Information Updated. If you guys have anymore good information that you would like me to provide in the sticky just let me know. Tex, I am still researching more information.
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for long term use, or to see higher rpm's it is sugested to run the valve springs. but for what my car is going to see, the factory pieces are just fine! if you can swing the pricing, it never hurts to have better parts in the motor. im waiting to go through my head before replacing the valve springs, but they will come in time
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Thanks for the info and the effort. I have put about 1k miles on my s3 w/ top end performance port and valve, modern honed intake and crane 16s. I have gotten a few comments about the loping. It seems really cool, and now I know it is going to happen with this set-up. It is a daily driver and is not hard to drive. With the engine mounts and the ac on, it will shake loose change in the change holder. I could not tell you the hp and torque numbers, and it has not been on any track yet. But now that I know the loping is normal, I am a step closer to getting it on the track, and maybe even the dyno just for fun. Thanks again!
for long term use, or to see higher rpm's it is sugested to run the valve springs. but for what my car is going to see, the factory pieces are just fine! if you can swing the pricing, it never hurts to have better parts in the motor. im waiting to go through my head before replacing the valve springs, but they will come in time
Hey Tex, Did you get more snap crackle and pops after you installed the cams? or was It minamized.
which cams should i get? i'm thinking of some for the mid range, would 14's be the best route for my 3147 and 8.8.1 pistons? i want a little more low end. whats a good time to call you at the shop to discuss this?
which cams should i get? i'm thinking of some for the mid range, would 14's be the best route for my 3147 and 8.8.1 pistons? i want a little more low end. whats a good time to call you at the shop to discuss this?
why do u want more loww end just curious? some of these cams will help you get more power up top or help let you get power with a higher redline.. i know more about NA cams tho for hondas since i did regrinds on my old b20vtec but the cams if set to the right advance/retard settings help alot.. read all the info bro theres all the answers right there.. u take ur car to the track yet?
OH AND HERES THE SECTION WHICH APPLIES TO YOUR QUESTION
A stage III/50 trim isn’t enough power for you. You want HUGE power, so you’re running a monster snail. Because of this big turbo, the lag is unbearable, not spooling till 3500rpm or even higher. You need something that is going to spool that big turbo, or your going to go grey before you make boost. You are going to need the crane 193-0014 split pattern cams. The design on these cams allows for a rapid spool on big turbo's. By designing the exhaust smaller than the intake, you increase the velocity of the exhaust gasses leaving the motor. This accelerated exhaust flow helps spool quickly. The down side to this setup is that its not designed for high rpm power. As many people have realized, this cam will give a lot of torque down low, but tends to die off as the rpm’s climb. This is due to the exhaust cam becoming inefficient. Other modifications aren’t going to make that huge of a difference with this cam, because it’s designed to spool a big turbo, not really to make power on its own. The only time I recommend these cams is when you really need to spool faster. These camshafts will make a bit of noise, if you don’t clock it with cam gears, the idle will be quite rough, once clocked for maximum power, it will be noticeable but not erratic. You don’t need to worry about valve springs with this camshaft.
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which cams should i get? i'm thinking of some for the mid range, would 14's be the best route for my 3147 and 8.8.1 pistons? i want a little more low end. whats a good time to call you at the shop to discuss this?
why do u want more loww end just curious? some of these cams will help you get more power up top or help let you get power with a higher redline.. i know more about NA cams tho for hondas since i did regrinds on my old b20vtec but the cams if set to the right advance/retard settings help alot.. read all the info bro theres all the answers right there.. u take ur car to the track yet?
OH AND HERES THE SECTION WHICH APPLIES TO YOUR QUESTION
A stage III/50 trim isn’t enough power for you. You want HUGE power, so you’re running a monster snail. Because of this big turbo, the lag is unbearable, not spooling till 3500rpm or even higher. You need something that is going to spool that big turbo, or your going to go grey before you make boost. You are going to need the crane 193-0014 split pattern cams. The design on these cams allows for a rapid spool on big turbo's. By designing the exhaust smaller than the intake, you increase the velocity of the exhaust gasses leaving the motor. This accelerated exhaust flow helps spool quickly. The down side to this setup is that its not designed for high rpm power. As many people have realized, this cam will give a lot of torque down low, but tends to die off as the rpm’s climb. This is due to the exhaust cam becoming inefficient. Other modifications aren’t going to make that huge of a difference with this cam, because it’s designed to spool a big turbo, not really to make power on its own. The only time I recommend these cams is when you really need to spool faster. These camshafts will make a bit of noise, if you don’t clock it with cam gears, the idle will be quite rough, once clocked for maximum power, it will be noticeable but not erratic. You don’t need to worry about valve springs with this camshaft.
yeah i already read that, i just heard 14's were not great for our car. this car won't be going to the track to the end of the semester.
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