Regrinds or real BC? - SRT Forums

ToMuchBoost · 05-25-2008, 08:59 PM

I bought a set of cams from a vendor here on the forums about four (4) months ago. They were sold to me as BC Stage 2 cams that were used for about 6,000 miles.

My build was on hold for the winter but I'll have almost everything soon and am tearing it apart next weekend. Anyway, I saw a thead here with someone talking about how they might have got regrinds sold to them as BC stage 2's from a vendor

.

Anyone have a set of stock cams or BC2 cams so I can verify what I have?

The part numbers the "BC stage 2" cams I bought: (not sure what side is EX or IN with them off the car)...

Cam 1: Has 2 part numbers on one end:
111563
679AA
Also has these in the casting (not on the ends)
ABX
674
0643
C
4

Cam 2: Has 2 part numbers on one end:
232084
681AB
Also has these in the casting (not on the ends)
ABX
676
2034
C
15

Let me know how these match up. I know the stock cams have the ABX and the 676 or 674 in the casting.

ToMuchBoost · 05-25-2008, 09:01 PM

Found this thread on reginds: cams regrinds

Post that stood out to me was this one:

Quote: Originally Posted by darrell cox

Because the SRT-4 cams are cast iron, regrinds on them will wear out over time due to the removal of the heat treat. Due to the reduction in the cams base circle (which is how they obtain increase in lift and dur.)(lobe height minus base circle = cam lift x rocker ratio = valve lift) they also ruin the rocker arm geometry and cause excessive valve tip wear. Been there done that. Even if you reheat treated them you could have bought good cams by then. After heat treat you would have to pay to get them straightened from the heat treating process which tends to bend cams from the heat that is applied.

Santiago. · 05-25-2008, 09:09 PM

definately sounds like a regrind my friend.

FBM bought a TON of stock cams a while back, and sent them to brian crower.

AFAIK, Brian crower HIMSELF did the regrinds since i guess him and FBM are "close"...if he didnt, he SHOULD be notified.

why do you think Josh can sell Brian Crowers for merely 180-225$ new, while everyone else has to sell at ~$300?

ToMuchBoost · 05-25-2008, 09:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Santiago.

definately sounds like a regrind my friend.

FBM bought a TON of stock cams a while back, and sent them to brian crower.

AFAIK, Brian crower HIMSELF did the regrinds since i guess him and FBM are "close"...if he didnt, he SHOULD be notified.

why do you think Josh can sell Brian Crowers for merely 180-225$ new, while everyone else has to sell at ~$300?

After reading DCR's post I would not trust them in my head if they are regrinds.....

Santiago. · 05-25-2008, 09:17 PM

to get a DIRECT answer...id call Brian Crower himself. like speak to him directly instead of his employees on the phone.

Read him the #'s on your cam and see if he has been doing them or if those are the part #'s on his actual cam, because i doubt you'll get a direct answer from the vendor...

ToMuchBoost · 05-25-2008, 09:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Santiago.

to get a DIRECT answer...id call Brian Crower himself. like speak to him directly instead of his employees on the phone.

Read him the #'s on your cam and see if he has been doing them or if those are the part #'s on his actual cam, because i doubt you'll get a direct answer from the vendor...

I was going to do this after the weeked. Be interesting to see what he says about regrinds being sold as new cams....

They even came in a BC red box.... but the part numbers listed on the BC website have are BC0161 and from my understanding BC cams have IN & EX stamped in them somewere and they should have BC in the part number on the ends...

**tcglass1** · 05-26-2008, 07:46 AM

my thought exactly... Mine are in a red box too but the stick on the end has been tore off...

nutz · 05-26-2008, 10:28 AM

counterfite cams?????
call customs thats a felony

05plsrt4 · 05-26-2008, 11:05 AM

I thought that my BC stage 3's came with the part number stamped/scratched on the end of the cams.

**tcglass1** · 05-26-2008, 01:50 PM

yeah mine did too, BC then the part number and IN and EX on them, but not the stage 2's I have that came from him

ToMuchBoost · 05-26-2008, 03:28 PM

I've been talking back and forth with the vendor. From what he is saying.. a few regrinds got shipped out on accident by an employee. I'm going to see if I can't send them back for a refund.

if Anyone has a set of BC 2's or stock cams sitting around can you check the part numbers on the end and post them up for me?

Santiago. · 05-26-2008, 08:59 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ToMuchBoost

I've been talking back and forth with the vendor. From what he is saying.. a few regrinds got shipped out on accident by an employee. I'm going to see if I can't send them back for a refund.

if Anyone has a set of BC 2's or stock cams sitting around can you check the part numbers on the end and post them up for me?

they were not sent out "by accident". he always makes excuses to cover his ass.

all last yr he bought up stock cams for 40-50$ and sent them off to BC to get reground. BC is not going to just have a bunch of stock cams laying around for no reason, and say 'hmm lets regrind these' and send them to only ONE vendor...

i will check my stock cam part #'s in a few hrs.

ToMuchBoost · 05-26-2008, 09:38 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Santiago.

they were not sent out "by accident". he always makes excuses to cover his ass.

all last yr he bought up stock cams for 40-50$ and sent them off to BC to get reground. BC is not going to just have a bunch of stock cams laying around for no reason, and say 'hmm lets regrind these' and send them to only ONE vendor...

i will check my stock cam part #'s in a few hrs.

Yep I agree 100% but even with the excuses I'll be happy if I end up with a refund and only out the time & shipping... At least they were not installed

Thanks for checking on the part #'s

Santiago. · 05-26-2008, 09:59 PM

i checked the castings of 1 of the cams...and saw ABX and 674.

i didnt bother checking any more #'s, because i knew that that was plenty enough evidence to show they were regrinds.

personally, you should call FBM for trying to sell regrinds as authentics.

thats like saying you have jordan shoes, but are really just knock-offs...

ToMuchBoost · 05-27-2008, 08:44 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Santiago.

i checked the castings of 1 of the cams...and saw ABX and 674.

i didnt bother checking any more #'s, because i knew that that was plenty enough evidence to show they were regrinds.

personally, you should call FBM for trying to sell regrinds as authentics.

thats like saying you have jordan shoes, but are really just knock-offs...

Ya man they are fake