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Old 10-26-2009, 11:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Clicking sound coming from motor :[ help!

Hi guys, first time posting on this site, I was hoping it would be submitting for ride of the month but technical Q's work too, so here goes...

I ran my 03 srt-4 through a flooded area in sacramento about 2 weeks ago in our first big storm, I hadn't had a chance to take off my mopar cold air intake and was not planning on driving the car in the rain, however my girlfriend had a family emergency and we ended up having to speed down the I-5, I came upon a sudden flooded section and hydro locked the motor (great) Anyways, I towed the car home got it up in the air and took out the spark plugs and turbo piping i must have pumped out close to a gallon of rain water, drained the oil changed it, got everything put back together and started it.

upon startup i have a noticeable clicking noise, i put a screwdriver to the valve cover and can clearl hear ticking from the number one cylinder side, i pulled the valve cover and covered up the surrounding area with rags, disconnected fuel and ign (just cautious) and turned the motor over, all rocker arms still function up and down etc, so my pops thinks that we need to bleed the lifters, he's old school as hell and i don't even know if or how our lash adjusting lifters CAN be bled, i've scowered the web and this site looking for answers but havent found anything about bleeding em'.

anyways im sure this isnt a very common problem because people who would do something as stupid as i did are shamed by asking questions or just dont do what i did. lol

I come to you guys humbled...
thanks!
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EDIT: car runs and drives, wont get past 6psi at WOT...and what am i doing at WOT? well hell just mobbin around like 21 yr olds do...stupidly :] dont judge!...ok judge...but not too much...ok too much.

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Old 10-27-2009, 12:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Do a Compression test on engine for the boost problem. It can be the lifters. Is it a loud noise? I used Valvoline Syntec one time and it made my lifters tick.
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Hmm already did a compression test 160 all the way around, oil was mobil one synthetic 5w-30 with mobil one filter.

More importantly how do i bleed these things?
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ok is the ticking noise constant? or is it when the motor is warmed up? can you hear the noise with out using a screwdriver to hear the noise?
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ok is the ticking noise constant? or is it when the motor is warmed up? can you hear the noise with out using a screwdriver to hear the noise?

its very loud, you can hear it from 15 feet away from the vehicle, its throughout the entire rpm band its noise is relative to rpm as well, the faster the motor revs the faster the ticking, ill try to take a video of it for youtube...

I am curious to know if anyone knows how to bleed the lifters??
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you know i have the same sound coming from my motor . i really think its a lifter too but not really sure . my clicking is not as loud as yours and the noise only happens between 2k to 4k . the motor only has 5k on it and i got it with 1k so i put 4k on it and its still sounds the same as the day i started it up . im running Valvoline Syntec 10-30 . i think im going to try to run a little thicker oil to see if it changes .

i hydro locked my motor just like you did and i got mine to run again too . mine didnt make any noise but the motor only lasted 30k after that and it threw a rod like i was making 600hp , damage was pretty crazy . the rod and the piston is in 3 pieces . i think i my have bent a rod or cracked a piston when i hydro locked it . how many RPM's were you turning when it happened ?
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its very loud, you can hear it from 15 feet away from the vehicle, its throughout the entire rpm band its noise is relative to rpm as well, the faster the motor revs the faster the ticking, ill try to take a video of it for youtube...

I am curious to know if anyone knows how to bleed the lifters??

blleeding lifters i don't think we can. we have solid lifters. although you can't rule out that option,but you would have to tear the motor down to really look at the lifters.(removing the cams rocker/rollers and inspecting the lifters for any damage.

now i know ticking noises can be from timing belt tensioners starting to go out. it will tick more when the car is warm. i cannot hear it when my car is driving becasue of the exhaust and road noise.

now where i want to put my money is here
if you hear a loud ticking noise coming from the motor and it increases with rpm's im guessing it could be a rod bearing going out. i thew a eagle H-beam rod through my block a year ago. the ticking noise was very audible and got louder as the rpm's went up. i knew the motor was toast when i looked at my oil pressure gauge and my oil pressure dropped to just about zero when i put the car in neutral BAM! goes the the rod.

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our valve train isnt adjustable, no lash. as far as there being a tapping sound you would need to #1) pull the valve cover and do a visual inspection make sure a rocker didnt pop off or spring didnt break, if your compression is 160 you may have got lucky

if the ticking (or better yet knocking) is proportunate to the RPM you probibly need some rod bearings, your best bet would be to take it to a competant trust worthy mechanic to give it a once over
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see that is where i am putting my money on is a rod bearing. your right nutz it could be a fubar spring lifter/roller he just has to tear it down and look at it.
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see that is where i am putting my money on is a rod bearing. your right nutz it could be a fubar spring lifter/roller he just has to tear it down and look at it.

i guess i forgot to mention it but i did take the valve cover off everything operating fine no visible valvetrain problems...remember this happened after a hydrolock..

EDIT: yeah if you read well anymore than a quarter of what i wrote to start this thread you'll see i took those things apart....no one seems to be hitting the nail on the head...im asking about the lifters....im pretty sure its not a rod bearing... :\

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we have solid lifters they cannot be bled.

just letting you know the ticking noises that i have heard like that was a rod bearing issue.
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we have solid lifters they cannot be bled.

just letting you know the ticking noises that i have heard like that was a rod bearing issue.


hmm...well guess oil pan shall come off next ill keep ya posted thanks man!
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we have solid lifters they cannot be bled.

just letting you know the ticking noises that i have heard like that was a rod bearing issue.

your wrong my friend , i bled one down myself .. i used a vise to bleed mine down . i thought they were solid lifters too till i tried it .
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well either or bleeding all the lifters or tearing down the oil pan to check rods is not going to be a easy task.

well somethings i did not know about our cars until i got the balls to try it.. im glad you can bleed them down now. thats new to me!
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well either or bleeding all the lifters or tearing down the oil pan to check rods is not going to be a easy task.

well somethings i did not know about our cars until i got the balls to try it.. im glad you can bleed them down now. thats new to me!

i didnt want to step out of line and say you were wrong because believe me man ive searched for hours since this has happened on the subject and people just really dont talk about our lifters online, they talk about swapping pt cruiser lifters...which from what ive read need washers to space them etc...
they do sell solid lifter conversions for our car though..theyre pricey and from what ive heard you have to keep adjusting them...a hassle...

i appreciate the help guys...uhm to answer some questions i missed, the sound doesnt change from cold to operating temperature, its not loud enough a sound to overpower my exhaust on the freeway so it sounds like its gone but the second theres no road noise its definately there...

i was going....2600rpm when it happened. hehe
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