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Old 06-23-2008, 09:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default To chop springs or buy eibachs?

Ok here's the deal, I like the way the car handles now but I don't like the wheel gap. Performance being paramount over looks I thinking of keeping the stock springs (they are real stiff) and chop a half inch off the front and one inch off the back. I don't want to go too drastic as I don't want to drive with my eye out for all road imperfections, but I do want to keep the performance I have now while getting rid of some of the wheel gap. Would cutting my springs be a good way to go or would just buying the eibach springs be better? Only thing I have against the eibachs is from what I've seen I think the drop would be enough that I would have to watch out for all road imperfections.
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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neither... heat up the springs until you achieve the height you want
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Don't cut them or heat them up.....buy the springs
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I still say heat them up ... they'll ride better than stock when you're done with them
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neither... heat up the springs until you achieve the height you want



Though, if you heat them, and don't tell the dealership, they probably wont void your warranty....
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Performance being paramount over looks

This just answered your question about heating the coils—don't.

I have the Eibachs with the thinnest spring pads in both the front and rear and the only thing that I have to watch out for are speed bumps or humps. I have dragged the exhaust a little when I go over the larger ones too carelessly.

I will tell you that I feel the car doesn't handle as well as it did stock though. I think it has to do with the way the sway bars are affected when the car is lowered. Brandon from Code 3 talked to me about this. He makes adjustable end links for the W203 chassis. Since our cars utilize a totally different mount there isn't one being made.
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I did some searching yesturday on the crossfire forum and from what I've read eibachs are not as stiff as the stocks (srt6). They are more for looks and comfort. That's what I suspected from the beginning that's why I was trying to use the stock springs. I guess untill code3 or somebody makes adjustable end links for our car I will just deal with it. Its not really high on my priority list so no biggy.

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Quote: Originally Posted by bluemdsrt6 View Post
I did some searching yesturday on the crossfire forum and from what I've read eibachs are not as stiff as the stocks (srt6).

Mine is actually quite a bit stiffer than stock. I am using the OEM shocks too.
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Mine is actually quite a bit stiffer than stock. I am using the OEM shocks too.

From the threads that I read they all seemed to say that the spring rate of the eibachs were stiffer than the NA but not as stiff as the srt6. I guess I will have to reasearch the spring rates on each. Since your car is dropped 1+ inch it might seem like there stiffer because of less spring travel and better center of gravity but that doesn't necessarily mean the springs have a stiffer spring rate. Do you have numbers or are you basing this off how the car feels after switching?
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I've seen springs both cut and heated a thousand times with no problems, just make sure whoever does the job has experience or they can ruin your springs, And get a four wheel alignment afterwards too.
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From the threads that I read they all seemed to say that the spring rate of the eibachs were stiffer than the NA but not as stiff as the srt6. I guess I will have to reasearch the spring rates on each. Since your car is dropped 1+ inch it might seem like there stiffer because of less spring travel and better center of gravity but that doesn't necessarily mean the springs have a stiffer spring rate. Do you have numbers or are you basing this off how the car feels after switching?

No numbers. The front springs are a linear rate whereas the rears are progressive, just an FYI.
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So "heating up" springs...I've actually never heard of this...where would be more information on this?
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Unless your car is a civic and you've somehow stumbled onto the wrong board....do not chop or heat your springs. The few hundred you spend on replacements will be well worth it.

If it IS a civic, by all means, chop away.
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So "heating up" springs...I've actually never heard of this...where would be more information on this?


don't do it ...

I was being VERY SARCASTIC when I said to heat the springs ... heating & cutting springs FTL

although, if you really want to... back the car up to a curb that you want your bumper to sit at when it's lowered ... then have a few people sit in the car while you take a torch to the springs ... heat up one side til it the bumper touches the curb and then repeat on the other side

again, don't do it ... you'll regret it
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