyway
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I forgot to mention, it's also a very good idea to use a magnet to grab the keepers while you have the spring compressed. Otherwise, it's really easy for them to fall into the head, possibly through an oil return passage into the pan. I used one of those telescoping magnetic retrievers.
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